i am re-watching TNG at the moment, Season 1 as BluRay, rest as DVD.
the one thing that totally sticks out to me now is that the Galaxy Class in-game looks nowhere near as good as the original Ship, all those smooth lines and details.... and the STO ship is such a place holder graphic that it hurts to look at it.
i REALLY would want a Galaxy Class that actually looks good in STO.
a complete remake from scratch is what i would want. A Replica!
no stupid "variants" that look like Lego either...
Looking at the quality of the Odyssey and other newer Ships, the Star Trek Hero ships all look outdated and sub-par by now.
Galaxy, Intrepid, Sovereign, Defiant.
They all need to be redone! (don't even try to fix those old models with some minor tweaks, not worth it, not even the proportions are right).
....
other than that?
I finally want those TNG Movie Rifles! (ALL OF THEM! and not some sub par Mk XI blue TRIBBLE (like the Bajoran Phaser Rifle that nobody ever uses...) REAL ENDGAME ITEMS!
I don't care if i have to pay 150k Dilithium to get them, add a Shop on the Interior that you can only use if you bought the TNG pack ;P )
And when they do the Galaxy-Class Bridge, it better comes with both, the TNG and the Genesis Variants!
The Battlebridge would be a nice gimmick too.
I like ALL Star Trek Ships, but the Galaxy Class i do really LOVE !
I'd also love to see the TNG captain's yacht as a smallcraft option. Sure, it was never deployed, but it's in the tech manual.
Stellar Cartography would be a great location to have- just in general for ship maps, but I'd like to see the TNG one which we saw in generations, because that looked pretty cool.
Oh, and of course. Dolphin. Doffs. There's no excuse not to have them now.
I'd also like more classic trek sound bytes- particularly for powers. None of this generic TRIBBLE we have now, but like actual "shuttle bay door opening alarm" whenever someone launches a shuttle, or a red alert alarm when you hit critical hull damage or something. idk, but could be a good option for the TNG pack.
On a completely different note ( and speaking about interiors ) : do we have any idea whatsoever what an Andorian ship interior might look like ? Is that even featured in TNG or any other series ? I certainly can't recall....
I'd also love to see the TNG captain's yacht as a smallcraft option. Sure, it was never deployed, but it's in the tech manual.
Actually the captain's yacht featured in Insurrection .And I'm fairly certain it was also used in some episodes .
On a completely different note ( and speaking about interiors ) : do we have any idea whatsoever what an Andorian ship interior might look like ? Is that even featured in TNG or any other series ? I certainly can't recall....
It was shown in Enterprise but given that we haven't seen a new bridge on a c-store ship since the odyssey, and got knows how long before that, I'm not holding my breath on it, It was cool lookin' though and would be nice to have (Wish they'd make the interior for the D'Kyr as well.. ).
On a side note to somebody else posting above about re-doing the other series focus ships YES.. PLEASE re-do the geometry on the Intrepid...
On a completely different note ( and speaking about interiors ) : do we have any idea whatsoever what an Andorian ship interior might look like ? Is that even featured in TNG or any other series ? I certainly can't recall....
Actually the captain's yacht featured in Insurrection .And I'm fairly certain it was also used in some episodes .
The bridge of the andorian battlecruiser Kumari can be seen several times on "Enterprise".
On a completely different note ( and speaking about interiors ) : do we have any idea whatsoever what an Andorian ship interior might look like ? Is that even featured in TNG or any other series ? I certainly can't recall....
Actually the captain's yacht featured in Insurrection .And I'm fairly certain it was also used in some episodes .
It was never used in any episodes, though it was included in the technical specs and also the models.
It doesn't need to be included in any bundle as it's already a vet reward.
i am re-watching TNG at the moment, Season 1 as BluRay, rest as DVD.
the one thing that totally sticks out to me now is that the Galaxy Class in-game looks nowhere near as good as the original Ship, all those smooth lines and details.... and the STO ship is such a place holder graphic that it hurts to look at it.
i REALLY would want a Galaxy Class that actually looks good in STO.
a complete remake from scratch is what i would want. A Replica!
no stupid "variants" that look like Lego either...
