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Tier 5 Ship Comparison Spreadsheet

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  • ooiueooiue Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    smokeybacon90 wrote: »
    Some corrections concerning the Fleet Assault Cruiser:

    1) Actual Boff layout is
    Cmdr Eng
    LtCmdr Tac
    Lt Eng (not Lt Tac)
    Lt Uni
    Ens Tac (not Ens Eng)

    2) Cost is 4 fleet modules (1 with discount), not 5

    3) Power boost is +10 weapons, +5 to others. Not +5 to all.

    4) It is actually named the Fleet Assault Cruiser Refit, signifying the fact that the Assault Cruiser Refit (Regent) provides the module discount.

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    Correction concerning Fleet Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit:

    Cost is 5 fleet modules (1 with discount), not 4

    Cheers! Looks like I didn't update it after the blog first came out with the wrong results! xD

    I've also clarified that any normal ship with a special console can be used on any existing counterpart of that ship (eg. Ablative Armour on the Fleet Intrepid)
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    ooiue wrote: »
    I've also clarified that any normal ship with a special console can be used on any existing counterpart of that ship (eg. Ablative Armour on the Fleet Intrepid)

    Hmm, may cause slight confusion between Special Consoles or Weapons that are ship-restricted (e.g. Ablative Armour) and those which are not restricted (e.g. Wide Angle Quantum). Perhaps distinguish between these two categories with formatting?
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  • ooiueooiue Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    smokeybacon90 wrote: »
    Hmm, may cause slight confusion between Special Consoles or Weapons that are ship-restricted (e.g. Ablative Armour) and those which are not restricted (e.g. Wide Angle Quantum). Perhaps distinguish between these two categories with formatting?

    Good suggestion, I'll plant italics on the ship it can be used on (eg. Fleet Intrepid can use Ablative Armour but it doesn't come with it) and leave the normal ones in standard format.

    The Advanced Heavy Cruiser Retrofit Special is actually the transwarp ability to warp to any sector, not the console, but I'll add the console to the Retrofit, not the fleet one (like I did with the Assault Cruiser Refit listing the 180 Quantum Torpedo, but didn't put it on the Fleet version).

    Thanks :)
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  • ooiueooiue Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Updated the Spreadsheet with the following changes:-

    • Updated the following ship stats
      • Battlecruiser Retrofit
        • Renamed to Kamarag Battlecruiser Retrofit
    • Added stats to the following ships:-
      • Support Cruiser Retrofit
      • Kamarag Battlecruiser Retrofit

    Also updated the "Ship Comparison Tab" with this ship, to compare the Support Cruiser Retrofit with the Exploration Cruiser Retrofit, Assault Cruiser Refit and Odyssey Star Cruiser.

    I have also compared the Kamarag Battlecruiser Retrofit with the K't'inga Battlecruiser Retrofit, Vor'cha Battlecruiser Retrofit and Negh'var Heavy Battle Cruiser.
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  • evilito8evilito8 Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    bumperthumper wrote: »
    I'm showing the inertia rating on my D'Kora at 40. Also, the bonus power levels for it depend on if it's in Battle Mode, or Defensive Mode. I don't really know how you want to handle that last one.

    This is also true for the Vet ships. When the console is activated there is a shift in stats and power. +5 to Weapons and +30 to Targeting (accuracy).

    I also think there is an innate +10 to weapons with this ship but can't confirm it, just eyeballing my power levels puts me over 125 when set to 95 and only 3 in weapons performance and using the borg console.
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  • ooiueooiue Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    evilito8 wrote: »
    This is also true for the Vet ships. When the console is activated there is a shift in stats and power. +5 to Weapons and +30 to Targeting (accuracy).

    I also think there is an innate +10 to weapons with this ship but can't confirm it, just eyeballing my power levels puts me over 125 when set to 95 and only 3 in weapons performance and using the borg console.

    I chose to use the innate power bonuses that the dev blog specified, but if it changes, then it doesn't matter then :D
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  • ooiueooiue Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Updated the Spreadsheet with the following changes:-

    • Updated the listing order of all ships across all tabs
    • Updated the following ship stats
      • Fleet B'rel Bird-of-Prey Retrofit
        • Renamed to B'rel Fleet Bird-of-Prey Retrofit
    • Added the following ships to the following tabs:-
      • Fleet Support Cruiser Retrofit
        • Fed Ships
        • Comparison
        • Cruisers
      • Fleet Kamarag Battlecruiser Retrofit
        • KDF Ships
        • Comparison
        • Cruisers

    I apologise for any incovenience I caused anyone during the reordering of the spreadsheet :)
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  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,550 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    ooiue wrote: »
    Updated the Spreadsheet with the following changes:-

    • Updated the following ship stats
      • Battlecruiser Retrofit
        • Renamed to Kamarag Battlecruiser Retrofit
    • Added stats to the following ships:-
      • Support Cruiser Retrofit
      • Kamarag Battlecruiser Retrofit

    Also updated the "Ship Comparison Tab" with this ship, to compare the Support Cruiser Retrofit with the Exploration Cruiser Retrofit, Assault Cruiser Refit and Odyssey Star Cruiser.

    I have also compared the Kamarag Battlecruiser Retrofit with the K't'inga Battlecruiser Retrofit, Vor'cha Battlecruiser Retrofit and Negh'var Heavy Battle Cruiser.

