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paarethpaareth Member Posts: 91 Arc User
All those ships we barely got to play as we leveled so fast.

Why not bring them back as updated variants at higher levels?

1, Gives variety and choice.
2, Lets people play as ships they saw in the series/films
3, Is a relatively easy way for PW to make money (some cash/some not)
4, Sticks more to lore as opposed to fantasy ships.

Any questions see this:

Profit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO5sxLapAts

More seriously this seems a really simple way to bring more ships into the higher levels. More choice, with balance = a good thing. Pay for some, not pay for others, all it takes is tweaking a few numbers.

At present most cash shop ships are not worth buying as we level so fast, until the higher tiers.
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    They already did. They are called fleet ships. There is the Retrofit version which is just the ship updated to Tier 5 stats and the Fleet Retrofit version which has better stats. Some ships are missing like the TOS Constitution and other Tier 1 ships. You need to join a fleet to get these ships and the Fleet Retrofits you have to buy a C-Store item to purchase them.
  • paarethpaareth Member Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    starkaos wrote: »
    They already did. They are called fleet ships. There is the Retrofit version which is just the ship updated to Tier 5 stats and the Fleet Retrofit version which has better stats. Some ships are missing like the TOS Constitution and other Tier 1 ships. You need to join a fleet to get these ships and the Fleet Retrofits you have to buy a C-Store item to purchase them.

    Ah I see, I haven't joined a fleet on either my Starfleet or klingon character that is why. Many thanks. I haven't seen much in the c-store, and I was thinking if I spend 30 pounds that is it, I have everything, which seems a bit silly. 5 pounds for extras, 25 for the only ship I want out of the 5 or so on offer at the higher tier (outside of fleet).

    Just to clarify, I join a fleet, more c store options open up?
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  • damecdamec Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    paareth wrote: »

    Just to clarify, I join a fleet, more c store options open up?

    Yes, in a manner of speaking, there are 2 versions of each refit fleet ship from ships before tier 5, like nova, sabre etc, you can either pay 2000 c points plus 20,000 fleet credits ((20,000 is easy to get)) or 200,000 fleet credits for 9 console versions

    Edit: and ya, they are character bound, which can be a reason for concern
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The Fleet Retrofits usually require 4 Fleet Ship Modules ($20) and 20,000 Fleet Credits, but Fleet Ship Modules can be obtained on the exchange. Last time I checked it was 5 million Energy Credits per module. Retrofits only cost 200,000 Fleet Credits so you don't need to spend zen on them. Fleet Retrofits have 10% more hull, 10% more shields, and an extra console.
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    paareth wrote: »
    Ah I see, I haven't joined a fleet on either my Starfleet or klingon character that is why. Many thanks. I haven't seen much in the c-store, and I was thinking if I spend 30 pounds that is it, I have everything, which seems a bit silly. 5 pounds for extras, 25 for the only ship I want out of the 5 or so on offer at the higher tier (outside of fleet).

    Just to clarify, I join a fleet, more c store options open up?

    If you join a fleet that has a shipyard of the appropriate level and grants you purchase permission, you can then buy a Fleet Ship for that character (it isn't an account unlock). Retrofit ships cost 200k fleet credits, and slightly-better Fleet Retrofit ships cost 20k plus four Fleet Modules purchased from the Exchange or C-Store. Retrofits of T5 C-store ships that you otherwise already own cost 1 module, but all others (even ones you already own otherwise, but aren't T5 C-store) cost 4.

    So lets say you want a basic Retrofit version of the Nova. You join a fleet with a shipyard and donate enough stuff that they give you buying permission. You come up with 200,000 fleet credits, go to the teller, and pick out your ship. Now you have a Nova with T5ish stats for that character only.

    Alternately, same thing as above, but you want a Fleet Retrofit Nebula instead. You need a higher-level shipyard, and instead it costs you 20,000 fleet credits, plus the 4 Modules. However you already purchased the T5 C-Store version of the Nebula a few months ago. Because you own the T5 C-Store version already, it costs 20,000 credits and only 1 module instead.
  • damecdamec Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Just a quick curious question to the OP, which ship from lower levels did you have in mind for tier 5 use?
  • partsourcepartsource Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Or just do what I suggested in one of my posts for keeping old ships alive, while still having a benefit from fleet ships. http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=497821

    in summary from the post: warp engines, and computer cores as separate items, allowing power improvements and better gear to be used on old vessels. Right now, I can't even survive an easy fight with those, even though the bad guys are supposed to be the same.
  • ajstonerajstoner Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    You don't want to make every ship teir 5, that's what the fleet ships are fore and Cryptic does need to sell stuff to keep the game free to play. That said, allowing any given ship to be bumped up a single teir level for a large cost (or in place of the next free upgrade ship) would be very cool and not cause any troubles there.
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  • partsourcepartsource Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    That's not a bad idea, though "large cost" is everything this game seems to be about!! For Cryptic, designing all those beautiful ships only to be used for a fraction of the gaming time is a sorry loss. The only thing they're good for is everything but encounters nowadays.