Looking at the quality of the Odyssey and other newer Ships, the Star Trek Hero ships all look outdated and sub-par by now.
Galaxy, Intrepid, Sovereign, Defiant.
They all need to be redone! (don't even try to fix those old models with some minor tweaks, not worth it, not even the proportions are right).
....
other than that?
I finally want those TNG Movie Rifles! (ALL OF THEM! and not some sub par Mk XI blue TRIBBLE (like the Bajoran Phaser Rifle that nobody ever uses...) REAL ENDGAME ITEMS!
I don't care if i have to pay 150k Dilithium to get them, add a Shop on the Interior that you can only use if you bought the TNG pack ;P )
And when they do the Galaxy-Class Bridge, it better comes with both, the TNG and the Genesis Variants!
The Battlebridge would be a nice gimmick too.
I like ALL Star Trek Ships, but the Galaxy Class i do really LOVE !
Im 100% with you on this one mate. Considering the time and effort the devs put into the Odessey and Vesta class, we now know the devs are capable of putting much more detail into its starships.
I'm quite happy with Adam Logans (CapnLogan, previous STO ship builder) Galaxy class rework for season two, and he did an amazing job. The one thing that does bother me though is lack of materials and decals. Also most of the new cryptic 2409 ships have modelled geo on them for the deflectors. (like the Venture class refit). Why don't the devs just model a proper deflector dish for the Galay class. No matter what material you use, you will always have a proper deflector on the Galaxy.
Im using the fleet "unique" material on my Galaxy atm and its superb, but the Galaxy just doesnt look right with that plain blue deflector. I've also noticed that its missing alot of decals on the ship. For instance, the thin red lines that run down the spine of the ship.
Also the registry is missing next to the main shuttle bay.
If the devs are putting 100% detail into the new ships, then I think if there going to do a TNG bundle, they should either one: make a new detailed authentic material for the Galaxy or two: make a more accurate version with proper details.
Obviously alot of people feel the same way with current STO ships that are cannon, and I think if there is to be a tng bundle, now is a great time to make the improvements and listen to the players.
As this post is getting a lot of attention, thought I'd re-post my comments buried back on page 3. Hopefully DEVs and Mr Stahl are reading this and calculating their potention profits!
To be honest I think it's astonishing that after 3 years we do not have a TNG ship pack (not just bridge which we kinda have already). For most ST fans TNG was the pinnacle of the genre, the Galaxy class NCC1701-D Enterprise IS Star Trek. I'm old enough to have watched TOS sitting on my mother's knee, I've seen and loved all the series and films but Picard's Enterprise is THE ship I most want to fly. If I'm doing fairly mundane dailies and so on I still fly the Galaxy but for more demanding missions it has to be the Regent with the Sovvy skin.
So what I would like to see here is a two part pack.
Part 1: Full ship interior, at least six decks with all the above mentioned areas to scale please. We should also make sure there is a Shuttle bay as many great episodes had crucial scenes there, I would want to have a raisable shuttle bay door with the alarm sound affect used in the show which was always awesome. Definite includes are of course the bridge with THE CORRECT READY ROOM, not the usual bolted on copy that's on every other ship except the TOS pack, and also the adjoining conference room, these two are absoultly vital in this pack.
Part 2: Upgrade to either the Galaxy or the Dreadnought, preferably the Galaxy to at least make it as good as the Dread but with seperating saucer as per the show. An extra Sci slot and change one of the stations to universal so we can make this classic and much loved ship far more useful in PvP, STFs and other challenging areas of STO.
For Part One:
AREAS TO BE INCLUDED
Bridge - conference room, ready room, turbolifts
10-Forward
Engineering
Transporter Room 3
Holodeck 3 with an option to run foundry missions from inside and a tailor to set appropriate outfit
Sickbay
Crew deck with quarters for Picard, Data, Troy and as many other rooms as you can get on, we know how easy this is, there are some foundry missions with many many rooms on one deck
Astrometrics lab
Science Lab - I think where they tried to get through to Locutus but going to have to check that
Plenty of Jeffrey's Tubes
Hydroponics
Shuttlebay
In addition we need the correct sound effects for places like the warp core area in engineering, the general ambient background noises.