    Are you going to add the Yamaguchi and K'Maj to your spreadsheet?
  • ooiueooiue Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    indyshark wrote: »
    Are you going to add the Yamaguchi and K'Maj to your spreadsheet?

    Check my previous post :)
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  • cmdrskyfallercmdrskyfaller Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Look at the T5 Nebula and D'Kyr. They're GARBAGE boats compared to the crappiest lockbox ships.


    Cryptic needs to seriously improve their fleet versions and fix the cstore version consoles...or change them into something that is actually useful.
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  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,550 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    ooiue wrote: »
    Check my previous post :)

    Are they on their under a different name?
  • dma1986dma1986 Member Posts: 541 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    indyshark wrote: »
    Are they on their under a different name?

    Yamaguchi is the Fleet Support Cruiser Retrofit, row 13.
    Fleet Kamarag is row 25 on the KDF sheet, row 83 on the Comparison one.
  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,550 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Thanks! that helps a lot
  • bumperthumperbumperthumper Member Posts: 513 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    I have my Breen Chel Grett showing an inertia rate of 50, rather than 40.

    Thanks again for your work!
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  • ooiueooiue Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Updated the Spreadsheet with the Following Changes:-

    • Updated the following ship stats
      • Aquarius Destroyer
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.66 to 0.85
      • Fleet Aquarius Destroyer
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.72 to 0.94
      • K't'inga Battle Cruiser Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.85 to 1.0
      • Fleet K't'inga Battle Cruiser Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.94 to 1.1
      • Heavy Cruiser Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.85 to 1.0
      • Fleet Heavy Cruiser Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.94 to 1.1
      • Escort Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.7 to 0.9
      • Fleet Escort Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.77 to 0.99
      • Scourge Destroyer Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.83 to 0.9
      • Fleet Scourge Destroyer Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.92 to 0.99
      • Fleet Norgh Bird-of-Prey Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.66 to 0.88
      • Somraw Raptor Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.65 to 0.83
      • Fleet Somraw Raptor Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 0.71 to 0.92
      • Science Vessel Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 1.01 to 1.3
      • Fleet Science Vessel Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 1.11 to 1.43
      • Research Science Vessel Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 1.1 to 1.3
      • Fleet Research Science Vessel Retrofit
        • Shield Modifier updated from 1.22 to 1.43
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  • ooiueooiue Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Updated the Spreadsheet with the Following Changes:-

    • Updated the following ship stats
      • Fleet Norgh Bird-of-Prey Retrofit
        • Base Hull updated from 16,500 to 24,750
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  • ooiueooiue Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Updated the Spreadsheet with the following changes:-
    • Added the following ships to the following tabs:-
      • Andorian Kumari
        • Fed Ships
        • Comparison
        • Escorts
      • Andorian Charal
        • Fed Ships
        • Comparison
        • Escorts
      • Andorian Khyzon
        • Fed Ships
        • Comparison
        • Escorts

    Also updated the Ship Comparisons tab to include these three ship varients alongside the Jem'Hadar Attack Ship, Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier, Fleet Heavy Escort Carrier, Mobius Temporal Destroyer and the Fleet Tactical Escort Retrofit.
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  • badname834854badname834854 Member Posts: 1,186 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    The "Marauder Patrol Cruiser" is now called the "Marauder Flight Deck Cruiser" iirc. It also has a crew of 2000, not 1200.

    -ABM
  • ooiueooiue Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    badname834854 wrote: »
    The "Marauder Patrol Cruiser" is now called the "Marauder Flight Deck Cruiser" iirc. It also has a crew of 2000, not 1200.

    -ABM

    Cheers! :)
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  • o1derfull1o1derfull1 Member Posts: 294
    edited May 2013
    Brilliantly done, and much appreciated This is exactly what I was looking for, and I couldn't find it elsewhere. Your efforts have my gratitude!
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  • dirozzodirozzo Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Hi Ooiue,

    First of all great, spreadsheet. This certainly is a great start to getting a Starship comparison database up and running. Thank you for the creation and maintentance of the sheet.

    I have a MVAM Advanced Escort - Prometheus Class - crew size should read 150 not 200.

    Thanks - DiRozzo
  • rextalon1rextalon1 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    It seems they nerfed the Fleet Patrol Escort Refit. Instead of a 1.045 Shield Modifier, it now has a .99. At least that's what it says in my fleet ship requisition.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    rextalon1 wrote: »
    It seems they nerfed the Fleet Patrol Escort Refit. Instead of a 1.045 Shield Modifier, it now has a .99. At least that's what it says in my fleet ship requisition.

    You do know you just raised up a post from a year and a half ago? Things might have changed. :rolleyes:
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  • seannewboyseannewboy Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    I would like to see the flight deck carriers added as a seperate part of the carrier tab.
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  • coolheadalcoolheadal Member Posts: 1,253 Arc User
    edited July 2014
    Don't forget the Risa 2x Ships, too add to your list.

    I like list that this, so you can see how the ships compare. Note for you if you can shade each color entry so one can stand out from each entry. That's what I use to do for Cisco Catalyst Network Switches on GOV Campus Farm which had over 5,000 of them. STO with star ships might peak there soon!

    Thanks for your spreadsheet and your time effort putting this all together for us all!
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