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Ship Type Proposal: Strike Carrier
therealsivar
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With the release of the latest Federation ship, the Vesta, I thought I'd propose a cruiser-size counter vessel (or parallel at least) for the KDF. I don't know how much traction it will get, or if it will get ignored, but I thought I'd put it out there all the same:
Suvwl' QeH'-class Strike Carrier
Description: With the wars against the Federation and the Borg continuing to escalate, in addition to the mounting conflicts with the Undine and in Romulan space, losses have mounted within the Empire. While the military forces of the Empire remain a powerful fighting force, the High Council realized that they needed ships capable of not only of fulfilling multiple roles, but capable of carrying out significant operations alone and behind enemy lines if needed.
Towards that end, the High Council commissioned multiple design teams in competition to determine which type of vessel would best fulfill the Empire's needs. After significant simulations and testing, one team determined that the carrier's of the Empire where the best option to achieve this goal, however Fleet carriers were too large and incapable of operating without support, while the smaller Flight Deck Cruisers fielded by the Orions lacked the needed firepower.
The end result was a hybrid craft they called, the Strike Carrier, a vessel that combines much of the forward firepower of a Destroyer, with the additional support capabilities of a light carrier. The vessel far surpassed its competition and was officially approved by the High Council soon after. Called the Suvwl' QeH' (Warrior's Anger) class, this powerful warship stands ready to undertake any mission that the Empire might face.
Stats:
-Crew:500
-Shield Modifier: 1.2
-Hull Strength: 26,500
-Device Slots: 3
-Weapons: 4 Fore, 2 Aft
-Bridge Officers: 1 Lt. Tactical, 1 Lt. Engineering, 1 Cmdr Science, 1 Lt. Cmdr. Universal, 1 Ensign Universal
-Base Turn Rate: 13
-Impulse Modifier: 0.20
-1 Hangar Bay (small craft ONLY)
-Cloaking Device
-Can Equip Cannons
-Power: +10 Weapons, +5 Auxiliary
-Consoles: 3 Engineering, 3 Science, 4 Tactical
Conclusion:
As I said this is meant to be a counter or parallel to the Vesta, and everything here would be for a base model. If it were to actually go through then hopefully we'd get 3 variants with differences in power bonuses and console layout, as well as some special consoles.
Anyway, what do yall think?
Suvwl' QeH'-class Strike Carrier
Description: With the wars against the Federation and the Borg continuing to escalate, in addition to the mounting conflicts with the Undine and in Romulan space, losses have mounted within the Empire. While the military forces of the Empire remain a powerful fighting force, the High Council realized that they needed ships capable of not only of fulfilling multiple roles, but capable of carrying out significant operations alone and behind enemy lines if needed.
Towards that end, the High Council commissioned multiple design teams in competition to determine which type of vessel would best fulfill the Empire's needs. After significant simulations and testing, one team determined that the carrier's of the Empire where the best option to achieve this goal, however Fleet carriers were too large and incapable of operating without support, while the smaller Flight Deck Cruisers fielded by the Orions lacked the needed firepower.
The end result was a hybrid craft they called, the Strike Carrier, a vessel that combines much of the forward firepower of a Destroyer, with the additional support capabilities of a light carrier. The vessel far surpassed its competition and was officially approved by the High Council soon after. Called the Suvwl' QeH' (Warrior's Anger) class, this powerful warship stands ready to undertake any mission that the Empire might face.
Stats:
-Crew:500
-Shield Modifier: 1.2
-Hull Strength: 26,500
-Device Slots: 3
-Weapons: 4 Fore, 2 Aft
-Bridge Officers: 1 Lt. Tactical, 1 Lt. Engineering, 1 Cmdr Science, 1 Lt. Cmdr. Universal, 1 Ensign Universal
-Base Turn Rate: 13
-Impulse Modifier: 0.20
-1 Hangar Bay (small craft ONLY)
-Cloaking Device
-Can Equip Cannons
-Power: +10 Weapons, +5 Auxiliary
-Consoles: 3 Engineering, 3 Science, 4 Tactical
Conclusion:
As I said this is meant to be a counter or parallel to the Vesta, and everything here would be for a base model. If it were to actually go through then hopefully we'd get 3 variants with differences in power bonuses and console layout, as well as some special consoles.
