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Season 7 - The End of Starbases and Fleets?
born2bwild1
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So has your Starbase ground to a Halt? Do your once active fleets feel like ghost towns?
Only 3 days into the new season and it seems like everything is "quickly GRINDING to a halt"
tell us how your Starbase is going.
Tell Us how when a new season goes live - has your fleet disappeared?
And that embassy thing - is that every going to get done in your fleet - and why do people want it?
So who's filling the dilthium now?
Only 3 days into the new season and it seems like everything is "quickly GRINDING to a halt"
tell us how your Starbase is going.
Tell Us how when a new season goes live - has your fleet disappeared?
And that embassy thing - is that every going to get done in your fleet - and why do people want it?
So who's filling the dilthium now?
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the changes to starbases have been better for everyone, as doff vendors give out doff types more evenly, dilithium requirements at tier 4 were lowered slightly and they no longer need greens and blues. chef and barman assignments dont require horrible foods and drinks. it was grinding to a halt before season 7 but now its all picked up again.
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Pretty much this for my Fleet as well. And actually, our Embassy is moving ahead at a good pace too atm.
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Yeah, that's right.
Much like critics will always find a way to criticise and attack the game?
I'm sorry but I couldnt resist :P
omg soooooo this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
system Lord Baal is dead
Which one could assume that is what Cryptic wanted to begin with.
This was always meant to be used by 25 people in a group (or more)...
Anyone trying to do it with less, is just bucking the system.
It can be done, but don't expect any sympathy for your attempt.
I have a solo/alt fleet which I got just for the extra Bank Slots...
Once in a while I drop a little bit of stuff into the Grinder, but I really don't expect to accomplish much with it.
Lack of confidence I'n cryptic the biggest factor
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system Lord Baal is dead
All Tier 1 with Sci only 1750 away from Tier 2; Eng not far behind at 20250 XP; and Mil running a close third at 19250 XP.
Here for the trip, not the destination.
aw the school poe poe is out every one run!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
system Lord Baal is dead
We don't mind if the base takes awhile to get to Tier 4 but even if we do this EVERY day it's going to take 2 months to get one area to T4. So 6 months to get them all. And then we'll need another 150k XP each group to get to T5. That's 18 months. Of running Fleet mark missions for an hour, every day. Every day we don't do it is another day to completion. And it's already going to take two years.
We've all but given up. The path ahead is just to daunting.
Actually, that's not true. We just did our Tier 4 science upgrade, I think it was 900k dilithium. We filled it in a day, normally that would have probably taken 3 or more days.
then your in a big fleet or some one has a big bank account
system Lord Baal is dead
3-5 on in the morning, 10-15 or so in the evening. I wouldn't consider it too huge, it's a Klingon fleet after all. Our sister federation fleet has 3-5x more people
Tks.
Reread original post and further,
Embassy, poking around at it, gonna give recruitment a shot for the extra doff assignment slots (more dil my boy!) and Rommy Boff, but those threat scaling sci consoles look intriguing....
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Dilithium, run those projects while building doffs back up, or sometimes no projects at all... oh my!
We went hard core at the start and soon realized that we'll get there when we get there, or not, just have fun doing it.
With Season 7, Starbase projects have gotten easier with the DOFF requirement being cut in half and the Bartender project no longer asking for Ale and Rotgut (BTW Cryptic, what you going to do with these missions now that nobody needs them?) Not to mention its easier to buy common fleet DOFFs and use them.
But when it comes to Embassies, we stopped after a few days. Because the Dilithium costs is just not in our favor as a small fleet. Even moreso the severe Costs that is involved with Tier 1's requirement, asking for 50 Uncommon Civilian DOFFs. (You realize how much Dilithium it's going to take just to ge 50 Uncommon Civilian DOFFs?)
Really disappointed Cryptic thinks so little of small fleets. So we are going play TOR F2P (for the story_ and only spending a few hours in STO for the Reputation system.
This.
I was actually optimistic that season 7 would be GOOD for the starbase because we would have missions that gave both dilithium and fleet marks. Obviously, things didn't quite work out how we thought they would.
Also speaking to several fleet leaders one of the reasons I have heard that things on the dilthium front are still moving is that lots of members cashed out HUGE amounts of Borg stuff for dilthium before the change and have a big backlog now - but how are things going to be in a few weeks when the wells start to run dry?
