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Are the antiproton ship weapons worth the cost?
kirscht
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Just wondering. I spent some credits on a set of tricobalt torps because I kept reading that they were pretty powerful, but was very disappointed. I hear the same about antiproton, but they're very pricey so I thought I'd see waht others thought of them.
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Honestly though, I'd rather have the debuff of disruptors (which boosts ALL damage, not just energy weapons fire), or the power drain of polarons, or even the 'thematic appropriateness' plus random FU ability of phasers. And some people absolutely swear by tetryon drain or the extra PVE damage of plasma. Between all of those options, paying a ton more for an extra 6-8% simple damage (at most, if you're max specced into it), it seems kinda silly.
As for whether they're worth the millions, it depends on what you've got right now and how (and what you play) how you play. If you only play PVE, simply having the base knowledge to not have a crappy power build and pull your weight in the missions, and a certain quality of gear (a Mk X set's worth in Normal STFs, Mk XI in Elite) and you'll usually do fine in a random group. At that point getting purple Mk XIIs with all the bells and whistles is just garnish.
It's a different story in PVP where obviously the player with better gear will win, all other things being equal. You may need to get spendy to optimize. But I don't PVP, so take that as you will.
Personally I find the costs kind of crazy, and I'd rather spend millions of EC on, say, a lockbox ship from the exchange rather than hyper-optimizing.
Certainly I'm willing to spend to have a not-crappy setup, but the gear you can gather just playing missions and maybe from the Reputation or Dilithium stores will carry you a good long way.
They worked great. I hear they have the same cannons, but with [crtd]x2 [crth]. If I still used Antiproton, I'd try and get those. Likewise if I used the Chroniton DBB.
I currently use phasers, specifically Phaser Dual Heavy Cannons MK XII [crtd]x3. Same critical severity as what I used to use, does more base damage (higher MK), and has the phaser proc. There are other energy types that have the same modifier (crtdx3).
If you have the same critical severity, you might as well get a weapon type that has a more useful proc.
You really can't compare the experience of the two. Tricobalts are likely the most miss-used weapon in the game. You need to be a very efficient pilot to deliver them on target, with a spread to maximize effectiveness. I have seen some pilots dish out AMAZING damage every 3-4 minutes. Great in some STF's - IMO practically useless everywhere else.
But hey, it's about what makes you happy.
Currently I still use anti-proton weapons on my fed tac Heavy Escort Carrier. In combination with the tactical consoles (Antiproton Mag Regulators, rare), they make for a very effective weapon set. The weapons are all fleet versions: 3x DHC + 2 turrets. This is backed up with fleet quantum torpedo and the new Kinetic Cutting Beam XII.
Overall, IMO it's the best for overall damage regardless of the opponent, the exception being disrupter's which I think of as a KDF weapon.
For my other characters I have tried everything under the sun. Polaron & Tetryons were great. Disrupter's are cool as well. Phased Tetryons were amazing for dropping shields, but in the end lacked the overall damage of anti-proton. And they were the least 'Federation' of all of the energy types.
With the launch of the Vesta class, my engineer and sci toons went all phaser primarily to max out all of the inherent bonuses with the ship' special features for federation players. I have not looked back - great weapons on the Vesta and I have misjudged phasers.
Antiproton are my favourites overall, with phasers now a close second for Federation.
If you're Klingon - stay Disrupters.
Admiral Thrax
These and disruptors are the main things to look at for pure damage. I would say disruptors for PVE and AP for PVP. The disruptor breach debuff is very powerful and can send your whole teams damage through the roof, but like any resistance debuff it applies to the hull and will most likely be wasted on a shielded target in PVP, while the enhanced crits from AP will break down shields just as well as hull.
Don't use multiple types of weapons. It drains power too quickly.
Now that cheap mk XII antiprotons are gone form the game I'd go with something else.
My Antiproton DHCs MK XI [crtd]x2 [dmg] has less DPS than my Phaser DHCs MK XII [crtd]x3. They also have the same critical severity (70%).
A dead still target I'd give DPS to the CritDx3 a moving target I'd say the old borg weapons would probably be higher.
Despite what a lot of people think, DHCs do not need ACC.
I did tests with a single DHC against one target. My passive accuracy is 25%. His passive defense is ~81%.
With me chasing after him and firing ~750 shots, my accuracy averaged out to ~80%.
Turrets, on the other hand, need the ACC buff if you want better odds at getting a proc.
Another fleet mate fired over 500 shots with a single MK XI [acc]x3 and [crth]x3. I have 80% defense. With the [acc]x3, he hit me 80% of the time and got a 1.5k DPS. With the [crth]x3, he hit me 60% of the time, but got a 1.6k DPS. We didn't test [crtd]x3, as it was more than what he was willing to spend. But, the results were pretty clear....ACC is great if you want a better chance of getting a proc. But, if you want higher damage, you'll want to stick with [crth] or [crtd].