i would be interested in knowing what do you think is the best 5 ships and what is the bottom 5 ships currently in STO? i would exclude tier 1 & 2 ships, but leave in tier 3 ships primarily becasue of the defiant.
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1) Excelsior - for a Tac it's simply a wonderful cruiser.
2) Kar'fi (KDF but you didn't specify faction) - a great ship for KDF Sci's - incredible fun.
3) Peghqu' - a little weak on the shields front but it's versatile, unique and the Battle Cloak makes it superior to the Chimera.
4) Chimera - again, versatile and unique - a lot of fun irrespective of profession.
5) K't'inga Retrofit/Fleet K't'inga - there's 'better' ships but nothing with as much old-school charm except...
6) Exeter with Constitution Refit skin - just because...
And as you may have gathered - I don't like Escorts
Bottom 5?
1) Odyssey in all its variants - too slow and lumbering for my taste.
2) Defiant Retrofit - I have one, I fly it occasionally, I hate it.
3) Sovereign - just - meh. I want to like it but it doesn't do anything particularly well.
4) Vor'cha Retrofit - similar complaint to the Sovvy - at first I liked it but irrespective of profession you end up with similar builds. Reliable but oh so vanilla.
5) Any of the Galaxy variants - just awful, awful ships.
i like the way the star cruiser looks and i seriously regret getting it. there is nothing you can do to make it good.
i may have to make room for a new ship and the star cruiser is probably the one if so.
I've never actually flown a star cruiser but every time I've seen one in a PUG I've wanted to throw the person flying it out the window.
So. That's why.
Edit: Though I did see, and getting off topic here, a rainbow-boat Atrox who refused to use small-craft. That was the worst. But almost every star cruiser I've seen has been abysmal.
I won't count lockbox/drop ships since I've never gotten one (Must...buy more...reinforcement packs!), here are mine:
Favorite (I mostly go by looks and "fun-to-play" rather than performance.)
1. Armitage - Had more fun in this ship than any other, and it combines the cool hotdog-bun saucer with the badass Akira layout. Also, the torpedo PDS is the best thing ever.
2. Chimera - Have yet to optimize it, but it's got the best gimmicks to gawp at. And a fish-face deflector is fun stuff.
3. Patrol Escort - Pretty much an Armitage without small craft, I love how much unlike any other feddie ship it looks. The Maelstrom Skin + Dervish Hull = lovely
4. Research Science Vessel - Considering how much combat there is in STO's war-torn galaxy, it's just hilarious to see the nerdiest-looking ship in Starfleet totally wrecking up fleets in the story missions.
5. Odyssey - It's the Enterprise! If I'm going to let any ship eclipse the sun, it'll be this behemoth. Playing with the basic free Oddy they gave out at the anniversary event was the most fun I've had in a cruiser, mainly because the ship's durability helps overcome my inability to play cruisers with any skill. Until I spring for an Atrox or Recluse, this is the only place I want to put beam arrays.
Honorary Mention: Vesta - I like the look, and it's probably OP as all hell (good for me when I buy it!) but it's not fair just to throw it in this list when it's not even out.
Least Favorite (I won't say "Worst" because this is mostly based on looks and "fun to play"):
1. Excelsior (Tier 3 version, not the Retrofit) - The first C-store purchase I regretted, because it taught me that I don't like how most cruisers play (pre-Odyssey). Honestly, I like the way the Excelsior looks, so this is really me being butthurt that a ship I can't fly well looks cool. Also, I'm super butthurt that the Retrofit version is still apparently one of the best ships in the Federation. I can't stand the idea that a 130-year-old design is outperforming the majority of spiffy new ships. Please, Cryptic, at least make a modernized version of the Excelsior skin so we can pretend it's a current model!
2. Regent - Another regret, because I spent 2500Z on this after I forgot that the only cruiser I like is my Oddy. Too slow for me to play like an escort, too squishy for me to play like an Oddy. It's pretty, though, and the wide-angle torpedo and metreon gas gimmicks are good times.
3. Deep Space Science Vessel - It's funny and a little sad that besides the Patrol Escort this is one of the more unique vessel designs in Starfleet compared to the rest, but once again, as the space whale of Science Vessels, I simply can't put it to decent use. Maybe picking up a Mirror Recon Science Vessel (which looks exactly like this one) will allow me to cross the gap.
4. NX-01 Replica - Despite it being a prequel ship, it looks more modern than the ships that came after, which I suppose is part of the reason why Enterprise was bad. That said, it does look good. Too bad its low-TRIBBLE tier makes it not a great escort, since at its level most players won't be capable to playing with escort equipment or using escort tactics. Kind of a wasted opportunity, except for that grapple.
5. B'Rel BoP (starter version) - This isn't so much a knock against the BoP as it is a protest against the fact that the BoP is the very first ship Klink players get, and they end up playing it for quite a while until they get something new. Cryptic needs to rework the Klink campaign to offer starting KDF players a taste of what makes Klink ships different, how raptors, BoPs, cruisers and carriers play differently from the Escorts, SVs and Cruisers they're used to.
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Comments
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Galaxy-R
Galaxy-X
1. jem bug
2. fleet defiant
3. fleet mvae/mobius
4. fleet reconnaissance science vessel/chimera
5. recluse carrier
bottom:
- sao paulo
-- gal-x
--- gal-r
2) Kar'fi (KDF but you didn't specify faction) - a great ship for KDF Sci's - incredible fun.
3) Peghqu' - a little weak on the shields front but it's versatile, unique and the Battle Cloak makes it superior to the Chimera.
