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redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
edited November 2012 in Klingon Discussion
dastahl wrote: »
There will be new Klingon specific content in Season 8 along with a bunch of other stuff.

I leave this here without comment. I will revisit this thread upon the launch of Season 8 to add comments.
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CommanderDonatra@Capt.Sisko: ahhh is it supposed to do that?
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I certainly hope you'll get a chance to do that given the 30 days rule.
  • brigadooombrigadooom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    misterde3 wrote: »
    I certainly hope you'll get a chance to do that given the 30 days rule.

    Create a new thread come Season 8, link back to this one which has that original quote preserved, discussion to be had in new thread until locked by a moderator because there won't be any new KDF content?
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  • harrymonkleyharrymonkley Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Maybe the KDF will be able to build a romulan embassy with a big well full of targ poo that you can kick romulan ambassadors down like this

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qR0Uke2XNI

    You could upgrade the well from targ poo to big ornate iron spikes at the bottom at tier 2, and cap out tier 3 with sharks with lazers on their heads. :D
  • andoriansrusandoriansrus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Cryptic and Stahl have been selling us this snakeoil for the last 2 years I fefar that what they are getting ready to do is give us Beads, Whiskey, and Polio Blankets (to quote Roach) instead of anything even resembeling meaningful content these lockboxes have already armed the feds with all of our coolest console toys whats next ???

    and after reading this I have little hope for the KDF in STO... that is of course if we actually look at all of the broken promises made in the past by dastahl

    http://www.stowiki.org/User:Peregrine_Falcon#The_History_Of_The_Klingon_Empire_With_Cryptic_Studios
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  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Nah, they're too busy making pointless costumes or giving the Feddies more goodies, or doing this Romulan stuff. KDF content is always 'later'.
    My PvP toon is Krov, of The House of Snoo. Beware of my Hegh'ta of doom.
  • purvee1purvee1 Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    redricky wrote: »
    I leave this here without comment. I will revisit this thread upon the launch of Season 8 to add comments.

    I want to believe this, I really do...
  • hawks3052hawks3052 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I don't believe Stahl on any of his comments. He told more than once the untruth so I will never trust in his words again.

    Beside this Cryptic is too busy making new Fed C-Store goodies and Season 7 Fed only cotent to even think about KDF.
  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Leaving it here without comment is all the comment you need.

    When they go back and start KDF at rank 1 again, THAT will be new KDF content. Emabasy dilithium sinks doesn't count. Omega store doesn't count. They involve the KDF faction, so they are KDF content, right? Nope.
  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Member Posts: 1,728 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Cryptic and Stahl have been selling us this snakeoil for the last 2 years I fefar that what they are getting ready to do is give us Beads, Whiskey, and Polio Blankets (to quote Roach) instead of anything even resembeling meaningful content these lockboxes have already armed the feds with all of our coolest console toys whats next ???

    and after reading this I have little hope for the KDF in STO... that is of course if we actually look at all of the broken promises made in the past by dastahl

    http://www.stowiki.org/User:Peregrine_Falcon#The_History_Of_The_Klingon_Empire_With_Cryptic_Studios

    This is kind of how i feel. To be honest, i hate playing as the KDF. I like the ships and how battle cloak works (i think that's how normal cloak should work like it does in canon) but over all, the KDF just isn't my faction of choice. With that said though i've been here since closed beta and i've read/heard a lot of the promises and such for the KDF, and to be fair they're being screwed. It's sad that someone has all the quotes, all the proof, and yet we're still being told so many things that never will happen. I've been a lifer since launch on both CO and STO, so i'm used to Cryptic's empty lies and hollow promises, but at the same time it disappoints me that they'd rather go with lockboxes and doff packs than actual quality content that people would actually want to toss money at them for.

    I fully believe that if they've been saying it, they should be doing it. Either that or they should just generalize everything mission wise and open up the system to let people form their own factions. Maquis, romulans, borg, KDF and fed. Now that would lead to some interesting PVP.
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Yeah. Cryptic has a hard time with story content.
    Unless dstahl gives specifics, read it as "we may possibly kind of want to if all the stars align"
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    When they go back and start KDF at rank 1 again, THAT will be new KDF content. Emabasy dilithium sinks doesn't count. Omega store doesn't count. They involve the KDF faction, so they are KDF content, right? Nope.
    While I get the want for unique KDF-only content, isn't this a bit extreme, to ignore the few scraps we do get?
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    trek21 wrote: »
    While I get the want for unique KDF-only content, isn't this a bit extreme, to ignore the few scraps we do get?

