Why do the requirements increase for the projects every tier? I just reached Tier 2 Omega and already the EC cost is getting kind of silly. The mark cost going up makes a bit of sense, cause I have tons of those as it is, but again, why is the EC cost so high?
I wouldn't mind the reputation system so much if the commodity requirements didn't go up, or there where more ways to earn the requirements rather than buying them.
The higher level baddies now have a better chance of dropping junk to sell so that helps, but i would say they are a little expensive in EC, especially now they are 1 a day.
A fellow fleet member just finished T3 upgrade. He decided to buy all his commodities etc to get him to T4. He calculated how many projects it would take. Total EC cost came to 1 million EC.
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If course if you buy this from your own replicator it's expensive, but if you get an invite on a freighters or go to the commodities sellers, it's fine. Actually i earn a lot more EC a day with regular play so i don't notice that...
You must be unbelievably lucky then with random drops. I tend to get 2-3 consumables (batteries) and 1-2 white or green items that vendor for 6k. about once a night I will get a blue or purple that I can auction for 30k or vendor for 12k-20k.
Total after running 3-4 STFs tends to be about 60k or less.
Do a single tour the universe hour, 2million EC to fund it for quite a while
That's what I did
Due to lag and computer's issues, I was only able to do one full lap in the last event, but I still got 350K EC, enough to set me for about 20 more projects, roughly (Speaking from about-to-hit-Tier-1) Even with increasing costs, that event is your go-to for EC
And you can do it as many times as possible, as long as you finish the whole curcuit before the event finishes
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Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Due to lag and computer's issues, I was only able to do one full lap in the last event, but I still got 350K EC, enough to set me for about 20 more projects, roughly (Speaking from about-to-hit-Tier-1) Even with increasing costs, that event is your go-to for EC
And you can do it as many times as possible, as long as you finish the whole curcuit before the event finishes
Thing is , dont do full laps, do something like below and you can easily get EC to last for quite a while in doing the Rep projects
Tour the universe 1hour 1.7mil +
Borg engines, Raiding Party and Diplomatic Immunity (normally from people around Wolf 359), Purple Astrometrics Doff
After getting the Tour from the chap in the club
Leave Sol space and head for beta Urse
As soon as you transfer to Beta do a quick instance swap and you will be at the far end
From there head up to Orellis and complete there and hang a right into Eta Erandi space
go through EE as quick as you can and head to Omega Leonis and through the Klingon Gate to Borg space
When in Borg space head for the very centre point, by going through the very centre it hits all 4 sections and head straight for Fluidic space
When there you can head back to Sol via transwarp (should be on a 4-5minute timer with a purple astrometrics) - if not just before the tour get the stranded in spae assignment - it takes you just outside of sol for 100ec and reverse to sol
End the tour mission and get it again - repeat every 5 or so minutes for 200k per run
You must be unbelievably lucky then with random drops. I tend to get 2-3 consumables (batteries) and 1-2 white or green items that vendor for 6k. about once a night I will get a blue or purple that I can auction for 30k or vendor for 12k-20k.
Total after running 3-4 STFs tends to be about 60k or less.
if a 150k is some ungodly amount to you, you really really fail at STO
one STF engine drop is 50k at a vender, doing the Rom Sector Patrol nets me at least 100k in trash loot, and Doffing...Bloody Doffing... Ec rains from the sky with its drops
The cash isn't too bad really. The Mark cost on the other hand....500 marks for an item? I've got to run the Tau Dewa Sector Patrol half a dozen times per item? And if I want to fully equip a ship with sets? And do it on 7 characters? The money is the easy part.
Be ****ing happy it's not Dil or lots more. and 150k not a lot so hush it and just be happy ones for love of good . It was worst in being of Rep system/Season 7 .
if a 150k is some ungodly amount to you, you really really fail at STO
one STF engine drop is 50k at a vender, doing the Rom Sector Patrol nets me at least 100k in trash loot, and Doffing...Bloody Doffing... Ec rains from the sky with its drops
yeah, if yo aren't making 100K each time you run to the vendor then you're playing the game wrong. Once you start doing space missions each junk drop alone net you 6-7K from recycle alone. Like someone else said each Engine, shield and Deflector nets you 40K + alone.
Add Doff the Space Engine & shield missions for another easy 40K EC here and there. And the regular Doff console mission can net you big cash if you get lucky.
even WITH a tuffli, its still (at t2 going to t3) 40k ec per day on the 2k project lol...this is really easy ec...one freaking mk 11 engine haahh...scrap that and bam
heck my tuffli has seen more business with my fleet since this rep system began than it did before hand...even if im the only one in our fleet to have a mobile base...that actually HAS AN EXCHANGE....unlike the dang fleet starbase that just has a bank.
It's far easier to earn lots of EC than it is any other currency in the game. Just vendoring loot can get all the EC you need, and if you do a little work and find prices for loot on the exchange you could make even more.
I spent a good 800k or so outfitting a new ship, but earned it back in no time just by doing the tau dawa sector patrol a few times (Hirogen are quite generous) and selling everything, either on the exchange for a decent price or guaranteed half value at vendors.
Like most, I am more concerned with my lack of Dil.
Tour the universe is the easiest way to get money, if for some reason you keep missing it just run the breen featured episode and vendor (never recycle, always go to a vendor) the space set. That will get you more than the 150k you need per day
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Let the stupid suffer
There is a vendor on New Romulus that sells large hypos, major regenerators, and large shield recharges. It helps a bit (much cheaper than the exchange) but it's still pricey.
There is a vendor on New Romulus that sells large hypos, major regenerators, and large shield recharges. It helps a bit (much cheaper than the exchange) but it's still pricey.
These are the vendors you need to look for. Any vendor that sells common ground or space consumables (hypos, batteries, that sort). These are the only vendors AFAIK that actually buy for 50%. Others tend to buy for less. You can find these vendors in most major social zones (ESD, DS9, K7, New Romulus) but frustratingly not the Fleet Starbase.
Generally, I have not had a problem keeping up with EC cost so far. I'll crack T3 today as soon as my current batch of projects completes, we'll see after that. So far, running a lot of Starbase 24 helps me reach my dilithium cap AND gives me piles of loot to either flip on the exchange or sell to the vendor. If you get 1st or 2nd place, you'll even get purples.
EC is not at all hard to come by. Heck, you can just run cold call on normal, choose the breen deflector, and vendor it for a sweet 100k. Takes about 5 minutes on normal.
I'll sell you some weapons from New Romulus. Never fired, only dropped once.
I do the romulan daily missions to get my EC.. I do the 5 missions that require to clear out the squadrons (nausicans, romulans, klingons, hunters), you end up with tons of white/green stuff to sell!
Heck you end up making more EC than you need in most cases, especially if you play on advanced or elite
(not to mention that i get nothing else done besides filling the rep system)
i got a few hundred million EC saved up (account wide) so it doesn't bother me much, but the "sink" is clearly working, i spend more than i earn per day at the moment.
I know some players are going to find it tougher that it should be.
A fleet mate's sold large hypos on the exchange for x10 the vendor price. :eek:
Ripping people off like that made him feel dirty, and not in the good way :P
Do a search on http://www.stowiki.org you can find the cheapest vendor for all of the commodities. There are more than a few ways, some listed on this thread, to get EC.
I can play for around and hour, hit my dilithium limit on dailies, and sell all the junk. That usually nets me 150-200k.
Do "Negotiate Delivery of Additional Artifacts." Powered Artifacts sell on the exchange for around a mil EC.
I'm running the rep mission now to get the cutting beam. 500 Marks does seem steep. But, not after an hour of STFs during and event. Not sure what I'm gonna do about the Romulan rep though. I've been doing the patrol mission, plus a circuit of the Romulan ground missions.
They can be a little grindy. On the other hand, so far there's no Romulan items I want.
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This has not happened, maybe because we can now earn Dilithium on rep project completion.
Still, its costing around 150k ec per day thereabouts to start these projects, still a little steep for the average player imho!
I don't mind the Dilithium and Mark cost, but the EC cost is driving me crazy.
you can hit that with STF trash
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God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
You must be unbelievably lucky then with random drops. I tend to get 2-3 consumables (batteries) and 1-2 white or green items that vendor for 6k. about once a night I will get a blue or purple that I can auction for 30k or vendor for 12k-20k.
Total after running 3-4 STFs tends to be about 60k or less.