4) Chimera - again, versatile and unique - a lot of fun irrespective of profession.
5) K't'inga Retrofit/Fleet K't'inga - there's 'better' ships but nothing with as much old-school charm except...
6) Exeter with Constitution Refit skin - just because...
And as you may have gathered - I don't like Escorts
Bottom 5?
1) Odyssey in all its variants - too slow and lumbering for my taste.
2) Defiant Retrofit - I have one, I fly it occasionally, I hate it.
3) Sovereign - just - meh. I want to like it but it doesn't do anything particularly well.
4) Vor'cha Retrofit - similar complaint to the Sovvy - at first I liked it but irrespective of profession you end up with similar builds. Reliable but oh so vanilla.
5) Any of the Galaxy variants - just awful, awful ships.
interesting that you have the defiant rated higher than mvae & mobius. why is that? thanks.
Fleet Defiant
Fleet Recon Sci vessel (may be replaced by vesta soon)
Odyssey
Fleet Advanced Escort
Fleet Patrol escort
KDF
1.Fleet Torhkat
2. Fleet Hoh'sus BOP
3. Karfi carrier
4. B'rel BOP
5. Tac or command Bortasqu
Lockbox ships are good so no need to list them here.
Forgot my bad list, here it is
deep space science
Galaxy-r and Galaxy-x
Aquarius
Fleet Norgh BOP
Atrox
1- wells
2- the bug
3- m?bius
4- orb weaver
5- fleet defiant
Bad list
1- Aquarius
2- fleet deep space science
3- fleet saber (to week of hull)
4- intrepid retro (should have a better turn)
5- galaxy retro
1. Jem'Hadar Bug
2. D'Kora/Galor
3. Mobius/Wells
4. Recluse
5. Orb Weaver
Bottom 5, from best to worst:
1. Atrox Carrier
2. Assault Cruiser
3. Aquarius Destroyer
4. Galaxy-X/Galaxy-R
5. Star Cruiser
you know i left the d'kora and galor out of my top 5, but you sir are correct. those are darn good ships.
i like the way the star cruiser looks and i seriously regret getting it. there is nothing you can do to make it good.
i may have to make room for a new ship and the star cruiser is probably the one if so.
So. That's why.
Edit: Though I did see, and getting off topic here, a rainbow-boat Atrox who refused to use small-craft. That was the worst. But almost every star cruiser I've seen has been abysmal.
Favorite (I mostly go by looks and "fun-to-play" rather than performance.)
1. Armitage - Had more fun in this ship than any other, and it combines the cool hotdog-bun saucer with the badass Akira layout. Also, the torpedo PDS is the best thing ever.
2. Chimera - Have yet to optimize it, but it's got the best gimmicks to gawp at. And a fish-face deflector is fun stuff.
3. Patrol Escort - Pretty much an Armitage without small craft, I love how much unlike any other feddie ship it looks. The Maelstrom Skin + Dervish Hull = lovely
4. Research Science Vessel - Considering how much combat there is in STO's war-torn galaxy, it's just hilarious to see the nerdiest-looking ship in Starfleet totally wrecking up fleets in the story missions.
5. Odyssey - It's the Enterprise! If I'm going to let any ship eclipse the sun, it'll be this behemoth. Playing with the basic free Oddy they gave out at the anniversary event was the most fun I've had in a cruiser, mainly because the ship's durability helps overcome my inability to play cruisers with any skill. Until I spring for an Atrox or Recluse, this is the only place I want to put beam arrays.
Honorary Mention: Vesta - I like the look, and it's probably OP as all hell (good for me when I buy it!) but it's not fair just to throw it in this list when it's not even out.
Least Favorite (I won't say "Worst" because this is mostly based on looks and "fun to play"):
1. Excelsior (Tier 3 version, not the Retrofit) - The first C-store purchase I regretted, because it taught me that I don't like how most cruisers play (pre-Odyssey). Honestly, I like the way the Excelsior looks, so this is really me being butthurt that a ship I can't fly well looks cool. Also, I'm super butthurt that the Retrofit version is still apparently one of the best ships in the Federation. I can't stand the idea that a 130-year-old design is outperforming the majority of spiffy new ships. Please, Cryptic, at least make a modernized version of the Excelsior skin so we can pretend it's a current model!
2. Regent - Another regret, because I spent 2500Z on this after I forgot that the only cruiser I like is my Oddy. Too slow for me to play like an escort, too squishy for me to play like an Oddy. It's pretty, though, and the wide-angle torpedo and metreon gas gimmicks are good times.
3. Deep Space Science Vessel - It's funny and a little sad that besides the Patrol Escort this is one of the more unique vessel designs in Starfleet compared to the rest, but once again, as the space whale of Science Vessels, I simply can't put it to decent use. Maybe picking up a Mirror Recon Science Vessel (which looks exactly like this one) will allow me to cross the gap.
4. NX-01 Replica - Despite it being a prequel ship, it looks more modern than the ships that came after, which I suppose is part of the reason why Enterprise was bad. That said, it does look good. Too bad its low-TRIBBLE tier makes it not a great escort, since at its level most players won't be capable to playing with escort equipment or using escort tactics. Kind of a wasted opportunity, except for that grapple.
5. B'Rel BoP (starter version) - This isn't so much a knock against the BoP as it is a protest against the fact that the BoP is the very first ship Klink players get, and they end up playing it for quite a while until they get something new. Cryptic needs to rework the Klink campaign to offer starting KDF players a taste of what makes Klink ships different, how raptors, BoPs, cruisers and carriers play differently from the Escorts, SVs and Cruisers they're used to.
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