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I'm just wondering how many of you are still running STF's now the Dilithium rewards and loot bag have been removed.
Personally I don't see the point of running STF's for just the Omega marks....it doesn't get you anywhere any time soon.Big waste of time and patience in my opinion.
Personally I don't see the point of running STF's for just the Omega marks....it doesn't get you anywhere any time soon.Big waste of time and patience in my opinion.
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No reason to run them.
EDIT: Go figure, but posting in and reading the forums has been far more pleasant than actually getting in the game for me, lately. (Well, kinda anything has been more pleasant, in fact.)
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I've run 9, and I think I'm done for a while unless something changes for the positive. There's simply no reason to do them now on my main. I have a bunch of Omega Marks which I'll log in every 2 days to use up while I try and pay the ransom Cryptic's holding for my stuff-in-a-crate.
I have one science alt with whom I'll probably run the odd STF when I get the urge, just to laugh at how they all swarm around gravity wells like a washing machine.
But, as for being my reason to log into the game, STFs are dead.
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Just... only because I have to. Which is the root of the problem with this whole thing. I used to want to. Not anymore.
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I played a couple...turns out there was no sense to continue.
Before S7 it was actually rewarding.
I don't know what to do now.
The reward system is broken and you're left with a choice between helping your Fleet or helping yourself.
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There's no reason to run the STFs, though.
Until later tiers, the projects cost very, very few Omega Marks. I think they cost, what... 17 and 8 for the first two projects? And you get 75 from running ISE once. Run that once a day maybe, and you'll never have to worry about marks unless the future projects start costing hundreds or thousands.
At present, it's just not worth the time to do it.
not really... nope.
Nope, not worth doing stfs or the Omega Rep. If you no longer really do Borg content, you no longer need the Borg Omega Rep or the gear within its grind
Had they allowed us to get Omega Marks and the Bnp's from other non stf content, it might have been a different story....
What's the point of having 'stuff' in the stores if you have no Dilithium to buy it?And the powers are nice.....but so far I have managed to play without them,I'll be just fine.
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At this very moment you can get 1440 dilithium from a 5-10 minute fleet action. That is until the whiners had their victory* with STFs getting dilithium rewards back and fleet actions getting more then halved.
*Victory for cryptic anyway, since they've just made dilithium grinding harder.
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I think this is also a chronic problem with STO.
Looking at War-craft as an example, its content tiers up and up -- you do Tier 1 to get gear so you're strong enough to hit Tier 2, so you're strong enough to hit Tier 3, etc.
In STO, there's nowhere to go once you've got Mk XII gear. If you've got full Mk XI gear, you can already pretty much overpower all current content, even Elite STFs (if your whole group has Mk XI gear in Elite STFs, they become sooo easy). The standout exception to this would be the new Into The Hive ground and space STFs, since they're ridiculously difficult to complete... yet you really don't have to ever do them since they don't drop unique rewards and have no accolades attached to them.
So, at present, there's really no reason to have Mk XII gear, except to just blow things up slightly quicker, rather than tackling tougher challenges.
If they had released new STFs that dropped Mk XIII gear, and you needed at least full sets of Mk XI to stand a chance, then people would have a reason to run them.
On the other hand, if they did release content that dropped Mk XIII or even Mk IV gear, players would be stuck behind several weeks of time-gated Omega reputation projects in order to get into new projects, most of that time spent sitting on your hands watching a clock count down.
It may be the hip thing to rag on War-craft in some places, but their system works. Those devs are pros at dangling carrots in front of their players, and it wouldn't hurt for Cryptic to take a few notes. A fun game (and I still love STO's space combat) plus an effective carrot, and they'd have players playing their game a lot more than I think they are right now.
EDIT:
I forgot that Cryptic censored War-craft...
Have I been running other missions more often than I used to? Absolutely!
Have I been looking for the purple glowing optional reward canister every time we've aced the mission. Hell yes! Just feels wrong not getting any loot (besides the OMs & 1 BNP). Just one very rare Mk 12 drop for a successful optional (in addition to the bonus OMs) would just feel better. Mk 11 drop for missing optional.
Will I continue to run STF elites? ... yea, I imgine so.
What's missing though is the Dilithuim!!! STFs represent a significant accomplishment in time, ability and cooperation/coordination. This alone should merit some kind of dilithuim component. I understand the explanation behind the STF dilithuim changes. I heartily disagree with them. I feel 480 normal / 960 elite is more than appropriate.
Still, this must be said in closing. STO is their sandbox, not mine. My choice to stay and play and even pay. The day I can no longer stand their rules for their sandbox, I get out.
No,a good company would have balanced the rewards in such a way the player can choose what content to play to earn his or her Dilithium in the way the player wants.
Don't blame the people for asking just that,blame Cryptic for being greedy and sucking all the fun out of the game.
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I totally agree, I ran STF's solely for the purpose of Dilthium and Loot drops, both for my dil cap for the day and to convert drops into EC. . Now that is gone and I have no interest in running FA's with cooldowns for the drops I once got. .
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(Note: I sure won't like it as much as before Season 7. No more random EC loot, no more random Borg loot.)
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
I did Hive just to check it out. We beat it but soooooooo not worth an extra 30 Omega Marks.
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True, but none of this qualifies as playing, in my book. STFs do.
(Note: I pretty much do all of the above - maybe except the dancing - but without any reason to play STFs, I'd have nothing left here to actually play on regular basis --> Doing something else with my free time.)
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
I'm not happy with the decision to nerf the Dilithium rewards on Fleet Actions by that much (from 1440 to 480:eek:) though,that really is overkill.
The guys (and girls) at Cryptic should read a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word 'balance'.
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Most likely I'll stick to normals unless a good team needs me for an elite or two in the future and when i need the BNP's.
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My next gate is in 1:24 and I already have the marks so not much to do really.
I guess I could go farm 400,000 dil for a new ship but what's the point
I'll adapt when I'll be able to get my Borg Neural Processor -- Picard Style !
WHAT ?
You thought Picard completed an STF and got his as an award ?? :cool: