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dshot79
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With Season 7 just around the corner I've been keeping up as best I can on the news coming for the devs. I'm liking most of what I'm hearing. The most recent STF changes seem like they're heading in the right direction.
I do however have a serious concern. In Season 5: Call to Arms, Cryptic made an excellent move by converting many of the game's currencies into dilithium, thus making the currencies used much clearer and in ways that made more sense to the Star Trek universe.
I've now seen two separate articles regarding "new currencies" being released with Season 7; Romulan Marks & Omega Marks (as well as Borg Neural Processors; though we don't know how these fir yet).
My concern is this: Aren't these introductions of "marks" just returning to what was before with the exploration marks from the past? It sounds like you're adding "new currencies" back into the game. and this could quickly become, once again, overwhelming to players very quickly.
I'd be interested in hearing from the devs and getting their thoughts on why they've chosen this avenue that seems so familiar and could so easily become what we've left behind already.
I do however have a serious concern. In Season 5: Call to Arms, Cryptic made an excellent move by converting many of the game's currencies into dilithium, thus making the currencies used much clearer and in ways that made more sense to the Star Trek universe.
I've now seen two separate articles regarding "new currencies" being released with Season 7; Romulan Marks & Omega Marks (as well as Borg Neural Processors; though we don't know how these fir yet).
My concern is this: Aren't these introductions of "marks" just returning to what was before with the exploration marks from the past? It sounds like you're adding "new currencies" back into the game. and this could quickly become, once again, overwhelming to players very quickly.
I'd be interested in hearing from the devs and getting their thoughts on why they've chosen this avenue that seems so familiar and could so easily become what we've left behind already.
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All those marks, techs whatever are kinda weird for me.
Why all equipment is not available through dil shops - the answer is simple. Dil doesn't take up inventory space and more inventory space is something you buy for Zen. You should be asking actually why Lobi Crystals use inventory space.
But in the end you're right. It's all weird, instead of keeping only Zen/dil/EC currently we have also fleet marks/credits, LC, STF items, GPL, Eta Eridani techs "currency" to "buy" an additional dil getting mission, etc etc. Very bad design. Feels like a rushed design in fact, but dunno how would that be possible, STO is not a new game.
Example: You do the Defari daylies and instead of the 1400 latinum you choose to be paid out in Lobi. That way you can 'save up' for what you'd really like to get.
Ofcourse it'd mean they'd have to come up with some sorft of exchange rate.
They could even add a 'penalty' if you choose to be paid out in anything other than the default reward.
Say the normal exchange is 1 Lobi for 100 latinum. Then chosing to be paid in Lobi instead of Latinum for your daylies would only get you 12 Lobi and not 14.
Latinum is worth less sorry to say can not do any thing with it.There is only a few things that you can bye with Latinum should not even be in game for that matter.
But what is really the point on this new Currency.
This Grinding thing day in and day out is getting to all of us.You guy's tend to set the cap way to freaking high.You need to ease up some.
And on top of these issues your more worried about season 7 and not fixing the real bug's that really need fixed.In the last few patch's i can count 20 or more thing's that have been broken with each patch.
When you come out with season seven i bet you are going to break even more thing's that even where not broken.Like the season 6 patch.
With every new season Comes with tons of new bugs And there are still bug's from season 5 that still have not been fixed.
I am not trying to be a troll just speaking my mind on what the real issues are.
new and improved.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
My say it is improved but is it really.If you played for as long as i have then you must at lest know what went on be for season 4 and 5.Not trying to complain too much but sure it is nice to have a new change but you your self has to admit that even now there are ton's of bug's that still have not been fixed and it has been all most 2 weeks or more for some of them.
EDC, 2 types of salvage, 18 types of prototype tech and the vault chips, which all take up inventory space, vs. 2 new currencies in the currency tab?
Can't really figure out which one sounds simpler and less confusing...
Right now if you go on an STF, you are in a sense gambling for the "grand prize" of getting a MK XII piece, there's always suspense and excitement and hope. Heck, even if you have everything you could hit a "jackpot" and triple or quintuple the dilithium you get from the run.
Converting the vast majority of "endgame" to a grind with no chance and no suspense and people are just going to stop playing them in droves.
There is a reason that people head to Vegas to sit in front of slot machines slipping in coins and watching the numbers and the pretty lights even though it is *less* mentally engaging than the most menial task they get paid money for and it ain't the pretty lights.
Would have there own currency
Gear food drink items of every sort would
Be the only universal currency
Saphire.. Science ground......Ko'el Romulan space Tac
Leva........Tactical ground.....Koj Romulan space Eng
JJ-Verse will never be Canon or considered Lore...It will always be JJ-Verse
THIS. Big time.
I know that i will have alot less fun and will be less willing to do STFs and other stuff when all i will get is always the same petty reward, day after day.
I don't care that i will get garanteed advancement toward something at a snail pace. The magic will be gone. No more excitement. Just the same boring paycheck you get for completing the same job again and again... I actually just can't believe that some players are actually wanting this...
I think the current STFs are both gambling AND grinding. You grind and grind for proto salvage and if you're really lucky you get one. That's assuming you don't get a rubbish group who either don't know what they're doing and/or leave mid-match.
The new system removes luck from the equation and add new captain abilities. Combine that with a lot less overall currencies, how can that be anything but a win?
Look guys these are all fun and good but they SHOULD NOT be taking up valuable space in my personal inventory. Cryptic - You guys need to so something to address this as soon as possible. I am happy you reduced all the STF "item transfer currencies" but there still needs to be a separate place where all these other ones go that does not penalize a player's inventory space. They need to go into an automatic "Cargo Hold" as only a numeric we can see, choose to withdraw from, and the system automatically recognizes and draws from.
This needs to be done, my proposal is this:
This imo is the most logical and simplified quality of life solution for all players.
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You make a good point. There is some truth to that, but the fact remains that grind or chance, it's always been supremely badly handled in STO for a number of reasons. One complete random chance of the personal loot drop. Second is the personal loot drop itself. These are not things that exist in many of the more traditional and successful MMOs. And it exists here because of the whole need vs. greed nonsense paired along with the fact that there is no career specific gear at all in this game.
In other MMOs there's drops that not everyone can use. And some of this unique gear drops all the time. People know there's a loot table, and there's some things in there they need, but there's no hard feelings when someone else gets something, least of all when it's class specific. It's a lot more good-natured and far less an anonymous experience than a STO pickup group is. It's also less grindy, as all too often, these instances have a 24 hour lockout. And in a fleet context, it is particularly wry when you get a mk XII tech drop when you've already completed all the sets, and you just don't get that standard MMO option of passing it up and letting someone else have it.
I tried to come up with some random drops that maybe one of which could drop every STF, class-specific that only the ones who could actually use it got to roll Need on, but 54 items in (18 kits with a borg-specific 5th power (borg grenade, assimilation antidote, (group?) plasma PSG buff), 9 class-specific weapons, both times two for mk XI and mk XII) I realized that while adding some of these might work for the ground STFs, there's just no way to fit it into space STFs. (Not that ground STFs don't need the love more than the space ones do. Except of course for that hussy, Khitty Accord.) So I'm not sure that's even an option.
Still, the STFs could well end up suffering, as people reach T5 in Omega Force reputation (if they hold out that long) and realize with some measure of relief they never have to play another STF again. I don't know if it will, but I suppose it could happen.