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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited October 2012
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    "Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
    -Thomas Marrone
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2012
    levi3 wrote: »
    - minus 9 stem-bolts - but I am sure I can come up with those some how!

    Oh didn't you hear? Galaxy wide Stem Bolt shortage. The manufacturer got blowed up by der borg. No more Stem Bolts for months.
    Only YOU can prevent forum fires!
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  • ltsmithltsmith Member Posts: 207 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well excepet for the trillions the Ferengi have, but I hear a Ferengi commando team is guarding them (In other words a bunch of random Ferengi who steal Vorta prisoners.)
    Join date: January 2010
  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I just want to say something:

    Tier 3 is the most any solo player making a solo Fleet Starbase will get within the shortest period of time possible, that is with time, money, and dedication.

    Progressing to Tier 4 or even Tier 5 is insane, and any soloist even attempting to go that far is just for Bragging rights. Its just not worth the time, money, and resources.

    If it takes on average and individual 6 to 10hrs a day of non-stop farming and doffing, real money, and sacrifice just to reach tier 3 in the fastest way possible - 2 and 1/2 to 5 months, imagine tier 4 and 5.

    Can it be done? Anything can be done, but expect to be at it for at least a year and a 1/2, with non-stop farming etc... You'll burn out before then.
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  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    stark2k wrote: »
    I just want to say something:

    Tier 3 is the most any solo player making a solo Fleet Starbase will get within the shortest period of time possible, that is with time, money, and dedication.

    Progressing to Tier 4 or even Tier 5 is insane, and any soloist even attempting to go that far is just for Bragging rights. Its just not worth the time, money, and resources.

    If it takes on average and individual 6 to 10hrs a day of non-stop farming and doffing, real money, and sacrifice just to reach tier 3 in the fastest way possible - 2 and 1/2 to 5 months, imagine tier 4 and 5.

    Can it be done? Anything can be done, but expect to be at it for at least a year and a 1/2, with non-stop farming etc... You'll burn out before then.

    You are 100% correct - the costs from T3 to 4 become staggering then from 4 to 5 is 2x that of T4

    example a 1000xp Military assignment:

    60 uncommon Security doffs(greens)
    140 common Tactical doffs (white)
    900 Fleet marks
    60 Photon Torp V
    20 ferasan nepa Leaves

    But it is the Green doff component that gets huge + the 140 commons -

    and the fact that you would need to do 49 assignments to hit the 100,000xp mark

    Of course you could always go the dilth sink mark and do a 500xp for 54,000 dilth and a few commons

    that would take almots 100 missions or 5,400,000 million dilth per section or 16,000,000 dilth to reach tier 4 on all 3 - not including upgrade of another 4 million+

    Did anyone say Dilth SINK!!
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Levi can we see your leaderboard? There will always be people that will claim that this was not a solo effort and the leaderboard will prove that it was.
  • recksracerrecksracer Member Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Im also doing a solo fleet (kdf) and I'm halfway through my third tier 3 class specific upgrade.

    Did you do the sci and eng upgrades or just the shipyard to get to the tier 3 SB?

    Im not real motivated to get my hand on so many green doffs to move forward myself, but what else is there in game? lol

    Also it doesnt take 49 assignments to get to tier 4 if you include the xp you get from the sb and other upgrades to the sb, but that's just splitting hairs I kno.
  • vawlkusvawlkus Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Just one more congrats on making it that far.

    I can't imagine balancing thirty chars, but then I wouldn't want to :P

    I'm also making solo runs (mostly) on two starbases (FED & KDF), and I do plan on getting to T5 eventually, but I'm in no hurry to get there. As for why do it solo? I'm doing it because I want to build stuff. I don't need any other reason but that.

    See yas out there.
  • theultimatextheultimatex Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I am doing it solo also. Still only at Tier 0 working to 1.
  • kingdoxykingdoxy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Solo fleet here.

    I just finished my transwarp gateway on Monday. I'm not really going to try and hit T2 but I'll slowly grind away at it with my alts. I'm happy knowing I did a T1 solo.
  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    starkaos wrote: »
    Levi can we see your leaderboard? There will always be people that will claim that this was not a solo effort and the leaderboard will prove that it was.