Interactive Areas:
Holodeck, call the Arch to access the foundry
Shuttle bay raising door and alarm - access to shuttle from the bay with a graphic of leaving the Enterprise through the forcefield or the ability to launch a shuttle from the bay and see it exit the forcefield.
Plenty of interactive views from the bridge, cycle through images on the view screen with option to magnify and option for a warp field view (comon I've had a starfield screensaver on my PC as long as I've had PCs)
All the onboard crew must be in TNG uniforms
The pack will also include the correct weapons and sound effects
A choice of uniforms including Picard's Jacket
El Baz Shuttle + El Baz Shuttle Pet
Nice to have, - a working poker mini-game
Finally the ship should have the correct Aztec marking scheme option.
A lot of work yes, expensive probably, worth it YOU BET.
There has been some significant criticism of STO that it has moved too far away from the Star Trek IP by many people, the addition of the above pack with all or most of those features would I believe in one fell swoop put this game light years ahead of any other Trek game ever released. The knock on subscriptions as word of mouth got out, the publicity from Startrek.com and other notable sites would be huge!
How much would I pay for this? Well I think the price for some of the above would be around 2000-3000 Zen, if they added everything I listed I would gladly pay 5000 Zen, maybe more.
Cryptic, STO is a very good MMO, but many people including myself only play it because it IS Star Trek, put the Enterprise back into STO and you will be rolling in GPL and the fans will be your devoted followers for years to come.
MAKE IT SO!
Well said sir. I think were all 100% behind you on this. TNG was my trek, and now its started to get a HD makeover on blueray, now is the best time to put money into making a good TNG bundle for the fans.
My personal opinion on this is this. If we were to get a Galaxy interior with proper sound effects , a weapons pack with some of the famous TNG phasers, a few more costumes like Picards jacket and Dr Crushers medical coat, and to top it off a really detailed and accurate Galaxy class model (which the devs have proved they can do detailed models. The Vesta class is a prime example of the talent of the devs when making ships), this would make the game "Star Trek" for me, and would probably make this game 100% complete for me.
I would spend hours flying around sector space, answering distress calls and helping other players. Walking around my interior for hours doing Doff missions etc. Also its another great chance to make some fan machinima.
I love using the demo record feature, and with an accurate interior, I could finally make an awesome STO spinoff series.
For a quick example, here is a quick video I made a while back, when I was starting to get used to the demo record feature. It was just after season two with the new Galaxy class bridges.
I was going to call the series Yamato based on my ship and its crew. The reason I stopped though was because of the interiors. They just didn't look right using the demo record, so I put it on hold until we got a proper interior.
So yeah, I strongly agree with having a TNG bundle, and I think Cryptic play there cards right with this, they could not only earn a lot of money, but also keep many players hooked for many years to come...well me at least any how.
Totally agree with the two posts above. It looks good in the Vet skin but needs a lot of work to really shine.
Come on DEVS the Galaxy is THE ONE SHIP that MUST be made to look and perform well, we know you can do it, we have the cash waiting, give us what we want please!
Agreed. No matter what the price would be, If the devs ARE listening/watching (which I sincerely hope they are), I would certainly pay top bucks for this bundle. Its there chance to really show off there skills, and bringing Star Trek authenticity to the game.
I know some may disagree with my last statement, but for me the next generation was my Trek. I love all Trek (yes,yes including Enterprise.lol), and a big fan of the classic Gene Rodenberry's vision...but the next gen for tech,set design,characters and of course the Galaxy class Enterprise...this to me is Star Trek.
Another quick point to add about the Galaxy model while Im at it. Now we do have the HD version of The Next Generation, there are tones of reference materials on the Galaxy class model, so surly the devs can take this into acount...If they are to either make an alternate material, or a redmake of the Galaxy class model itself. Well...not a remake, but an update at least.
Very good point, I've not seen the BD version yet but hopefully this means there are a ton of extras and bonus materials to work from.