Should be interesting to follow.:P
The grind isn't too bad, and we are only a handful of active contributors to the fleet projects, most of our membership does not donate much, and that is okay, donations are not mandatory.
Season 7 is a'okay, requirements for Doffs and other items have gone down to be reasonable, Fleet Doffs are coming more balanced, and over all the Embassy projects don't seem that demanding.
We'll be Tier 5 sometime before Season 10, but that is fine, STO is a game after all.
Jim
Once clickers were removed this increased the strain 1000%. Season 7 was going to bring in competition for dilithium. Clicker removal made fleet marks a problem for fleets as well.
Even if players can go buy zen and convert it to dilithium there isnt a lot of replacement for fleet marks. And many players just do not like the fleet mark missions. For fleets under 25 active players the grind is horrific.
The common recurring thread for the last few seasons has been to drop something that would result in people needing to buy more stuff ie doff packs or to increase the grind.
It would be nice if they would release a season that made the game easier and more fun for the players. Constantly increasing the grind does not make it more fun for players. Holding more carrots to chase 6 inches in front of my nose does not mean Im eager to attend Mule Day if Im the one pulling the wagon.
I really dont think most players fully understood the screeching braking action of fleet progression once clickers, fleet marks, and dilithium was sharply curtailed in the game.
A lot of small fleets or groups of people had dreams of splitting from a fleet - opening a new one - and progressing. I think it was good for the game. Thats probably dying now. Even some of the larger 350+ member fleets that Im in are scratching their heads about sucky 7. The smaller ones under 15 members active are just almost resigning themselves to punting dreams of fleet base progression. It aint going to happen - ever. Even the guys that buy $100 worth of zen a month cant bully up enough fleet marks to move their starbase projects forward.... but wait ... might not be long till someone comes up with a fleet mark for zen exchange .... lol ....
Add to that and they are gating content behind these functionless space castles and you have players turning the fleet thing into a job - no wonder there are so many people going awol in fleets.
My main concern is not so much the dilithium, but the fleet marks - previously we could do some clickies to acquire marks to feed into the starbase (which was great, b/c aside from Role-playing with my guild, I'm not into doing quick MP shoot-em-up fleet actions or STFs). Without that the projects are just sitting there waiting on fleet marks
I can only imagine a few medium sized fleets or greater continuing to build, and a "strip-mall" effect on all the small fleet run stations mostly abandoned across the neutral zone.
My small fleet's starbase made its way almost to level 2... most likely we'll get there some day but I doubt we'll ever advance any further beyond.
Our base building went from "Hours instead of days! ... minutes instead of hours!" to months instead of days and years instead of month.
Is this a "whine"? No. It's the way it is - someone asked how it affected our fleets and I'm replying.
:mad:
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The 1 click dailies were a HUGE resource for us smaller fleets, not only in fleet marks but also a little shot of dilithium. Some people can only play for an hour or two during the week and the last thing they want to do it grind out resources for some sink system.
There definitely needs to be some type of "Alliance" system where we smaller fleets can pool our resources to help each other. I've still got over 500 fleet marks just sitting waiting to be used because it takes so long to grind out the dilithium needed for the projects, and I'm sure on the other hand there's someone on a another small fleet that probably has dilithium just sitting around or some other resource I don't have.
On top of all that we lost a huge EC resource in the STF loot drops as well. Why devote an entire season to this huge elaborate Fleet system only to sabotage it in the next season.
And to anyone that says just recruit more fleet members......yeah been trying. Everyone either wants in with the huge fleets or is still buying into Cryptic saying that small fleets can progress through the fleet system no problem.
One of the biggest aspects about Star Trek is the Mighty Federation of Planets, all working together for the betterment of all, well damn it Cryptic give us fleets some way of doing just that. You can't tell me with all the people you've got working for you now that you can't come up with some type of add-on to the fleet system were little to no exploitation of something like this could happen. For that matter I've got this to ask, When you're giving out information about fleet sizes and how you're looking over the data, are you looking at fleet sizes as a whole (including alts) or the actual amount of people without alts??
If nothing else make fleet marks and dilithium account bound but only transferable through shared bank space so you're getting your c-store micro-transaction for the account shared bank space from us f2p and give us a spot on the forums for fleet alliances and we'll do the rest.