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lordfuzun
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An open letter to the developers.
This thread will probably get buried amongst the everything else about Season 7. But I have to get this off my chest. Simply said credit player who having diligently doing STF is quest for the Mk XII gear piece with Omega Reputation. Give the most diligent players Tier 5 from the very start. And scale it down from there. According to you, some players have been trying for a year, or more, trying to complete those Mk XII sets. Locking them out for 2-3 more months (or more) of of getting Mk XII equipment is punishment to those players.
Let me give a highly improbably hypothetical, but one that clearly makes my point. Player John doe is a casual player. He can play 2 or 3 times a week for an hour, maybe more. He knows under the current system, it would be a miracle for him to get a Mk XII set, so he settles for getting a Mk XI set. John has been working on doing STF when he can and has gotten 2 pieces of his Mk XI set. He's quite please with his progress.
On the night before Season 7 goes live he's working on getting those last 40 EDCs so he can complete his Mk XI set. He's up to 39 EDC and it's getting late. He's close, but he need to get up and go to work tomorrow. He's finish up with once more STF tomorrow or the next day.
Season goes lives. He's STF currencies are converted go locked away from his use. He's in a few days later, see Season 7 is launched, starts patching up his game client and reading the patch notes (or maybe not). But eventually he finds out those 39 EDC have been locked up out of his reach. He finds out from a new site or the forums, he got to way 60 days to reach Tier 5 of Omega Reputation before he can access STF currencies again. That's 60 days if you log in virtually every day to make progress. But John can't login every day. He's got 2 or 3 days a week at most. So that's 90, 120, or 180 or more.
He's got a wait months before he can complete his Mk XI set. Now, how do you think John feels about that. I know how I would feel about that. And it's not a positive emotion.
Thank for your time in reading this.
This thread will probably get buried amongst the everything else about Season 7. But I have to get this off my chest. Simply said credit player who having diligently doing STF is quest for the Mk XII gear piece with Omega Reputation. Give the most diligent players Tier 5 from the very start. And scale it down from there. According to you, some players have been trying for a year, or more, trying to complete those Mk XII sets. Locking them out for 2-3 more months (or more) of of getting Mk XII equipment is punishment to those players.
Let me give a highly improbably hypothetical, but one that clearly makes my point. Player John doe is a casual player. He can play 2 or 3 times a week for an hour, maybe more. He knows under the current system, it would be a miracle for him to get a Mk XII set, so he settles for getting a Mk XI set. John has been working on doing STF when he can and has gotten 2 pieces of his Mk XI set. He's quite please with his progress.
On the night before Season 7 goes live he's working on getting those last 40 EDCs so he can complete his Mk XI set. He's up to 39 EDC and it's getting late. He's close, but he need to get up and go to work tomorrow. He's finish up with once more STF tomorrow or the next day.
Season goes lives. He's STF currencies are converted go locked away from his use. He's in a few days later, see Season 7 is launched, starts patching up his game client and reading the patch notes (or maybe not). But eventually he finds out those 39 EDC have been locked up out of his reach. He finds out from a new site or the forums, he got to way 60 days to reach Tier 5 of Omega Reputation before he can access STF currencies again. That's 60 days if you log in virtually every day to make progress. But John can't login every day. He's got 2 or 3 days a week at most. So that's 90, 120, or 180 or more.
He's got a wait months before he can complete his Mk XI set. Now, how do you think John feels about that. I know how I would feel about that. And it's not a positive emotion.
Thank for your time in reading this.
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If so I agree, because I am in that boat with mk xii psg and armour for two toons and been trying for a while to get the gun. I'd feel gutted having to grind all the way up past tonnes of gear that would be useless to me as I already have it, just to get the missing bit of equipment.
What Cryptic should consider before releasing anything.
That said having looked over the rep tree, seen the new abilities rewarded by the system, I can accept that they want fresh efforts to get them. I do agree that the boxing of rewards is a less then ideal solution, and that players should not have their previous rewards taken away, doing so invalidates their efforts. Now I understand their not really taken away they are just held in trust, and that there is "interest" in the form of bonus dilithium rewarded when they are returned. But lets face it, tier 5 is going to be 2-3 months off for hardcore players. John Doe, getting in 3-4 hours a week, is probably looking at 3-4 months probably a little longer, depending on how long he's played and how well he knows the game.
So unless that bonus, is substantial I can't see how this method of conversion is a good idea, from the players stand point.
