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Will Cryptic change the mail system in Season 7?
levi3
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I have heard again from unofficial sources, as I have heard in the past that there may be plans to put an end to the free "infinite" storage space that the mail system has become.
From all the changes that I have heard coming this is probably the only one I can say makes sense.
I don't think the mail system was designed as a long term place to store stuff and neither did Cryptic. I have been wondering for some time why they let this go on.
I know that with Gold and LTS you were supposed to get unlimited mail - but did this mean that you could use it as a place to store stuff?
Edit:
With the increase in doff grinding costs - the removal of dilth from dismissing commons(75 to 1 is removal)
and peoples general lack of wanting to get rid of something for nothing
I see a Tsunami of doffs flooding the mail system after season 7 goes live - millions - perhaps 10's of millions
If I were Cryptic I would want to get ahead of the curve and prevent this from happening, rather than deal with deleting all those doffs in the system after a few weeks when they realize there are so many - 1) that would TRIBBLE players off more 2) the exchange would turn into a circus
So is Cryptic's Mail system ready for this tital wave of doffs???.
From all the changes that I have heard coming this is probably the only one I can say makes sense.
I don't think the mail system was designed as a long term place to store stuff and neither did Cryptic. I have been wondering for some time why they let this go on.
I know that with Gold and LTS you were supposed to get unlimited mail - but did this mean that you could use it as a place to store stuff?
Edit:
With the increase in doff grinding costs - the removal of dilth from dismissing commons(75 to 1 is removal)
and peoples general lack of wanting to get rid of something for nothing
I see a Tsunami of doffs flooding the mail system after season 7 goes live - millions - perhaps 10's of millions
If I were Cryptic I would want to get ahead of the curve and prevent this from happening, rather than deal with deleting all those doffs in the system after a few weeks when they realize there are so many - 1) that would TRIBBLE players off more 2) the exchange would turn into a circus
So is Cryptic's Mail system ready for this tital wave of doffs???.
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Neither do I, at least as far as storage. As I tend to always say in these instances of someone claiming something someone else said:
References please.
The Artist Formerly Known As Nikotaka ][ Join Date: Jan 2010
"Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers...?"
Was the mail system designed as a free infinite storage? And if not - will Cryptic remove this "exploit" in season 7?
You do risk however someone buys your stored white doff for 100 millions, but then again, it wouldn't be that bad, wouldn't it?
The exchange limits you to 40 items - the mail system is infinite - and I am sure takes up a significant amout of Cryptic's storage space.
You would have to ask someone in a position of authority at Cryptic, not us forum-dwellers, unless there's a reason for poking here about it. The mail system has been this way since STO's inception, and it's highly unlikely that Cryptic is unaware of the way their mail system can be used.
If no plans have been announced by someone official to alter the way the mail functions, then signs point to no for an answer to your query.
Why the sudden fascination with other peoples' mail storage?
The Artist Formerly Known As Nikotaka ][ Join Date: Jan 2010
"Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers...?"
Sure how? What figures do you have that mail storage is currently impacting Cryptic's storage in any way that you can bring to your argument?
The Artist Formerly Known As Nikotaka ][ Join Date: Jan 2010
"Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers...?"
That's fine - you believe the answer is no. You have also not heard about this - so that answer is no.
Thanks for your input. I would love to hear an official comment from Cryptic. Perhaps I will. Why do you seem so concerned about my question?
I am concerned about anyone who brings up a proposed change without cited evidence.
Evidence you have yet to provide.
You may very well be on to something about the mail system and proposed changes. But forgive me if I don't trust 'an unofficial source', which used to be your 'dev announcement' before you changed it when being questioned, as a reason to follow you on it.
The Artist Formerly Known As Nikotaka ][ Join Date: Jan 2010
"Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers...?"
Ohhh now I get it.
I wouldn't mind a fix though, as long as they provide us 10 times the bank storage we already have without charging like mad for it and better options to store important amounts of doffs. Because as it is the mail is the only way to be a trader in STO.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
It is situations like this--the excitable lips of our fellow players who tend to take rumor as fact--that I simply ask for a bit of credible backing when there's to be declaration of a change that may affect me. If a Developer said they were seriously planning to edit a system in the game, I'd like to know when, where, and who.
As the internet colloquial goes: 'Pics or it didn't happen'.
The Artist Formerly Known As Nikotaka ][ Join Date: Jan 2010
"Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers...?"
As I have said I have also heard about Cryptic making changes to the mail system storage exploit before - I am just wondering it there is any more truth to it this time.
Of all changes they could make this one does not seem to be unreasonable or something wildly speculative since everyone knows the mail system was not designed(at least as I understand it) to be a long-term storage device.
Granted some of the things I hear are pretty wild - but this does not seem to be one of them.
You agree that this is an exploit?
Maybe they planed on it and still do but it is not a priory for them at the moment which is why this rumor has been around and around for a very long time.
And by creating this thread about it, youre continuing the turning of the rumor mill.
As Neoakirii said this has been going around and around for a while, perhaps this time we will get an official answer so that it will no longer be a rumor?
Well this is what Brandon had to say about that - and I take is word on it:
Originally Posted by pwebranflakes
I actually went back to this thread and re-re-read it. Looking back, I misunderstood what you were claiming the rumors were about and I apologize. No information about such change has been released so it's all pure speculation by the "zone chat trolls" (I lurk in there often and you should hear some of these rumors they make up to get players all riled up). I will say that Neverwinter is working on tech for Foundry missions where players will earn rewards based on average completion time of a mission (within a mission itself; the "treasure chest" you open at the end). http://tavernugc.com/neverwinter-dev-post-round-up/ posted this recap about it. There has been nothing decided at this time on how this will affect the "Investigate Officer Report" daily -- feel free to include feedback in this thread on what you would like to see/ not see happen if there were a change.
If he has something to say about the mail issue then I will take his word on that to.
Is there really someone who spends $15,000 to keep the market afloat.
Does PWE plan an invasion of the U.S.;)
Are things really Gorntastic.:eek:
and much more.
Well that is something I did not know - a 500 mail cap.
No I don't since the current bank system is a shame. You get way too few slots for the amount of zen it costs, I'd rather see the current zen price for an additional bank tab of the gold membership size. There are so many items in game that the bank is way too small.
And we would have many trouble to keep some doffs. After all, Cryptic should show some appreciation to traders, we keep the markets stable and we provide a lot of value to them since they sell keys and since people who open lockboxes make an intensive use of the exchange to get the stuff they want. Sometimes I just need to keep 1k doffs, but in no way I'm ready to pay insane amounts of zen to do so.
As stated below we provide a service they need since they couldn't keep the exchange markets supplied in everything to allow those who buy keys to get what they want, so if they remove the ability to use mails they better provide us a lot of easiness to store stuff otherwise prices will go crazy quickly.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
The mail system has a specific limit, is designed to carry items, and has direction on the "compose" screen on how to mail to yourself.
I would say it's a functioning as intended, software designed from the game startup.
I think the answer is no.
Was the mail designed as a place to store thousands of doffs? As many people apparently do?
I think the answer is no.
I believe the mail system was designed to send things from one alt to another and from one person to another and was not designed as a holding place.
That's the only reason that I have given any thought to this - supposedly long time rumor that Cryptic may finally put a stop to it by putting a time limit on mail then auto deleting it - or a cap on data in your box as many other mail servers have.
Now that they seem to be monitizing everything they could want people to buy more bank space, buy the acount shared bank slots, maybe there are plans to let you buy a few hundred more doff slots - I have no idea.
I guess we will just have to wait and see as with everything else. Thanks for your input.
it's not like Cryptic does not know what's in the mail system. They most likely know how every uses it, and they seem to think it's not a big deal.
Cryptic is always watching....when you feel that tingling feeling on the back of your neck...that's most likely a Zombie about to jump you RUN!!!!!.
IF (and I say IF) Cryptic is thinking of limitating our Mail in some capacity, then it will hurt regular players with the DOFF system.
I'm sure many players are at the 400 DOFF limit and in order to do Starbases, they have to temporarily put the non bound DOFFS in Mail Slots to make necessary room to contribute (I sure do).
So IF they are doing a mail limitation, then they will have to create somekind of DOFF storage, else players would have to delete DOFFs they don't want to, so they can do the Fleet and Reputation system (which does ask for DOFFs).
So what you are saying is that they would have no plans to want people to buy more bank space - and more doff space if they added it?
I think they would have to increase the doff capacity that you could BUY
But of course you could always upgrade your doffs from common to purple for only 8000 dilth!! Under the new system. What a great idea to maximize doff space and dilth spent!