    Most of the fleet marks were turned into doffs via the fleet vendor so I don`t have that many left

    There is 1 alt that I made on another account a long time ago and I dusted her off for this assignment - don`t tell her i plan to put her back in mothballs now that the thing is completed. Sorry Christinia going to have to leave you - it`s just to much of a pain logging into another account all the time.

    http://imageshack.us/a/img9/7507/screenshot2012101714273.jpg

    In fact all my alts that wont be used are going to be stripped down to nothing - nothing in there inventory or bank or ship slots - hopefully this cuts down on the amount of info Cyrptic has to store.

    this does not show all of them the are a couple more `Thralls` as I named them - Vampire thing. I have 12 thralls in total.
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    levi3 wrote: »
    Most of the fleet marks were turned into doffs via the fleet vendor so I don`t have that many left

    There is 1 alt that I made on another account a long time ago and I dusted her off for this assignment - don`t tell her i plan to put her back in mothballs now that the thing is completed. Sorry Christinia going to have to leave you - it`s just to much of a pain logging into another account all the time.

    http://imageshack.us/a/img9/7507/screenshot2012101714273.jpg

    In fact all my alts that wont be used are going to be stripped down to nothing - nothing in there inventory or bank or ship slots - hopefully this cuts down on the amount of info Cyrptic has to store.

    this does not show all of them the are a couple more `Thralls` as I named them - Vampire thing. I have 12 thralls in total.

    That is impressive. With fleet doffs, I only purchase them until I complete the popular one, science, tactical, and operations. Then I purchase the rest of the doffs in the exchange. Problem is that the Tier 4 Science project that gives 1k XP requires 140 Medical White Doffs which means exchange for most of the 140 doffs. Engineering and Military don't look bad since it costs about 84k Fleet Credits to fill their 140 White Doffs requirements. The 84k cost is determined by purchasing 140 Fleet Doffs at 750 Fleet Credits each, then subtracting the Fleet Credit rewarded through contributions. Using the 500 Fleet Credits might be cheaper, but you never know what you get.
  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    starkaos wrote: »
    That is impressive. With fleet doffs, I only purchase them until I complete the popular one, science, tactical, and operations. Then I purchase the rest of the doffs in the exchange. Problem is that the Tier 4 Science project that gives 1k XP requires 140 Medical White Doffs which means exchange for most of the 140 doffs. Engineering and Military don't look bad since it costs about 84k Fleet Credits to fill their 140 White Doffs requirements. The 84k cost is determined by purchasing 140 Fleet Doffs at 750 Fleet Credits each, then subtracting the Fleet Credit rewarded through contributions. Using the 500 Fleet Credits might be cheaper, but you never know what you get.

    Not true - Military requires - 60 grean T4 - Security doffs (security or assuslt or armory) are hard to come by and they now go for 300k each on the exchange - that is with not a large portion of fleets over T3 - this is a MAJOR stumpling block in T4 military progress if you want to do the 1000xp assignments
  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    There is one thing not show in that list - which made up about a third of the contibution to this effort: My 6 KDF alts - without them there is no way that i could have gotten this done.

    The KDF has double the amount of dilth generating methods that the Fed has and this makes them superior to the FED side for collecting resources.

    1 toon can collect a 2 million ec a day doffing on top of the 8k dilth - the advatages of having KDF are just that superior to FED

    If I was rolling complete KDF starbase i would be half way to Tier 4 by this point!
  • levi3levi3 Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    In these new 2 shots you can now see the T3 under construction:


    http://imageshack.us/a/img109/9712/screenshot2012101716034.jpg

    http://imageshack.us/a/img856/5611/screenshot2012101716064.jpg

    The next 3 show the Fab, shipyard and Comm

    Frankly I think Cryptic should dress up the shipyard a bit more - compared to the other 2 it looks like it`s nothing.

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    http://imageshack.us/a/img826/7146/screenshot2012101716090.jpg

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