It is game player that player have spent thousands of player hours doing. I dear say that there are more than just a few player who have earned Tier 5 in the Omega Reputation System many times over. Those player an other should be credited with an appropriate level of reputation along with the commiserate system rewards.
Let me repeat Omega Fleet (i.e. STFs) game play is NOT new. Player should be credited an appropriate amount of Reputation in proportion to their STF game play. All the who up to Tier 5.
No, not quite what I'm trying to say. I'm saying that player should be granted scaled rewards as to how much effort they have made in playing STFs. I don't want to depend on how lucky some players get. That would be unfair to players who have been trying for months or more.
The most logical measure would be using the trackers that the accolade system uses. Ally an appropriate weight to Normal and Elite STFs, total then and them award reputation based on the net total.
I disagree with you on this. The new system is very fair for new player. It's is very determinate. Player know exactly now much they need to put into the system in order to get exactly what they want. The old system was determinate for Mk X and XI gear, if didn't' get luck with a drop before hand. But Mk XII gear is a purely a roll of the dice. You didn't know if you needed 3 STF or 3000 before you get the 3 needed drops.
This system supposed to be easier for those to get their STF Sets, yet those same people that they are helping, they told them they can't have their sets and have to wait longer to unlock them and them pay 34000-36000 Dilithium per Set, on top of the 3 new set Pieces and MK12 Borg weapons. And to add insult to injury, their savings are locked up.
So its like a Family Guy episode where kicking someone between the legs is supposed to be good for them. :rolleyes:
Would've been better if the system supplemented the existing STF runs and accounted for the work done. But Cryptic can't keep reinventing the wheel (STFs) every two seasons.
Secondly, we don't know the prices for the lower mark gear, everyone keeps talking about the "holy grail Mk XIIs". Only sucky part about their current plans is that the conversion payout for the 39 EDCs that are trapped up in the box won't pop until Tier V (and the two month warning) is hit, but if I was facing that, I'd be seriously considering spending 30 EDCs on the Dilithium boxes and letting the last 9 go into the box for dilth/marks later rather than letting all 39 get locked up unless it gives me enough to get a Mk XII part straight off on day 1 of tier V...
Third off, at the mythical "one left" point, I'd be tempted to run one last normal even though I should be sleeping rather than let all that work go to waste...
To rob a line: [quote: Mariemaia Kushrenada] Forum Posting is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever. However, opinions will change upon the reading of my post.[/quote]
Having people start at max rep I think is stupid, and even though I have multiple Mk XII sets already, I don't want to start at max rep. I'm looking forward to actually having something to do :P
Kirk's Protege.
Better yet, wait until it is live and we will see the reaction when everybody finds out their stuff is sitting in a box waiting for "one day."
Good times had by all...
I personally like the idea of the system but agree that there needs to be some credit for what players have accomplished already. I'd say look at their equipment sets but that is one issues that is attempting to be resolved by this system. Instead, look at their ribbons for running the missions (silver star, etc.). I agree with not auto maxing them out, but someone with the medal of honor doesn't need to be starting at the bottom either. They might get a t4 rating at the start, silver star gets t2, etc. They have indeed been grinding all this time to get gear, put them that much closer to their reward.
The other issue I have is that the system should only require resources obtained on the missions that award omega marks. If it takes dilithium and provisions, then the missions should be handing those out at a rate to completely satisfy the reputation projects. I should not have to go outside the missions to complete these reputation projects, as they are specific to the omega content, not the "farm for provisions" content. If you want to give me enough energy credits to buy the things, that's fine too. Just don't make the project requirements more than what I have been doing to get the gear, which is run STFs and other future omega mark generating content.
Good take on solving the issue, just tweak these to get credit to players where earned (both future and past) and it'll go over quite well I think.
Crandall out
Founder and Current CO of Gamma Strike Force
Player since December 2009
I will only get 4k dil for all the stuff I have, 3k omega marks, and 12 neural processors.
I could get a whole lot more dil if I turned everything in. I might do that.
Also, dil requirement has been removed from personal reputation systems. I don't think anyone will be complaining about that {:0)
I don't mind going for the gear from ground zero if I get a ton of dil instead. I just let the stuff pile up because I didn't need anything if I wasn't getting a whole set of something.
Sure, I've bashed my face against Infected Ground Elite plenty to get the PSG, but I might prefer the dil, at least until I have some idea what 3k marks and 12 neural processors mean.
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There is the adapted MACO/Honor Guard STF set and the Borg Space Set Mk XII to obtain for Season 7 if you want to get them all.