    I love what existing KDF content we have recieved. I even like Alpha.
    Though it is time to work toward our completion so the faction has a good story that ties it to STO and more options of gameplay enhancement for the fans of the races involved.
    A level One start is good as is more mid-level storyline, more costume options, fleet ships, etc, etc.
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  • hawks3052hawks3052 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Perhaps look here at LEVI3's proposal for KDF:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=429711

    He is back again as KDF enemy.
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    hawks3052 wrote: »
    Perhaps look here at LEVI3's proposal for KDF:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=429711

    He is back again as KDF enemy.

    He just enjoys kicking the KDF antpile to watch us scurry and TRIBBLE us off.

    Sad thing is he may be closer to the truth than we care to accept.
    The Devs have done nothing to further the war on the KDF side and very little to promote the war on the fed side.
    We KDF fans have had our factional difference sold off to the highest bidder, the war ignored unless it had something for the feds, scant content, absolutely no direction or focus and impossed peace has even been thrust upon us without good reasoning or even a build up as to why.
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

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  • hawks3052hawks3052 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    The sad part is you are right Roach.

    If could I would point a huge target on his ship so every KDF shop would kill him on sight.
  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    hawks3052 wrote: »
    The sad part is you are right Roach.

    If could I would point a huge target on his ship so every KDF shop would kill him on sight.

    If you are refering to me would that target apply to my 6 KDF toons as well? I better make it easier and re-name them.

    Roach is more correct - I am kicking the ant pile a little - but not to make KDF players angry - just waking up to current reality.

    While I was greatly impressed with Mr Stahls general performance in his last blog I do not believe one word that he said about season 8 being KDF focased. It's just not "economically viable" to use one of his earlier quotes why they don't want to make any more c-store KDF ships.

    By having Fed only Characters able to purchase and use KDF ships(and vise versa) it will greatly increase the player base able to purchase klingon ships and then - only then will they become "economically viable" to produce new ones.

    personally I want a Klingon style sci ship - the lock-box one without a cloak was just a let-down for me. I would like one that would be a Fleet Vor'cha like hybrid sci ship.
  • naffoffpwenaffoffpwe Member Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dastahl View Post
    There will be new Klingon specific content in Season 8 along with a bunch of other stuff.

    Sorry, I refuse to trust that guy on anything he says any more, instead I will simply do as he requests and look at his actions. Doing so makes it abundantly clear that KDF (and for that matter PvP) specific content will never be a priority while he is in charge of STO and that means Cryptic / PWE will never again see my credit card details.

    Instead, I'm putting my faith here - http://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/star-citizen/ - along with my money, I'll be pledging the equivalent of an STO lifetime subscription in financial terms because I believe Chris Roberts when he says he intends on doing something, can no longer say that of Cryptic.
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  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Chris is working on an MMO?!?!?!? Sah-WEEEET!

    Thanks for the link!
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    levi3 wrote: »
    Roach is more correct - I am kicking the ant pile a little - but not to make KDF players angry - just waking up to current reality.

    Except we KDF fans never where asleep to be woken up. The future possible situation of the KDF is the same as it ever was and to give in and joining the feds as one big faction is still the same non-option it ever was.

    All we KDF fans can do is wait, continue to express our desires and see if the light at the end of the tunnel is sunshine or the train.
    Leonard Nimoy, Spock.....:(

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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    bitemepwe wrote: »

    Except we KDF fans never where asleep to be woken up. The future possible situation of the KDF is the same as it ever was and to give in and joining the feds as one big faction is still the same non-option it ever was.

    All we KDF fans can do is wait, continue to express our desires and see if the light at the end of the tunnel is sunshine or the train.

    Sadly Levi may be right, PWE needs to make money so they go where the money is. I.E. Fanboys need their toys and money not spent on the majority is a waste, so no PvP, no more than one faction, no new story, only pay-to-play content. As Levi once said, If you aren't buying- your freeloading. So STO don't need me, my sub is running out, I don't buy fed toys and they don't create things I want. Luckily MWO is out, Chris Roberts is creating again and even our old SFC server is back up so there's many more exits available than were a few weeks ago. Seems there's less peeps who really care than drones who play what they're given, once they go the drones will have the sandbox all to themselves, enjoy.

    My hope is oneday STO get's a reboot and becomes the game this version coulda been- just like the movie franchise. Actually now that I think about it, I hope not. I'm bored beyond belief with Star Trek- the only thing interesting were the Klingons, and when they're killed off I can finally move forward in life, and find interesting things elsewhere. Keep paying them guys Levi- they LOVE your kind.
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  • naffoffpwenaffoffpwe Member Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Chris is working on an MMO?!?!?!? Sah-WEEEET!

