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Conversion rates for EDC and Salvage?

jackdonnerjackdonner Member Posts: 13 Arc User
edited November 2012 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Did i miss the post about Conversion rates for EDC and salvage, or has Cryptic not posted this info yet? Seems like i read somewhere a couple weeks ago it was going to be posted soon. Being that test weekend is coming up, i would hope they post this info before then.
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  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Nope Vesta stats can be posted *subject to change [which won't happen because of time restraints]. But posting: How we plan to grab your Dilithium reserves, clearly requires a more fine-tuned approach.
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  • latinumbarlatinumbar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The official conversion rate will not be posted. However, you can see your personal conversion by copying your character over this weekend.
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  • asthalothasthaloth Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    A dev posted about a week ago - The info will not be posted because it will be a player by player basis for conversion.
    I can't remember the reasoning exactly, but it was something like some people having enough EDC (etc) to max out the tier 5 stuff under their old flat rate conversion, I believe.


    In other words, I just sold it all for Dilithium, and will probably miss out on some super duty officer they haven't mentioned yet ;)
  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    latinumbar wrote: »
    The official conversion rate will not be posted. However, you can see your personal conversion by copying your character over this weekend.

    got anything to back that up with, how do we know that it is not going to get changed. Didn't Stahl himself promise a post on this
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  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    asthaloth wrote: »
    A dev posted about a week ago - The info will not be posted because it will be a player by player basis for conversion.
    I can't remember the reasoning exactly, but it was something like some people having enough EDC (etc) to max out the tier 5 stuff under their old flat rate conversion, I believe.


    In other words, I just sold it all for Dilithium, and will probably miss out on some super duty officer they haven't mentioned yet ;)

    are you telling me they are going to convert every single account by hand. Or do you think they are going to use a formula, and are just repeating the bad practice of the F2P conversion with not telling people how much of their saved-up in game currencies are going to get vaporized.
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  • nyniknynik Member Posts: 1,628 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    havam wrote: »
    got anything to back that up with, how do we know that it is not going to get changed. Didn't Stahl himself promise a post on this
    dastahl wrote: »
    ... It is fair warning that since those stores are going away, you have the opportunity to cash it all out for Dilithium or Gear now. Once the conversion code is in place, you can even log into Tribble and see how many Omega Marks and Borg Neural Processors and Dilithiium you'll get if you don't so that you are well informed before you make that decision....

    If you choose to wait and not spend it, then we will convert it in our best attempt to be fair and equitable to give you similar purchasing power in the new system, but only after you have obtained the proper rank....
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=6246071&postcount=252
  • jackdonnerjackdonner Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I could have sworn i read a post about 2 weeks ago, someone had started asking if they should keep their salvage and EDC, or sell it all off. I also thought Branflakes had stated, to wait untill the conversion rates were posted before deciding. I dont remember drinking that day, so i dont think im mistaken, but i guess i could be.
  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    asthaloth wrote: »
    A dev posted about a week ago - The info will not be posted because it will be a player by player basis for conversion.
    I can't remember the reasoning exactly, but it was something like some people having enough EDC (etc) to max out the tier 5 stuff under their old flat rate conversion, I believe.


    In other words, I just sold it all for Dilithium, and will probably miss out on some super duty officer they haven't mentioned yet ;)
    nynik wrote: »
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=6246071&postcount=252

    Gotcha, thanks. I guess we'll have to figure the rate out ourselves. Just hope that the container i ll receive at Rep T5 will actually have a description of what is in it, since hitting T5 in just under 1h is simply impossible.
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  • nyniknynik Member Posts: 1,628 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I could probably fish out a quote on that too Havam, but it suffices to say, that the container will apparently have the amounts listed in it's description before we open it (not that we can open it).

    Interestingly as well, there was also a mention by Borticus about a possible token that was/is or may be developed which would unlock T5 for players on tribble - allowing testing of reputation powers. I wonder if that will feature in the weekend tribble test.
  • jackdonnerjackdonner Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Originally Posted by dastahl
    ... It is fair warning that since those stores are going away, you have the opportunity to cash it all out for Dilithium or Gear now. Once the conversion code is in place, you can even log into Tribble and see how many Omega Marks and Borg Neural Processors and Dilithiium you'll get if you don't so that you are well informed before you make that decision....

