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uskodetrauskodetra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
Tired of hunting for an item, but don't want to pay outragous prices on the exchange? Join the ingame channel, TheTradingChannel, to connect with like minded people to find and negotiate a price!

This channel was created to wheel and deal, negotiating prices, and finding bargains. want an item, but can't afford an EC pricetag via exchange? Check out TheTradingChannel to see if someone else will trade You what You want for something else.


A few basic rules:

1: Please try and stay on topic. Minor off-topic chat is normal.
2: No trolling. There is a 1 issued warning in effect against trolls, it is not tolerated.
3: No scamming. If someone states the wrong price, simply correct them, if it continues, this will be grounds of scamming.
4: No bashing.
5: No flaming.
6: Due the hazards and complexity of it, selling fleets is prohibited.
7: When selling doffs, please state which faction they are, as well as quality, traits, and abilities.
8: Please use WTB-Wanting to Buy WTS-Wanting to Sell WTT wanting to Trade
9: Please only link items if it's related to buying/selling/trading.
10: Please no trading Real World items, such as real money, and please abide by STO's EULA and TOS


The rules are subject to change, removal, or additions. If there are any questions or complaints, please send Me an ingame mail, and I will do My best address the issues.

Founder:
@Usko_Detra
Moderators:
@Jedinikon
@hevymtl4life
@stee1max

Want an item, but can't afford the EC price? Join TheTradingChannel, and see if You can wheel and deal! TheTradingChannel, for all Your trading needs http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=479391
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  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    uskodetra wrote: »
    Tired of hunting for an item, but don't want to pay outragous prices on the exchange? Join the ingame channel, TheTradingChannel, to connect with like minded people to find and negotiate a price!

    This channel was created to wheel and deal, negotiating prices, and finding bargains. want an item, but can't afford an EC pricetag via exchange? Check out TheTradingChannel to see if someone else will trade You what You want for something else.

    It would sure help avoid the "WTT TRIBBLE product for TRIBBLE product" in zone chat - though notthat zone chat makes any sense anymore.

    Zone chat are mainly used by trollers, griefers, and everything in between, hell it is now spilling over to local chat, lol.

    I might give your channel a try.
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  • olivia211olivia211 Member Posts: 675 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    There is still legitimate use for places like ESD chat. Most new players end up there and most of them still get their questions answered. Anyone that belittles a new player there gets a stern talking to and if they continue to flame new people, they are usually reported and quieted rather quickly. We are learning who the usual trolls are and most of them have been blocked by most of us regulars and they know this so they are usually going elsewhere to troll or do something else. DS9 I can't really speak for. The few times I am there it's all political talk so perhaps that area is beyond saving.

    A trade channel is helpful. I doubt I will ever use it, but I know of a few people who might like it.
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  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Why would anyone sell something for cheaper on this channel than the exchange?

    It seems to me that on the exchange, buyers and sellers name their own prices.

    If you price something low, you will usually sell it quickly.

    I have nothing against a trade channel, but I do not understand why it would be in any way BETTER than the exchange. Its only real use seems to be as an alternative for the exchange when it is buggy.
  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Why would anyone sell something for cheaper on this channel than the exchange?

    It seems to me that on the exchange, buyers and sellers name their own prices.

    If you price something low, you will usually sell it quickly.

    I have nothing against a trade channel, but I do not understand why it would be in any way BETTER than the exchange. Its only real use seems to be as an alternative for the exchange when it is buggy.

    Typically for pure trade.

    Examples:

    Trade my Weaver for your Wells sort of thing. Trades that may not involve Energy Credits (WTF are energy credits anyways? who invented that @ss of a concept?)

    I can see its potential - Its a way for a quick transaction - while the exchange may take time to attract attention.

    The channel can attract it rather quickly - one draw back though (People have to know about it and use it)

    I'm assuming as smart players, folks will use the exchange to compare prices during a Trade chat.
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  • grylakgrylak Member Posts: 1,594 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I have a trader character, so I'll be signing up for this.


    Exchange prices are often overpriced. There are those of us who just want to turn an honest profit, instead of gouging people like Ferengi. I trust this channel will be like that.
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  • khamseenairkhamseenair Member Posts: 2,640 Bug Hunter
    edited December 2012
    stark2k wrote: »
    (WTF are energy credits anyways? who invented that @ss of a concept?)

    Energy credits (commonly referred to simply as credits) were mentioned in a few episodes of the series and more frequently in books which dealt with life on Federation worlds such as Earth, Vulcan and Andoira. Though money went the way of the dinosaur, you still couldn't have a civilisation just take take take all the time, so EC limited what people could use per month, each person had an allocation (the same no matter what job they did or where they lived) and could use them for public replicators, transporters etc.
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  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    grylak wrote: »
    I have a trader character, so I'll be signing up for this.


    Exchange prices are often overpriced. There are those of us who just want to turn an honest profit, instead of gouging people like Ferengi. I trust this channel will be like that.

    I am not an economist, but I do know that according to the laws of supply and demand, in a free market, a scarce product cannot be overpriced. It is the exact price the market determines it is worth.