    Thanks for the link!

    You're welcome, although he is straying away from referring to it as an MMO. It is online multi player in a persistent universe thought - sounds pretty MMO like to me.

    Still at the conceptual stage though at the moment, looking to raise the funds. I'm hoping it comes sooner than the two years they are estimating though...
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    Here before PWE (and hopefully) here long after PWE is gone.

    What this game needs is PvP, NOT PWE.
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  • krell83stokrell83sto Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    redricky wrote: »
    I leave this here without comment. I will revisit this thread upon the launch of Season 8 to add comments.
    Based Solely on his track record with the KDF: it's a Lie and if not it'd be the first time involving the KDF.

    "...just look at my track record for making the improvements that I said we would with the KDF and judge by that." - Dan Stahl
  • maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    im sick of it bloody sick of it.

    its beyond a joke the federation gets ship after ship after ship what do we get *********

    fed up with excuses and other TRIBBLE they keep giving us.

    treat the bloody factions the same if feds get a ship so do kdf thats not asking for alot just sort your ***** out cyrptic
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  • rodentmasterrodentmaster Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    im sick of it bloody sick of it.

    its beyond a joke the federation gets ship after ship after ship what do we get *********

    fed up with excuses and other TRIBBLE they keep giving us.

    treat the bloody factions the same if feds get a ship so do kdf thats not asking for alot just sort your ***** out cyrptic

    Indeed.

    THIS is what we need for the KDF:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=6335731#post6335731
  • startuxstartux Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Levi's ideas seem to be a short term fix, honestly I really think to make this game viable is exactly what Stahl says, lets hope for the first time he actually follows through!

    Does it make sense to make ships for the KDF at this time considering where we're at right now?

    I've pledged to Star Citizen, but its at least two years away it seems and I don't see it taking over STO as its very much made in the awesome Wing Commander/Privateer style. Not really an MMO, but yet it is as they seem to be trying to cover every base from a gaming point of view. Cannot wait for it either!
  • hawks3052hawks3052 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    im sick of it bloody sick of it.

    its beyond a joke the federation gets ship after ship after ship what do we get *********

    fed up with excuses and other TRIBBLE they keep giving us.

    treat the bloody factions the same if feds get a ship so do kdf thats not asking for alot just sort your ***** out cyrptic

    Excatly this is the opinion I've reached too.
    There WAS so much potential in STO, but it was wasted on the Federation only.

    I hope in 2-5 years another company will take up the Star Trek IP and make another MMO that time with a decent multifaction experience. Cryptic obviously failed miserably on that while still telling us to stay as we might get some new stuff.

    Sorry if this sounds do negativ, but I'm fed up with Cryptics Federation gets new toys only stance.
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Feds get 15 cstore ships in two years, we get one.
    But pwe is going commited to the kdf.

    Never buy another pwe product
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Member Posts: 1,728 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I think it's kind of funny that they go around saying there isn't enough players on the KDF to justify more content, what was it last time, 16% of Sto players? But there probably isn't that many BECAUSE of the lack of content. There was never really a lot to it, so obviously people were turned off from a faction that never really was. If they took the time to add the promised content then I'm sure people would go for it. I for one love the ships on the KDF side but don't play it as it does tend to be "hey we're bad guys" more than "we're honorable warriors" but if they added more content and some nice ships too boot I'd level my two KDF ASAP.
  • chalpenchalpen Member Posts: 2,207 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I think it's kind of funny that they go around saying there isn't enough players on the KDF to justify more content, what was it last time, 16% of Sto players? But there probably isn't that many BECAUSE of the lack of content. There was never really a lot to it, so obviously people were turned off from a faction that never really was. If they took the time to add the promised content then I'm sure people would go for it. I for one love the ships on the KDF side but don't play it as it does tend to be "hey we're bad guys" more than "we're honorable warriors" but if they added more content and some nice ships too boot I'd level my two KDF ASAP.

    Even the village idiot can figure that out before cryptic can. That isn't saying cryptic is dumb, but its saying that cryptic is looking at other metrics to get there vision.
    Look at all the story content In The past two years.
    One fe series and "Alpha". They just don't have the heart to make content like that.
    So they make starbases and repeatable content that people "accept".

    The entire point to f2p is to accept that you are going to get 90 percent of the people mad and leave. But it doesn't matter unless you have that same number of new players. Rinse repeat.
    Should I start posting again after all this time?
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