    If you choose to wait and not spend it, then we will convert it in our best attempt to be fair and equitable to give you similar purchasing power in the new system, but only after you have obtained the proper rank....

    Thanks for this info, however i do not know how to access the test server, or even if a Silver player can. So i guess ill have to try to find someone who has access to the test server, that will post the rates for the rest of us.
  • nyniknynik Member Posts: 1,628 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    jackdonner wrote: »
    Thanks for this info, however i do not know how to access the test server, or even if a Silver player can. So i guess ill have to try to find someone who has access to the test server, that will post the rates for the rest of us.
    How do I access one of the Public Test Servers and transfer a character to it?

    - Navigate to http://sto.perfectworld.com/community/tribble-test and log in with your Account Name/Password

    - Read through the information on the page and click the 'Sign up!' button at the bottom

    - Select a character you wish to transfer from the "Character" drop-down menu and select which Test Server you want from the "Server" drop-down menu

    - Click 'Copy Character'

    - Open the STO launcher, log in with your Account Name/Password, and select either Tribble or Redshirt from the drop-down menu located at the lower left of the launcher

    - Once patching is complete, click 'Engage'

    https://support.perfectworld.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4135

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  • verlaine11verlaine11 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    jackdonner wrote: »
    Thanks for this info, however i do not know how to access the test server, or even if a Silver player can. So i guess ill have to try to find someone who has access to the test server, that will post the rates for the rest of us.

    If you go to the top of this forum and click on My Account , on the left hand side it should say Transfer Character - that will copy a chosen character onto Tribble for you

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  • joshl7889joshl7889 Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    jackdonner wrote: »
    Thanks for this info, however i do not know how to access the test server, or even if a Silver player can. So i guess ill have to try to find someone who has access to the test server, that will post the rates for the rest of us.

    u can. im a silver and i have toons over on tribble. go to My account and click character transfer. it will bring up a screen where u choose the toons u want to transfer, then u will need to patch up ur game to the most up to date tribble patch, which is should do automatically i believe.
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  • brigadooombrigadooom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Can't help but wonder why they won't post the formula/algorithm for the wider community to see, rather than the smaller subset that will take the time to patch up Tribble and transfer a character.

    I hope some enterprising and mathematically astute player(s) will start up a thread to record details on the amounts of Marks and Processors players get converted from EDCs, protos etc :o
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  • jackdonnerjackdonner Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Thanks for info on getting into Tribble everyone. Ill sign up.
  • veryth12veryth12 Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    brigadooom wrote: »
    Can't help but wonder why they won't post the formula/algorithm for the wider community to see, rather than the smaller subset that will take the time to patch up Tribble and transfer a character.

    I hope some enterprising and mathematically astute player(s) will start up a thread to record details on the amounts of Marks and Processors players get converted from EDCs, protos etc :o

    It is probably because they have a sliding scale for the conversion so one range you ge one reward, a different range you get a different reward. They likely do not want to share because if you knew that conversion you could find a spot where you could cash out some without changing the amounts they and converted to.

    An easier example: Say, if conversion X is given for anywhere between 50 to 100 EDCs, then if you have 78 EDCs you know you could cash up to 28 of them out without changing what you will receive when it is converted.

    That and the conversion system has to basically have every possible combination scenario of EDCs, Salvage, and the various M.A.C.O./Honor Guard/Omega tokens, so it could be fairly confusing.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
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    edited November 2012
    veryth12 wrote: »
    It is probably because they have a sliding scale for the conversion so one range you ge one reward, a different range you get a different reward. They likely do not want to share because if you knew that conversion you could find a spot where you could cash out some without changing the amounts they and converted to.

    An easier example: Say, if conversion X is given for anywhere between 50 to 100 EDCs, then if you have 78 EDCs you know you could cash up to 28 of them out without changing what you will receive when it is converted.