    At the least, the difficulty for "engage enemy contact" events and for storyline missions should be adjusted to the ship you are flying. THAT would be more than appropriate. I certainly don't expect to use a constitution on STF's!
  • partsourcepartsource Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by allyoftheforce
    It has been asked for since day one. And ignored since day one. Cryptic either does not have the ability or does not care to implement it. I'm leaning on the latter. The best proposal I ever saw was what Suricata had put together long ago. I have a bad feeling that the revamp they're keeping under wraps that they want will be something everybody will hate. I won't speculate on it further than that.


    Yeah, ABSOLUTELY the right idea!! If the company is reading this: a change like that would convince me to forget free-to-play and sign up for subscription ON THE SPOT.

    It is the very narrow limitations of this game that prevent me from subscribing to begin with. I've only every bought a few zen to get some upgrades because "i couldn't take it any more".
  • jamesburtchelljamesburtchell Member Posts: 94 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    partsource wrote: »
    That's not a bad idea, though "large cost" is everything this game seems to be about!! For Cryptic, designing all those beautiful ships only to be used for a fraction of the gaming time is a sorry loss. The only thing they're good for is everything but encounters nowadays.

    At the least, the difficulty for "engage enemy contact" events and for storyline missions should be adjusted to the ship you are flying. THAT would be more than appropriate. I certainly don't expect to use a constitution on STF's!

    awww why not? i would love to use my NX in a stf :(. :D and the sad thing is i'm not playing lol
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  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    partsource wrote: »
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by allyoftheforce
    It has been asked for since day one. And ignored since day one. Cryptic either does not have the ability or does not care to implement it. I'm leaning on the latter. The best proposal I ever saw was what Suricata had put together long ago. I have a bad feeling that the revamp they're keeping under wraps that they want will be something everybody will hate. I won't speculate on it further than that.


    Yeah, ABSOLUTELY the right idea!! If the company is reading this: a change like that would convince me to forget free-to-play and sign up for subscription ON THE SPOT.

    It is the very narrow limitations of this game that prevent me from subscribing to begin with. I've only every bought a few zen to get some upgrades because "i couldn't take it any more".

    no, Cryptic can't do this cause CBS would not allow this.

    which is getting really funny, cause at least 30% of the ships currently flying around are not Canon.
  • corbinwolf#9797 corbinwolf Member Posts: 565 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Hi,

    For fun I equipped my TOS Constitution Class Starship with the four piece borg set, the borg beam cutter, the regent torp launcher and the retrofit phaser (blue) banks. I equipped the limited consoles with the best that I could find, particularly engineering for hull resistance. Looked pretty good considering.... (The Remen Shields in particular really make this ship pop)

    I dropped myself into a Mirror enemy contact zones to name but one type and managed to defeat the majority of patrols. I died only after getting ganged up on by several.... but still, considering the success I did have from it I would personally love to see Cryptic give us the opportunity to upgrade existing ships!!

    For instance, wouldn't it be great if you could buy additional Boff spots, weapon slots, sci slots, etc... and higher quality hull integrity for our existing ships? Imagine having your TRIBBLE handed to you in PVP by the TOS Enterprise! I mean, why not? Realistically speaking, even in the television series, ship captains make do with what they have. If the Borg can assimilate ships why cant we assimilate other ships to improve our own? I love the Enterprise A in particular and wish I could use it still.

    I also wish we could create our own ships and play them. This already exist in the game but it is limited to the type of ship you fly. Imagine if you can mix and match with ANY ship that you own. Sure, some would come out butt ugly, but there would always be the opportunity for creating something unique and beautiful. Food for thought.
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  • sumghaisumghai Member Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    For instance, wouldn't it be great if you could buy additional Boff spots, weapon slots, sci slots, etc...

    I would pay to add a Lt. Cmdr Tac power slot to my T3 Intrepid, should this come to pass.
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