Love your short film, you should continue regardless, nice work.
Cheers
Matt
Many thanks. I will consider doing another video short like that very soon. Haven't used the demo record for a while. Should be fun now we have new romulus.
I ask you, forum Dwellers, Where would we be without Wesley Crusher's Civilian Sweaters, Rainbow cadet uniform, and Acting ensign uniform that has pants that won't zip up all the way.
And while we're on the subject, where Counselor Troi's grey denim "fat suit" or her blue cleavage swoosh dress thing?
But above it all, what I think we need is Riker's Super V plunge Angel One diplomatic attire.
OK not enough people are talking about it so I'll say it again, We need the crew walking around the interiors of the Galaxy Class to be wearing TNG uniforms-not the ones from the first two seasons PLEASE.
Q: [quoting Hartley] "Nothing reveals Humanity so well as the games it plays..."
OK not enough people are talking about it so I'll say it again, We need the crew walking around the interiors of the Galaxy Class to be wearing TNG uniforms-not the ones from the first two seasons PLEASE.
Indeed. That spoilt the feeling with the Belfast Defiant bridge. Would be sweet if they do an interior, with the crew all wearing tng uniforms. would be sweet.
Indeed. That spoilt the feeling with the Belfast Defiant bridge. Would be sweet if they do an interior, with the crew all wearing tng uniforms. would be sweet.
How about you let us CHOOSE THE BLOODY UNIFORMS!!??!? :mad:
COSTUMES:
TNG dress uniforms.
Season 1 Skant
Season 1 pants
All TNG admiral uniforms.
BRIDGE PACK:
Main Bridge
Battle Bridge
Shuttle bay
Ten Forward
Captain's Quarters
Ready Room
Conference Room
Sickbay
Transporter Room
Engineering
Data's lab
Holodeck
Stellar Cartography
Any other rooms that were seen on the show
WEAPONS:
Type I phaser
The two type II phasers
Type III phaser rifle
The two shuttles and one shuttlepod seen frequently on the show.
I expect a 15 USD spoonful of digital fluff.:PHowever, if they have the season 1 "Dustbuster" phaser. The one that does that season 1 face-melt, head exploding into a bloody-steaming meat shower thing...I would totally buy it.:)I would equip all my Boffs, and myself with it, and only do ground missions. Because, that would never get old with me.:D
I would like to see ALL ship skin options available to ALL Galaxy class models as well.
Hopefully the admiral and season 1 uniforms would be part of the pack.
Poker is always asked for, I don't see why it couldn't be added in some way, or referenced, maybe with a dealer visor costume piece(even though I personally would like to see more non-human games in STO).
Klingon stuff is good too. I have a Work action figure and he's wearing that sweet coat, so that would be nice.
I ask you, forum Dwellers, Where would we be without Wesley Crusher's Civilian Sweaters, Rainbow cadet uniform, and Acting ensign uniform that has pants that won't zip up all the way.
And while we're on the subject, where Counselor Troi's grey denim "fat suit" or her blue cleavage swoosh dress thing?
But above it all, what I think we need is Riker's Super V plunge Angel One diplomatic attire.
Hmm I doubt we would get that level of gore in the game but it would be sweet for sure, maybe an option to switch gore on and off as per valve games?
It would be a nice feature.My klingons would also like a gratitious emote-"Place foot on deceased foes chest, and dislodge Bat'leth from enemy's brainpan.":D
I would like to see ALL ship skin options available to ALL Galaxy class models as well.
Hopefully the admiral and season 1 uniforms would be part of the pack.
Poker is always asked for, I don't see why it couldn't be added in some way, or referenced, maybe with a dealer visor costume piece(even though I personally would like to see more non-human games in STO).
Klingon stuff is good too. I have a Work action figure and he's wearing that sweet coat, so that would be nice.
DOff missions would be cool.
And all this:
By the "All Ship Skin", I take it you are reffering to all the material types. We currently have 4 material types, and I'm still waiting for the devs to add the option for type 6 (the material that comes with the plus one ships), to be made available to "all" the other ships ingame.