    That and the conversion system has to basically have every possible combination scenario of EDCs, Salvage, and the various M.A.C.O./Honor Guard/Omega tokens, so it could be fairly confusing.

    I'd prefer to just auto-convert in some ways... except that the auto-conversion places the converted materials in a box that can't be accessed until you hit T5.
  • tobar26thtobar26th Member Posts: 799 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    jackdonner wrote: »
    Did i miss the post about Conversion rates for EDC and salvage, or has Cryptic not posted this info yet? Seems like i read somewhere a couple weeks ago it was going to be posted soon. Being that test weekend is coming up, i would hope they post this info before then.

    Dan Stahl has assured us that we'll be able to try it out on Tribble before S7 goes live, I suspect given we're due a patch today before the test weekend we'll see it today.

    Try it out, see what you reckon. I hate to say it but as they're doing the whole 'can't give an exact formula' system like they did with the Dilithium conversion I fear we're going to get done over, but time will tell.
  • warrenjameswarrenjames Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    tobar26th wrote: »
    Dan Stahl has assured us that we'll be able to try it out on Tribble before S7 goes live, I suspect given we're due a patch today before the test weekend we'll see it today.

    Try it out, see what you reckon. I hate to say it but as they're doing the whole 'can't give an exact formula' system like they did with the Dilithium conversion I fear we're going to get done over, but time will tell.


    The only reason I can think of for them to do this is that they have a diminishing returns formula, and don't want people hoarding the optimal amount of tokens, then selling the rest off for dilithium before the conversion. Dan Stahl keeps responding with "You'll be able to see how much stuff you'll get on Tribble, so you can make an informed decision!"

    The problem is that we can't make a truly informed decision unless we know how those numbers came about...
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
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    edited November 2012
    warrenjames wrote: »
    The only reason I can think of for them to do this is that they have a diminishing returns formula, and don't want people hoarding the optimal amount of tokens, then selling the rest off for dilithium before the conversion. Dan Stahl keeps responding with "You'll be able to see how much stuff you'll get on Tribble, so you can make an informed decision!"

    The problem is that we can't make a truly informed decision unless we know how those numbers came about...

    There's one way we can do this as a community. Copy characters. Compare results. Reverse engineer the formula.
  • warrenjameswarrenjames Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I will happily post my conversion info.
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    warrenjames wrote: »
    I will happily post my conversion info.

    TY

    I need to know if proto tech converts 1:1, I may let crooktic convert my proto tokens if I'm assured mk12 gear once I level-up in the new game.

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  • verlaine11verlaine11 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    This is my total of goodies after i tranfered my character over last night - i will update here with what i get when i see the conversion on Tribble


    EDC 79
    Rare Borg Salvage 80
    Prototype Borg Salvage 27

    Common Shield 8
    Rare Shield 9
    Prototype Shield 3

    Common Engine 2
    Rare Engine 1
    Prototype Engine 1

    Common Deflector 1
    Rare Deflector 1
  • badname834854badname834854 Member Posts: 1,186 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I'll post my results as well. Let's crowdsource this shizz...
  • tobar26thtobar26th Member Posts: 799 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    warrenjames wrote: »
    The only reason I can think of for them to do this is that they have a diminishing returns formula, and don't want people hoarding the optimal amount of tokens, then selling the rest off for dilithium before the conversion. Dan Stahl keeps responding with "You'll be able to see how much stuff you'll get on Tribble, so you can make an informed decision!"

    The problem is that we can't make a truly informed decision unless we know how those numbers came about...
    Yeah, I'm open minded on this, at least we can transfer over, test, and use Dilithium as a cash in if we need to.


    Given I don't have the MK XII ground set on my main though I'll probably transfer over and convert.
  • jackdonnerjackdonner Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Ok, well...i hopped on tribble, and the store is not operational. Do we have to reach tier 5 before we can even access this new store? Is that where we should be able to see the conversion? Do they expect us to grind up to tier 5 in order to even see what the conversion will be?
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