Due to lag and computer's issues, I was only able to do one full lap in the last event, but I still got 350K EC, enough to set me for about 20 more projects, roughly (Speaking from about-to-hit-Tier-1) Even with increasing costs, that event is your go-to for EC
And you can do it as many times as possible, as long as you finish the whole curcuit before the event finishes
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Like a boss.
Thing is , dont do full laps, do something like below and you can easily get EC to last for quite a while in doing the Rep projects
Tour the universe 1hour 1.7mil +
Borg engines, Raiding Party and Diplomatic Immunity (normally from people around Wolf 359), Purple Astrometrics Doff
After getting the Tour from the chap in the club
Leave Sol space and head for beta Urse
As soon as you transfer to Beta do a quick instance swap and you will be at the far end
From there head up to Orellis and complete there and hang a right into Eta Erandi space
go through EE as quick as you can and head to Omega Leonis and through the Klingon Gate to Borg space
When in Borg space head for the very centre point, by going through the very centre it hits all 4 sections and head straight for Fluidic space
When there you can head back to Sol via transwarp (should be on a 4-5minute timer with a purple astrometrics) - if not just before the tour get the stranded in spae assignment - it takes you just outside of sol for 100ec and reverse to sol
End the tour mission and get it again - repeat every 5 or so minutes for 200k per run
if a 150k is some ungodly amount to you, you really really fail at STO
one STF engine drop is 50k at a vender, doing the Rom Sector Patrol nets me at least 100k in trash loot, and Doffing...Bloody Doffing... Ec rains from the sky with its drops
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yeah, if yo aren't making 100K each time you run to the vendor then you're playing the game wrong. Once you start doing space missions each junk drop alone net you 6-7K from recycle alone. Like someone else said each Engine, shield and Deflector nets you 40K + alone.
Add Doff the Space Engine & shield missions for another easy 40K EC here and there. And the regular Doff console mission can net you big cash if you get lucky.
even WITH a tuffli, its still (at t2 going to t3) 40k ec per day on the 2k project lol...this is really easy ec...one freaking mk 11 engine haahh...scrap that and bam
heck my tuffli has seen more business with my fleet since this rep system began than it did before hand...even if im the only one in our fleet to have a mobile base...that actually HAS AN EXCHANGE....unlike the dang fleet starbase that just has a bank.
I spent a good 800k or so outfitting a new ship, but earned it back in no time just by doing the tau dawa sector patrol a few times (Hirogen are quite generous) and selling everything, either on the exchange for a decent price or guaranteed half value at vendors.
Like most, I am more concerned with my lack of Dil.
Let the stupid suffer
Already have one, just for that.
These are the vendors you need to look for. Any vendor that sells common ground or space consumables (hypos, batteries, that sort). These are the only vendors AFAIK that actually buy for 50%. Others tend to buy for less. You can find these vendors in most major social zones (ESD, DS9, K7, New Romulus) but frustratingly not the Fleet Starbase.
Generally, I have not had a problem keeping up with EC cost so far. I'll crack T3 today as soon as my current batch of projects completes, we'll see after that. So far, running a lot of Starbase 24 helps me reach my dilithium cap AND gives me piles of loot to either flip on the exchange or sell to the vendor. If you get 1st or 2nd place, you'll even get purples.
Heck you end up making more EC than you need in most cases, especially if you play on advanced or elite
i'd say it has a noticeable impact.
(not to mention that i get nothing else done besides filling the rep system)
i got a few hundred million EC saved up (account wide) so it doesn't bother me much, but the "sink" is clearly working, i spend more than i earn per day at the moment.
Although, for a newer player it will hurt until they know how to make money or go to the commodity brokers instead of the replicator....
A fleet mate's sold large hypos on the exchange for x10 the vendor price. :eek:
Ripping people off like that made him feel dirty, and not in the good way :P
I can play for around and hour, hit my dilithium limit on dailies, and sell all the junk. That usually nets me 150-200k.
Do "Negotiate Delivery of Additional Artifacts." Powered Artifacts sell on the exchange for around a mil EC.
I'm running the rep mission now to get the cutting beam. 500 Marks does seem steep. But, not after an hour of STFs during and event. Not sure what I'm gonna do about the Romulan rep though. I've been doing the patrol mission, plus a circuit of the Romulan ground missions.
They can be a little grindy. On the other hand, so far there's no Romulan items I want.