    Maybe the exchange prices on certain items are more than you want to pay.
  • uskodetrauskodetra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    As Stark2k has mentioned, the primary goal of this channel is for bartering, secondary goal would be negotating prices, or perhaps seeking a very specific item. I know there's a channel for it, but I will give an example... Say You're browsing through doff missions, and there's one You really want to crit, that is where this channel comes in. Just advertise You're looking for a doff with trait 1, trait 2, trait 3.

    Another purpose of the channel is for price information. If people are in the mood, They can announce price raises and fallings on particular items, such as a Temporal ship, or Tuffly. This channel is in no way designed to replace the exchange, that would just be silly, but it is designed to be the next best thing, doing things the Exchange cannot do.

    Want an item, but can't afford the EC price? Join TheTradingChannel, and see if You can wheel and deal! TheTradingChannel, for all Your trading needs http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=479391
  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I am not an economist, but I do know that according to the laws of supply and demand, in a free market, a scarce product cannot be overpriced. It is the exact price the market determines it is worth.

    Maybe the exchange prices on certain items are more than you want to pay.

    That assumes nobody's working to game the system to artificially raise prices on specific items. This is possible for people with lots of EC, strong internet connection, and time to burn.
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  • grylakgrylak Member Posts: 1,594 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I am not an economist, but I do know that according to the laws of supply and demand, in a free market, a scarce product cannot be overpriced. It is the exact price the market determines it is worth.

    Maybe the exchange prices on certain items are more than you want to pay.


    Overpriced for one person might not be overpriced for another. Especially if they have a ton of credits to burn.


    Personally, I think if something has a given value of 10,000, and it's being sold for 1 million, it's overpriced.
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  • uskodetrauskodetra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    TheTradingChannel currently has 245 subscribers over the course of the past 5 days, and continues to grow! thanks to Everyone for showing interest!

    Want an item, but can't afford the EC price? Join TheTradingChannel, and see if You can wheel and deal! TheTradingChannel, for all Your trading needs http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=479391
  • devian666devian666 Member Posts: 473
    edited December 2012
    Sounds interesting. I'm accustomed to internal economy between a few associated fleets. Some external trading would be good. I will see about joining at some point.
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  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    grylak wrote: »
    Overpriced for one person might not be overpriced for another. Especially if they have a ton of credits to burn.


    Personally, I think if something has a given value of 10,000, and it's being sold for 1 million, it's overpriced.

    Well, that is the whole basis of supply and demand. The demand for an item priced at 10,000 EC will be greater than for an item prices at 1 million EC. Supply and demand reach a price equalibrium and most of the items bought and sold will be within one standard deviation of that equalibrium point.

    By the laws of supply and demand, nothing can be overpriced. If the laws of supply and demand hold, the price cannot be manipulated.

    Now, certain very rare items could have their price manipulated and thus not be determined by the law. However, this is unlikely to be true of 99% of the items sold on the exchange.
  • uskodetrauskodetra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    TheTradingChannel is now at 500 members and continues to grow! Thank You to all who helped make it grow.

    Want an item, but can't afford the EC price? Join TheTradingChannel, and see if You can wheel and deal! TheTradingChannel, for all Your trading needs http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=479391
  • zahinderzahinder Member Posts: 2,382 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    People saying 'I don't want to gouge, unlike the exchange' don't make any sense.

    What's stopping you from listing something at a lower price?
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  • uskodetrauskodetra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    zahinder wrote: »
    People saying 'I don't want to gouge, unlike the exchange' don't make any sense.

    What's stopping you from listing something at a lower price?



    Nobody said there's no gouging. In fact, TheTradingChannel is a place to go to find better deals than the exchange. What We are saying, is the channel is a good resource if You're looking to barter for an item if You have an EC cap, or low EC but rich in items. There's deals being made all the time.

    Want an item, but can't afford the EC price? Join TheTradingChannel, and see if You can wheel and deal! TheTradingChannel, for all Your trading needs http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=479391
  • zahinderzahinder Member Posts: 2,382 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    Several posters commented that they didn't want to sell on the exchange because the prices are too high.


    That doesn't make sense.

    If you aren't saying that, I'm not referring to you. ;)
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  • interestedguyinterestedguy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2013
    grylak wrote: »
    Overpriced for one person might not be overpriced for another. Especially if they have a ton of credits to burn.


    Personally, I think if something has a given value of 10,000, and it's being sold for 1 million, it's overpriced.

    No. If something has a "given value" (given by whom, by the way?) and it is being sold for 1 million (an actual sale, not just being listed for sale at 1 million), then its value is 1 million between the buyer and seller and the "given value" is ridiculous and should be ignored.

    Or do you think that the 10 or so Very Rare Mk XII Field Generator on the exchange that everybody in the game should want should be sold for 10k ec, because that is about what you can vendor it for?
  • razorwalkerrazorwalker Member Posts: 160 Media Corps
    edited December 2013
    is this channel still going? If so, can I get an invite? Thanks
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    is this channel still going?

    Unlike this necromancer-raised year-dead thread, yes it is.
  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    uskodetra wrote: »
    TheTradingChannel is now at 500 members and continues to grow! Thank You to all who helped make it grow.


