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Not sure if this has been raised before but I'm going to raise it here.
I completed an Infected Space Elite (with optional) only to get Omega Marks and 1 elite mark, what happened to the loot box at the end? I know sometimes it contained junk but sometimes it had a nice weapon or console.
It would be a real shame if this was a permanent change.
I completed an Infected Space Elite (with optional) only to get Omega Marks and 1 elite mark, what happened to the loot box at the end? I know sometimes it contained junk but sometimes it had a nice weapon or console.
It would be a real shame if this was a permanent change.
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It really isn't worth playing STO anymore, it just isn't.
A bunch of regular Omega Marks (I think ~20-25, I don't remember exactly) and 1 Elite mark.
Nope, you get what squishkin said. The 1 elite mark is required to buy the Mk12 Elite gear, although I have no idea how many one needs to buy a set piece...
The current plan is 5 per piece of Mk XII gear.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
I just checked and the elite STF's are currently rewarding 3x less marks than they should.
Infected Space Elite is currently awarding 20 Omega Marks without the bonus, on the next push it will award 60 Omega Marks per run.
It will still give 1 elite mark.
Doesn't this really defeat the whole purpose of having a reputation system with gear unlocks at all? I thought we were going to be placed in a position where, because of the reputation system, you wouldn't have to run the things you didn't want; you'd just have to gather sufficient marks to buy it. That also handily deals with the issue that we used to have with not needing rare salvage once you'd already got enough prototype.
Except...you seem to have placed us back in basically the same position now. It's not just one set of marks and then you buy what you want, it's "one set of marks and you buy what you want except if you want these special things in which case you have to get another set of marks", which is basically where we were in the first place.
That's pretty much it though isn't it.
You can run *just* Infected Space Elite and still be able to get yourself a full MACO Mk XII ground set.
Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Yes, but you can't run just, say, Infected Space Normal. Or whatever else is going to be giving Omega Marks that aren't 'elite' Omega Marks. It's not exactly the same, obviously. I'm not saying that it is. But it's the same type of problem the system was supposed to solve... repeated!
(Edit: I realize that i am presuming the "elite" in "Elite Omega Marks" means you can only earn them from Elite STFs. If that's not true, then the system, while still bad, isn't as bad- elite marks then become more like a 'counter' than anything else.)
Bingo.
Getting the Mk XII sets should still be an accomplishment worth being able to brag about. Even if it's a lot more attainable now for more people, you have to at least have some experience with our most difficult end-game content.
Cryptic - Lead Systems Designer
"Play smart!"
+How much dilithium?
Because as I understand it, and feel free to correct me, 1 [Borg] weapon is going to cost roughly what dil store/fleet stores charge which means something on the order of 20 STFs.
LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
EXACTLY. This. Exactly this.
Edit:
Also, what am I going to do with the 400 EDCs and salvage that I have in the bank with no use for?
~Tear
They will be converted into the omega reputation
THIS! I've invested too much time in STFs to be told to start back at the very beginning with this new tier gated store stuff. This new system should take into account how many STF runs we already have under our belt and unlock the gates for us.
Good to know thanks for the update... glad to hear it I just subbed here for 3 months. lmao
IMHO it doesn't need to be all of the gates because the gates also have new stuff behind them.
But failure to provide a running start is something any other competent and solvent MMO studio would provide.
And JUST converting EDC/Salvage is not a running start.
This would be like if WoW rolled back everyone's Stormwind, Darnassus, Gnomergan, and Ironforge rep when TBC came out to make that everyone had the same grind when Exodar was introduced to get the 5 home faction exalted achievement.
There doesn't seem to be any random factor in the amount of marks earned, unlike the random drop of EDC's, tech, and salvage (via random drop, optional loot, and stf completion loot). It was possible to earn a couple prototype salvage plus a prototype tech during an elite STF... that's quite a bit of dilithium (~2k) if just the prototype tech is cashed in. I assume this isn't going to be possible with the new changes since it's a strict amount of marks per mission.
I have a feeling these changes will make the dilithium exchange prices soar very high. Might be better to cash in all STF loot now on the main server and grind, grind, grind until this goes live. Then again, I could be wrong since I haven't had a chance to try it on Tribble...
if you really were the "smart" designer you claim to be then you would stop and think
the top level accolade is 100 stf runs per stf (KA, INFECTED, CURE)
SO alltogether there are 6 stf pieces (3 space and 3 ground so 2 per STF)
So you should (in my view) have to run at least 50 space runs and 50 ground runs of the respective STF to get the respective ground or space piece
If im understanding you right your saying that if i run 5 stf i get a mk 12 piece of gear ?
Well on behalf of the players who have ground stfs over the last 3 or 4 months thanks a bunch Jeremy for completely cheapening mk 12 gear and making us look like a bunch of idiots. Ive actually played the game and done everything asked of me by cryptic and now you want to just hand out mk 12 gear like its freebies ?
right :rolleyes: you people really have lost major touch with the people who actually play your game and if you continue with these changes it will be the final straw for a lot of people
BUT WHAT YOUR PROPOSING TO DO WONT MAKE IT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT :mad: what your proposing will just cheapen mk 12 khyg/omega/maco and what about people who have missing parts of sets that will have to start all over again ?
Im really starting to wonder whats going on with all these bad/horrible changes and decisions being made. You developers really have lost touch with the core playerbase
The elite marks come only from elite STFs, so there's no misunderstanding. However giving out stuff that buys Mk XII gear for something that optimistically requires Mk VIII gear would be idiotic, don't you agree?
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
This is my opinion anyway and while I may be wrong rethink what you said from one of us unlucky folks points of view not everyone has had 100% drop of prototypes and not everyone can stand running ELITE STFS millions of times (theoreticaly) and chancing`never getting a thing.
So its 5 Elites per Mk12 Item. Sounds reasonable considering I have done hundreds and still have no complete Mk12 set
I'm more interested in the other loot at the end, the consoles and the weapons, some of those are pretty nice if you get lucky and without them, well it makes it less appealing to play.
There's not much point running STFs just for the STF gear alone, the [Borg] weapons aren't really much use against anything other than Borg, the 2-set bonus is enough outside of STFs to be useful.
I liked the chance of getting a nice weapon or a nice console, one alt I had needed an Mk XI Phaser Relay console (or better) to replace the Mk X one and one day, one dropped in the optional, someone else in the fleet team got it but gave it to me and I use it.
Without the drops, just seems like there is less reason to do STFs, I already have all the STF gear I need.
I just want to know if there will be no more loot drops when changes go to Holodeck.