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delsabereduxdelsaberedux Member Posts: 244 Arc User
So here's one really positive thing that I noticed about the Season 7 update: every system in the Tau Dewa sector block is free of asteroids. If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that's happened since launch.

For a relatively minor thing, it makes me really happy. Instead of millions of ugly floating rocks everywhere, we've got clear space and the occasional dust cloud to show directionality of movement. If only every other system in the game could be reworked the same way.

Also, it seems like the Azure nebula is visible from every system, with relative distance taken into account, which is a brilliant little detail.

Maybe I should just run all my missions from Tau Dewa from now on. :D
Relax.
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  • unangbangkayunangbangkay Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    *ahem*

    Dillithium dilithium grrr grrr Cryptic ripoff sellout Perfect World Vesta Ambassador T5 connie we're all getting ignored game will die in 3 months grind grind Z-store or C-store fix my bridge this isn't canon I want bridges I want skins feature episodes STFs FAs KDF PVP this ship is OP this ship is UP Battle Cloaks for all
  • delsabereduxdelsaberedux Member Posts: 244 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Don't forget to throw a Dervish in there, make it really old-school. :D

    Seriously though. Forests, trees. The actual content of S7 is really quite strong and deserves more props than it's been getting. We should be encouraging progress in whatever form it takes rather than constantly harping on the negatives, real or imagined.

    One more thing about these system missions: while many of them retain the usual MMO "kill 5 mobs" structure, those mobs now rush the player and NPC allies in waves, rather than spacing themselves out to be hunted down like all the others. I much prefer that setup since not only does it kill the tiresome "full impulse, battle, full impulse, rinse, repeat" routine of most combat dailies, but it also leads to some pretty hectic conflagrations of pew-pew, which is usually pretty rare outside of Fleet Actions and STFs.

    Again, I wish a lot of the older content could be reworked in this style.
    Relax.
  • unangbangkayunangbangkay Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2012

    Again, I wish a lot of the older content could be reworked in this style.

    Yeah, if I do want anything (like new Bridges), that would be it. Adding voice acting and cutscenes to some of the older feature episode chains would be cool.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Now if they fix the System to actually match with canon.

    The new Romulan Homeworld is south of the Neutral Zone, placing it in Klingon Territory. Several of the planet locations don't match up with maps that were shown on screen in TNG. And most of all, they put the Archer system in the wrong spot.

    Archer supposed to be 31 Light Years from Earth, which puts it in Regulus Sector. But Cryptic went with the Star Trek Star Charts that came before Enterprise.

    So whoever made the map, sure didn't do their research. :rolleyes:
  • unangbangkayunangbangkay Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    So whoever made the map, sure didn't do their research. :rolleyes:

    Or maybe they hated Enterprise.
  • delsabereduxdelsaberedux Member Posts: 244 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Star Trek has never been entirely consistent about its maps in or out of canon. I don't recall TNG ever showing us anything in detail, and if you're going by Okudagram stuff on monitors, then you'll have to canonize a ton of little in-jokes, too. ;)

    Besides, STO is a non-canon property along with everything else that isn't on a TV or movie screen, so as long as it meets with CBS approval, Cryptic could put Archer IV in Gamma Orionis if they really wanted to. A moot point anyway, since this Archer is a different system entirely according to the tooltip text.
    Relax.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Star Trek has never been entirely consistent about its maps in or out of canon. I don't recall TNG ever showing us anything in detail, and if you're going by Okudagram stuff on monitors, then you'll have to canonize a ton of little in-jokes, too. ;)

    Anything seen or mentioned in Star Trek is 100% canon.
    Besides, STO is a non-canon property along with everything else that isn't on a TV or movie screen, so as long as it meets with CBS approval, Cryptic could put Archer IV in Gamma Orionis if they really wanted to. A moot point anyway, since this Archer is a different system entirely according to the tooltip text.

    STO is based on the IP and Cryptic can't change Star Trek canon.

    Enterprise said the Archer System is 31 Light years away, guess what Cryptic has to put it 31 light years away.

    And BTW, the text clearly said that it's the system Archer visited in 2151.
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Thanks for keeping things less pay 2 win than SWTOR. I hope you keep that up at least. :P


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  • backyardserenadebackyardserenade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Now if they fix the System to actually match with canon.

    The new Romulan Homeworld is south of the Neutral Zone, placing it in Klingon Territory. Several of the planet locations don't match up with maps that were shown on screen in TNG. And most of all, they put the Archer system in the wrong spot.

    Archer supposed to be 31 Light Years from Earth, which puts it in Regulus Sector. But Cryptic went with the Star Trek Star Charts that came before Enterprise.