They probably will if they even do a TNG bundle. Threads been going for nearly a week, and still no solid confirmation on what going on with such bundle. Probably wont be till new year.
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the one thing that totally sticks out to me now is that the Galaxy Class in-game looks nowhere near as good as the original Ship, all those smooth lines and details.... and the STO ship is such a place holder graphic that it hurts to look at it.
i REALLY would want a Galaxy Class that actually looks good in STO.
a complete remake from scratch is what i would want. A Replica!
no stupid "variants" that look like Lego either...
Looking at the quality of the Odyssey and other newer Ships, the Star Trek Hero ships all look outdated and sub-par by now.
Galaxy, Intrepid, Sovereign, Defiant.
They all need to be redone! (don't even try to fix those old models with some minor tweaks, not worth it, not even the proportions are right).
....
other than that?
I finally want those TNG Movie Rifles! (ALL OF THEM! and not some sub par Mk XI blue TRIBBLE (like the Bajoran Phaser Rifle that nobody ever uses...) REAL ENDGAME ITEMS!
I don't care if i have to pay 150k Dilithium to get them, add a Shop on the Interior that you can only use if you bought the TNG pack ;P )
And when they do the Galaxy-Class Bridge, it better comes with both, the TNG and the Genesis Variants!
The Battlebridge would be a nice gimmick too.
I like ALL Star Trek Ships, but the Galaxy Class i do really LOVE !
I'd also love to see the TNG captain's yacht as a smallcraft option. Sure, it was never deployed, but it's in the tech manual.
Stellar Cartography would be a great location to have- just in general for ship maps, but I'd like to see the TNG one which we saw in generations, because that looked pretty cool.
Oh, and of course. Dolphin. Doffs. There's no excuse not to have them now.
I'd also like more classic trek sound bytes- particularly for powers. None of this generic TRIBBLE we have now, but like actual "shuttle bay door opening alarm" whenever someone launches a shuttle, or a red alert alarm when you hit critical hull damage or something. idk, but could be a good option for the TNG pack.
More emotes. A traveler doff.
Actually the captain's yacht featured in Insurrection .And I'm fairly certain it was also used in some episodes .
It was shown in Enterprise but given that we haven't seen a new bridge on a c-store ship since the odyssey, and got knows how long before that, I'm not holding my breath on it, It was cool lookin' though and would be nice to have (Wish they'd make the interior for the D'Kyr as well.. ).
On a side note to somebody else posting above about re-doing the other series focus ships YES.. PLEASE re-do the geometry on the Intrepid...
The bridge of the andorian battlecruiser Kumari can be seen several times on "Enterprise".
It was never used in any episodes, though it was included in the technical specs and also the models.
It doesn't need to be included in any bundle as it's already a vet reward.
for reference http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Captain%27s_yacht
Im 100% with you on this one mate. Considering the time and effort the devs put into the Odessey and Vesta class, we now know the devs are capable of putting much more detail into its starships.
I'm quite happy with Adam Logans (CapnLogan, previous STO ship builder) Galaxy class rework for season two, and he did an amazing job. The one thing that does bother me though is lack of materials and decals. Also most of the new cryptic 2409 ships have modelled geo on them for the deflectors. (like the Venture class refit). Why don't the devs just model a proper deflector dish for the Galay class. No matter what material you use, you will always have a proper deflector on the Galaxy.
Im using the fleet "unique" material on my Galaxy atm and its superb, but the Galaxy just doesnt look right with that plain blue deflector. I've also noticed that its missing alot of decals on the ship. For instance, the thin red lines that run down the spine of the ship.
Also the registry is missing next to the main shuttle bay.
If the devs are putting 100% detail into the new ships, then I think if there going to do a TNG bundle, they should either one: make a new detailed authentic material for the Galaxy or two: make a more accurate version with proper details.
Obviously alot of people feel the same way with current STO ships that are cannon, and I think if there is to be a tng bundle, now is a great time to make the improvements and listen to the players.
Well said sir. I think were all 100% behind you on this. TNG was my trek, and now its started to get a HD makeover on blueray, now is the best time to put money into making a good TNG bundle for the fans.