Anyway, what do yall think?
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Its a marriage between three iconic designs - Vor'cha, K'Tinga, & Raptor
Some console ideas:
TAC: Ty'Go'Hor Incursion Strike Team - summons a Fleet support vessel without any hull damage restriction at any time.
ENG: Exothermal Blast Shutters - KDF version of Ablative armour except that torps/ mines are unaffected.
SCI: Cloaked Sonic Cluster Mines - Mines cannot be targeted. 3 sec to activation. Similar effect to CPB with proc to cause subsystem targeting.
3-set bonus - Innate Rapid-fire HYT Hybrid Polaron Torpedo (Similar to the D'Deridex torps just faster
I think it'll be a welcome addition to the KDF
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I thought about that, but I didn't want to push anymore on a ship that has 3 distinct layouts already (T4, T5, and the Fleet variant). Ultimately saying Raptors was just to emphasize what the ship's hybrid design came from, not to get the bad pivot of the Qin into the picture.
I fixed it in the OP to say Destroyer instead of Raptor.
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id consider coming up with a two-set bonus though as well
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Hmm, nice set of ideas, what do you think about:
Tac: Cloaked Heavy Plasma Mine - A large, cloaked mine that detonates only on command from the deploying ship (or after 45 seconds). Explosive force of the mine reaches out 6 km and ships caught in the blast radius are left with a powerful damage over time debuff (functions like the ground Eng kit ability).
Eng: Automated Support Satellite - A fully automated support satellite, equipped with a Hazard Pulse Emitter; repairing all craft within 5km of the satellite over time and clearing all hazard debuffs.
Sci: Exothermal Blast Shutters - What you said
3-set bonus Enhanced CIC - The latest warships in the Imperial fleet have the benefit of experienced Flight officers brought in from previous carriers, allowing for improved coordination and performance of the carrier's strike craft.
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Oh please make it so!
Holy TRIBBLE...I don't know what that model is, but it looks cool as hell. I'd love to see that in-game! :cool:
Mostly what I would like to see is something like the vesta either one ship that can have functions to have moving parts like the new 1000-day veteran ship but function like the commands the multivector has for moving those parts and stat changes when altering the form of the ship... Or..
Something like a 3 ship pack idea where you either get a bop or raptor, negh'var retrofit, and a carrier retrofit. Anyways the similarities and everyones views come down to a few common ground issues.
#1. The KDF has been ignored for so long with ship developement when you ask a fellow KDF playing friend how many fed ships have come out since the bortasqu' their answer is simple. I lost count after counting all my fingers and toes.
#2. Our Heavy Battle Cruisers are just mere copies of federation ships and nothing to show uniqueness besides a standard cloak and DHC's so in all rights we want our KDF ships to have what one federation captain said in a DS9 episode... It needs some TEETH.
#3. It is getting to a point the only way we can expect to get anything with KDF sticker slapped on the side is if its something we can buy through the exchange or pay gobs of money that is not credited to players of the faction in the form of lockboxes and lobi store.
#4. I remember a dev stating once in defense of making fluff that they have to make things for every demographic of the playerbase. Which as the KDF community sees federation ship after federation ship in the C-store and all we got was the bortasqu' in the form of C-store ship and nothing since then which has been atleast or close to a whole year.
#5. Lastly this one comes as something we know is going to happen unless Cryptic changes what its doing with ignoring the KDF. We all know at some point the level cap will increase beyond the current max of Level 50. That being said we will most likely not see KDF ships for that new max level because the current rate of only federation ships being pumped out there will not be anything for the KDF faction and we will be resorting to using ships at an extreme disadvantage more than they can be percieved now.