    If you read the description of the Archer system in-game, you might be delighted. ;)


    Also, most of the system's locations are based-off the star maps that were released a couple of years ago. Cryptic has pretty much adhered to these layouts from day one.
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  • temp3rustemp3rus Member Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The box a over the planet says its the second one to be named Archer, is the original one in the Regulas sector?
  • kingdoxykingdoxy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    *ahem*

    Dillithium dilithium grrr grrr Cryptic ripoff sellout Perfect World Vesta Ambassador T5 connie we're all getting ignored game will die in 3 months grind grind Z-store or C-store fix my bridge this isn't canon I want bridges I want skins feature episodes STFs FAs KDF PVP this ship is OP this ship is UP Battle Cloaks for all

    You forgot Lockbox, Lobi scam, everything is Z store, P2W, too many currency, Jack Emmert said..., PWE hates KDF, not real trek, Gene would be mad.
  • lostusthornlostusthorn Member Posts: 844
    edited November 2012
    Archer supposed to be 31 Light Years from Earth, which puts it in Regulus Sector. But Cryptic went with the Star Trek Star Charts that came before Enterprise.

    If they would go with what Enterprise said, it would place Qonus about 1 light year away from Sol....
  • kimjongpwekimjongpwe Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Artwork is great!

    The core game designs underlying this patch, however, can go suck a donkey.
  • gemackgemack Member Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Anything seen or mentioned in Star Trek is 100% canon.



    STO is based on the IP and Cryptic can't change Star Trek canon.

    Enterprise said the Archer System is 31 Light years away, guess what Cryptic has to put it 31 light years away.

    And BTW, the text clearly said that it's the system Archer visited in 2151.

    And how is this relevant to the game play?
  • evendzharevendzhar Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Anything seen or mentioned in Star Trek is 100% canon.
    If that's true, everyone in the Alpha quadrant loves Dirty Pair. Even the Iconians.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Star Trek has never been entirely consistent about its maps in or out of canon. I don't recall TNG ever showing us anything in detail, and if you're going by Okudagram stuff on monitors, then you'll have to canonize a ton of little in-jokes, too. ;)

    Besides, STO is a non-canon property along with everything else that isn't on a TV or movie screen, so as long as it meets with CBS approval, Cryptic could put Archer IV in Gamma Orionis if they really wanted to. A moot point anyway, since this Archer is a different system entirely according to the tooltip text.

    They went with the idea that there are multiple planets named after Archer, didn't they?

    (Which is also the J.J.-verse comics' explanation for Delta Vega. That there are multiple planets with that name.)
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Anything seen or mentioned in Star Trek is 100% canon.

    Not really. Especially when you look at ship scales in DS9 or the weird varying MSD for the Defiant.

    Canon is derived from the scripts. Stuff the writers weren't involved with, like Okudagrams, is basically in nebulous soft-canon territory. If you have to freeze frame and zoom to see it, it wasn't meant to be seen.

    That said, I wouldn't object to STO building on the personnel files from the Mirror episodes of Enterprise. Those actually established a lot about what happened to characters after the shows.

    For example:

    Kirk grew up on Tarsus IV, where Kodos the Executioner imposed eugenics based food rationing. Hoshi Sato and her family were killed there. It's an interesting notion that some of the tragedies from TOS claimed the Enterprise crew.

    The Shatnerverse has an interesting swerve on this that the food shortage was caused by a virus launched by an eco-terrorist movement that Sarek was a part of before turning his back on and that his Bendii syndrome was actually an assassination tool to silence him. It was one of the better Shatnerverse novels. The notion was that young Kirk, terrified by Kodos' police state, ran away and spied on Sarek. The eco-terrorists wanted to kill Kirk but Sarek intervened and mindmelded with him.

    In the mindmeld, Kirk picked up some of Sarek's repressed feelings for Spock. Sarek erased Kirk's conscious memory of the event but, in order to keep him from running off on his own (where it might be unsafe), implanted him with the telepathic suggestion that he would die alone. (Explaining the bit in STV.) Kirk lived his whole life with an added feeling of invincibility because he didn't feel like he would die as long as he was with people. In the Shatnerverse books, Kirk eventually learns all of this, forcing him to take mortality more seriously but also accepting that he didn't have to die alone, which enabled him to have more healthy friendships and relationships, get married, and settle down, setting the stage for the wackier events of the later books.

    I suppose if you accept this biographical detail, it also helps explain why J.J.-verse Kirk is so different, having been born in space and raised in Iowa.
  • atomictikiatomictiki Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I suppose if you accept this biographical detail, it also helps explain why J.J.-verse Kirk is so different, having been born in space and raised in Iowa.


    JJ Trek is so different because JJ Abrams is admittedly not a Trek fan. Which is why his movies TRIBBLE all over the franchise. He's a Star Wars fan.
    "Look, Star Wars is one of my favorite movies of all time," Abrams told Hollywood Life when asked about the rumors [of directed the Disney Star Wars films]. "I frankly feel that -- I almost feel that, in a weird way, the opportunity for whomever it is to direct that movie, it comes with the burden of being that kind of iconic movie and series. I was never a big Star Trek fan growing up, so for me, working on Star Trek didn't have any of that, you know, almost fatal sacrilege, and so, I am looking forward more [than] anyone to the next iterations of Star Wars, but I believe I will be going as a paying moviegoer!"
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