My personal opinion on this is this. If we were to get a Galaxy interior with proper sound effects , a weapons pack with some of the famous TNG phasers, a few more costumes like Picards jacket and Dr Crushers medical coat, and to top it off a really detailed and accurate Galaxy class model (which the devs have proved they can do detailed models. The Vesta class is a prime example of the talent of the devs when making ships), this would make the game "Star Trek" for me, and would probably make this game 100% complete for me.
I would spend hours flying around sector space, answering distress calls and helping other players. Walking around my interior for hours doing Doff missions etc. Also its another great chance to make some fan machinima.
I love using the demo record feature, and with an accurate interior, I could finally make an awesome STO spinoff series.
For a quick example, here is a quick video I made a while back, when I was starting to get used to the demo record feature. It was just after season two with the new Galaxy class bridges.
http://s1130.beta.photobucket.com/user/CaptainWallis/media/Yamato1.mp4.html
I was going to call the series Yamato based on my ship and its crew. The reason I stopped though was because of the interiors. They just didn't look right using the demo record, so I put it on hold until we got a proper interior.
So yeah, I strongly agree with having a TNG bundle, and I think Cryptic play there cards right with this, they could not only earn a lot of money, but also keep many players hooked for many years to come...well me at least any how.
Agreed. No matter what the price would be, If the devs ARE listening/watching (which I sincerely hope they are), I would certainly pay top bucks for this bundle. Its there chance to really show off there skills, and bringing Star Trek authenticity to the game.
I know some may disagree with my last statement, but for me the next generation was my Trek. I love all Trek (yes,yes including Enterprise.lol), and a big fan of the classic Gene Rodenberry's vision...but the next gen for tech,set design,characters and of course the Galaxy class Enterprise...this to me is Star Trek.
Many thanks. I will consider doing another video short like that very soon. Haven't used the demo record for a while. Should be fun now we have new romulus.
I ask you, forum Dwellers, Where would we be without Wesley Crusher's Civilian Sweaters, Rainbow cadet uniform, and Acting ensign uniform that has pants that won't zip up all the way.
And while we're on the subject, where Counselor Troi's grey denim "fat suit" or her blue cleavage swoosh dress thing?
But above it all, what I think we need is Riker's Super V plunge Angel One diplomatic attire.
I'm with you. Bring on the Skant! LOL.
Indeed. That spoilt the feeling with the Belfast Defiant bridge. Would be sweet if they do an interior, with the crew all wearing tng uniforms. would be sweet.
How about you let us CHOOSE THE BLOODY UNIFORMS!!??!? :mad:
Is that really too much to ask?
COSTUMES:
TNG dress uniforms.
Season 1 Skant
Season 1 pants
All TNG admiral uniforms.
BRIDGE PACK:
Main Bridge
Battle Bridge
Shuttle bay
Ten Forward
Captain's Quarters
Ready Room
Conference Room
Sickbay
Transporter Room
Engineering
Data's lab
Holodeck
Stellar Cartography
Any other rooms that were seen on the show
WEAPONS:
Type I phaser
The two type II phasers
Type III phaser rifle
The two shuttles and one shuttlepod seen frequently on the show.
Will they do all that? No, but it would be nice.
I would like to see ALL ship skin options available to ALL Galaxy class models as well.
Hopefully the admiral and season 1 uniforms would be part of the pack.
Poker is always asked for, I don't see why it couldn't be added in some way, or referenced, maybe with a dealer visor costume piece(even though I personally would like to see more non-human games in STO).
Klingon stuff is good too. I have a Work action figure and he's wearing that sweet coat, so that would be nice.
DOff missions would be cool.
And all this:
It would be a nice feature.My klingons would also like a gratitious emote-"Place foot on deceased foes chest, and dislodge Bat'leth from enemy's brainpan.":D
By the "All Ship Skin", I take it you are reffering to all the material types. We currently have 4 material types, and I'm still waiting for the devs to add the option for type 6 (the material that comes with the plus one ships), to be made available to "all" the other ships ingame.
My character Tsin'xing