    Necro 1: was more than 30 days after the previous post. Should have been locked at that point.
    is this channel still going? If so, can I get an invite? Thanks


    Necro 2: although understandable, it was very long after the previous message.

    Unlike this necromancer-raised year-dead thread, yes it is.

    Now don't be too harsh on this guy. He has 9 posts atm.


    razorwalker, let me tell you of one of the rules on the forums. Don't post in a thread that is inactive for over 30 days. This is called necro'ing and is annoying for the moderators of the forums. Create a new threat with a link to the previous threat if you want to discuss the topic further. I don't think anyone will blaim you for not knowing this rule, seeing you only have 9 posts at this moment, so that is why I am friendly explaining this. Don't feel sad, many have been this road.

    It is to be expected that a Forum Moderator will close this threat in a matter of hours.
  • uskodetrauskodetra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The thread's still going, I keep the rules and mods updated, and yes, the channel's also still going, roughly 1775 members currently. The channel went private to make it easier to filter out the trolls to make it a more friendly environment. All the mods @handles are on post 1, if anyone would like an invite, send a mail to Myself, @Usko_Detra, or to any of the current mods, thanks!

    Want an item, but can't afford the EC price? Join TheTradingChannel, and see if You can wheel and deal! TheTradingChannel, for all Your trading needs http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=479391
  • defraggerdefragger Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Hey there Guys/Gals/Dudes/Dudettes.I just wanted to take this Opportunity to thank you being a part of TTC,and want to welcome those of you who want to be a part of this community.


    Please disregard any of the previous mods for invite until further notice except:

    @hevymtl4life
    @Lake1771

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  • admiraltrappittadmiraltrappitt Member Posts: 444 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    So you have kicked off the creator, @Usko_Detra? Also, I feel un-inclined to join the channel, as it has been made private.
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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    How can a channel creator be kicked out of the channel lol....?
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  • uskodetrauskodetra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    So you have kicked off the creator, @Usko_Detra? Also, I feel un-inclined to join the channel, as it has been made private.


    Hi, I haven't been removed from the channel, due to real life matters My time is limited with STO. As for the channel going private, there was much discussion about it and the members felt this was the right direction to take, so long as it does not hamper the growth of the channel. We had come regularly under the attack of trolls from a number of other channels, and due to this we made it private for the time being.

    due to the channel going private, it has a much more positive atmosphere than it used to have. Trollers, scammers and the like will be removed from the channel, with them having no way to rejoin the channel or know the channel activities, making the channel have a cleaner atmosphere. For those who feel that it might be a restrictive direction of the moderators desiring power or however, I can assure you that this is not the case. The mods know the rules, they will abide by the rules or be removed from having a moderator position.

    We just felt that this was a positive direction to encourage a positive atmosphere and maintain the channel reputation. If there are any complaints or questions, please feel free to mail Me directly ingame, and I will address every issue.

    Want an item, but can't afford the EC price? Join TheTradingChannel, and see if You can wheel and deal! TheTradingChannel, for all Your trading needs http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=479391
  • miirikmiirik Member Posts: 483 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    so how do new people get into the channel, then, if it's private?
  • redsnake721redsnake721 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    oops wrong thread.
  • aloishammeraloishammer Member Posts: 3,294 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    miirik wrote: »
    so how do new people get into the channel, then, if it's private?

    These two quoted posts contain all the information one needs:
    uskodetra wrote: »
    The thread's still going, I keep the rules and mods updated, and yes, the channel's also still going, roughly 1775 members currently. The channel went private to make it easier to filter out the trolls to make it a more friendly environment. All the mods @handles are on post 1, if anyone would like an invite, send a mail to Myself, @Usko_Detra, or to any of the current mods, thanks!

    Now, Usko is taking some time off, so we go to the next post and:
    defragger wrote: »
    Hey there Guys/Gals/Dudes/Dudettes.I just wanted to take this Opportunity to thank you being a part of TTC,and want to welcome those of you who want to be a part of this community.


    Please disregard any of the previous mods for invite until further notice except:

    @hevymtl4life
    @Lake1771


    TY:) \m/ Braindrain

    So there's your answer: PM a channel moderator and ask for an invitation.
  • tehbubbalootehbubbaloo Member Posts: 2,003 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    uskodetra wrote: »
    The channel went private to make it easier to filter out the trolls to make it a more friendly environment.

    trolls like me? somebody that referred numerous people to the channel? somebody that used the channel frequently to buy fleetmarks for our dead feddie fleet? somebody that never brought any drama to the channel via any venue full stop?

    oh, i see. somebody that is an active part of NoP Public Service and gives away invites and fleet ships every day. somebody that is a member of Nerds of Prey.


    just a word of warning to people out there: you will be kicked from this channel for no reason other than participation in NoP Public Service. so you have a choice to make... free access to top-tier holdings and fleet ships via NoP Public Service? or access to paid services and the like via 'thetradingchannel'.
    im sorry, i was wrong. they really do have no tolerance for free access. i will make sure that is the new message i deliver whenever the opportunity arises.
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