I know that there are a lot of variants of the Vor'cha out there (T4, T5, Mirror, and Fleet) and that's why I wasn't advocating it's use, and to be honest there are a lot of D7 variants out there too (T3, T5, and Fleet) and I'm not even sure if this would work well with the design profile of the D7. As for the Negh'var, I don't think it would be a good choice simply because it would be very difficult to justify the radical changes in stats between the T5 and Fleet versions to what I listed or what anybody else has listed for possible counters to the Vesta.
In all honestly though, while I would love to get a fresh Klingon (yes Klingon) ship design, I'd be willing to take a variant of any of those three if it meant they gave it to us.
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In terms of design, I could see a ship similar to a slightly stretched version of the 1000 day destroyer for such a task.
Regarding aestetics I'd say maybe the Centauri from the old "Bablyon 5 Wars" tabletop could be a good source of ideas (though certainly not when it comes to colours)
http://zappa.brainiac.com/spaceship/Mongoose/Altarian.jpeg
http://www.agentsofgaming.com/4new.jpg
their destroyers and strike cruisers have a visible hangar on their back.
I think something similar would work pretty well in a Klingon designed ship.
I know what you mean, and I myself am a little conflicted on proposing another ship with a hangar bay, however with that said I do think that we need a counter to the newest Federation ship, and I hope that Cryptic will take note of this particular design
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Your little back story for the ship class is brilliant and plays a little into a conversation I was having with some fleet mates earlier today, the KDF's Vesta should be a collaborative effort among the races that make up the Klingon Empire.
So I would build on the idea with this, the 3 variants should represent 3 of the Main KDF species.
Tactical version = Klingon design
Engineering version = Orion design
Science version = Gorn design
A radical idea I know, but the 3 versions could all share the same basic overall shape and underlying design yet at each one would have the style and spirit of there respective races.
The designs probably couldn't be kit-bashed in the tailor, but could at least be interchangeable.
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LtC Sci, Lt Tac, Lt Eng, Ens Universal, Cmdr Universal
But I think the Cmdr Seat in all KDF should be Universal because I fly a BoP.
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I don't know, I think it would be interesting that's for sure but it would be a lot more work for cryptic so I don't think we'll ever see that. But to be honest, I'd be happy if they just gave it to us with a fresh Klingon design really
Well I considered that, but remember this is supposed to be a parallel/counter to the Vesta, and a Cmdr Universal would make it better than the fed version so the likelihood of it happening would be incredibly low I would think.
But like I've said, hopefully Cryptic takes note of this thread and grants the request
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Although millions of warriors are seeing visiting the House of K'ringle wishing and hoping.
I honestly don't know if I have much faith for seeing any kind of KDF ship but I hope I'm wrong.
the ablative armor is KDF tech janeway stole
Errmmm, nope.
She stole the tachyon timetravel deflector thingy and she already had the armor in her posession at the time.
You forget how she had Miral Paris making agreements for Klingon Tech for months before she just stole the last piece he wouldn't trade. So one could debate it was federation but even if you stole something from someone and currently hold it... It doesn't mean that you created it which is a flaw in that logic that it was made by the federation. Being what was stated by Janeway and Paris in the finale of the series its pretty safe to say all that tech was Klingon.
Read again what I wrote.
I did not say where it came from.
I did not say it was invented by the Feds.
I only said she didn't steal it from the Klingons and that she already had it in her posession when she stole the deflector.
Don't put words in my mouth.
Oh, BTW if the armor tech was actually Klingon why was Korath so interested in getting it?
Appearently it was not a Klingon design or he would have known about it.
In addition the episode only specifies Janeway was helping Korath get into the council so she could get the deflector, show me where they talk about getting anything else from the Klingons.
http://www.voyager.cz/voyager/epizody/171endgameitrans.htm
show me where it's mentioned or even implied she traded for more than the deflector.
Oh man I hope not, but honesty I would take it if it meant we got the ship, but I'm really really really REALLY hoping for an actual Klingon design to come through for the Klingon Empire.....
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possibly he is refering to;
from memory alpha
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Might as well gimme a Firehawk too !
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
More than a few things in this game are not canon, but the important part is that I'm not introducing some radical new concept as though carriers were not already part of the game, they are.
This is only to try and keep the tables balanced
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