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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    flash525 wrote: »
    The devs aren't moving on with a Romulan Faction though.

    As I posted elsewhere, after reading the latest S7 Blog 6, the Romulan story line will leave the RSE in utter and complete disarray which means no real playable Romulan faction. There might be ships and characters available for Fed or KDF, but it's looking more and more like there will never be a independent playable Romulan faction introduced to STO. :(
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well, that's a shame. :(
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  • stark2kstark2k Member Posts: 1,467 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well, that's a shame. :(

    Expect their ships to be in the next BIG Lock Box with Romulan uniforms and gear in the Lobi Store. That is the Fate of the once mighty and powerful Star Empire.

    In all honesty it is indeed a real shame that this crucial faction never had a chance to be side by side with their equal counterparts as a Faction.

    STO simply started wrong by design, a price we're all still paying for in regards to multi factions and gameplay.
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  • hawks3052hawks3052 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    stark2k wrote: »
    Expect their ships to be in the next BIG Lock Box with Romulan uniforms and gear in the Lobi Store. That is the Fate of the once mighty and powerful Star Empire.

    In all honesty it is indeed a real shame that this crucial faction never had a chance to be side by side with their equal counterparts as a Faction.

    STO simply started wrong by design, a price we're all still paying for in regards to multi factions and gameplay.


    Yes indeed. It is a shame how much potential STO wasted from the beginning. Cryptic could have told many great story, but they failed miserably.
  • reichwald12reichwald12 Member Posts: 95 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    So not only is this Fed KDF war only a "war of words" without anything to lose or gain (or any real consequences, or any real open space PVP), but they are also scrapping plans for the Rommies too? What a shameful display. I really hope this isn't the case.
  • ussdanubeussdanube Member Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Shame. I'd really love to see a Romulan Faction. I'd especially love to see a Romulan D-7 in game weather as a playable lock box ship or as an NPC Romulan ship. If the Empire's in pieces, surely it would reactivate some old ships like the D-7 or the old style TOS Bird of Prey.
  • startuxstartux Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    pyryck wrote: »
    I believe that we will not see a playable Romulan faction ever added to STO as the "return on investment" would be even lower than what Cryptic gets from the KDF players. :mad:

    I believe that the KDF faction will never become fully fleshed out with faction specific content as the "return on investment" would not be financially enough to warrant undertaking the time and effort. :(

    There is just not enough interest from Trekkies and Trekkers to warrant the considerable time and effort to providing content for any faction other than the Feds.

    Your last sentence highlights something of value, why just aim the game at Trekkies/Trekkers? Honestly I am of the opinion that multi-factions bring in much more value to STO and would attract more players, whether they be Trek orientated or not.
  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    pyryck wrote: »
    There might be ships and characters available for Fed or KDF, but it's looking more and more like there will never be a independent playable Romulan faction introduced to STO.(
    As much as it pains me to say, I concur.
    stark2k wrote: »
    Expect their ships to be in the next BIG Lock Box with Romulan uniforms and gear in the Lobi Store. That is the Fate of the once mighty and powerful Star Empire.That's what I can't get my head around though; we're continually told that they're not going to be putting no Romulan ship in a Lock Box, yet they gave us the Galor because apparently people would have wanted to fly around in a Cardassian ship. They know people are more wanting to fly around in a Romulan ship.

    They've said no to lock box rommies, and a rommie faction seems less and less likely as time moves on. This means one of four things:

    1) They're going to put a Romulan ship in the Lobi Store.
    2) They're going to put a Romulan ship into the Reputation System.
    3) They're lying to us about a Romulan Lock Box, with a ship (or ships) included.
    4) They're actually planning for that Romulan faction.
    stark2k wrote: »
    STO simply started wrong by design, a price we're all still paying for in regards to multi factions and gameplay.
    Heh, you got that right. Curse you Cryptic! :(
    ussdanube wrote: »
    Shame. I'd really love to see a Romulan Faction. I'd especially love to see a Romulan D-7 in game weather as a playable lock box ship or as an NPC Romulan ship. If the Empire's in pieces, surely it would reactivate some old ships like the D-7 or the old style TOS Bird of Prey.
    Well, the Klingon players have use of the K't'inga (with a D7 skin) so a D7 Stormbird (as it's called on other games) isn't the far-fetched an idea.
    startux wrote: »
    Your last sentence highlights something of value, why just aim the game at Trekkies/Trekkers? Honestly I am of the opinion that multi-factions bring in much more value to STO and would attract more players, whether they be Trek orientated or not.
    Hah, well... As much as I'd love to fly around in a Ha'tak as a System Lord or something, I don't think Cryptic would be able to get the licensing.
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  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    i would really like to see a BOP on the Admiral lvl. Like the b'rel, just green and elegant.
    Of course with enhanced battle cloak. Zen store ship of course.
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    Romulans invented the cloaking tech, so i suppose more than one ship should have enhanced battle cloak. It could go with a price = smaller hull or shields.

    Next thing = there should be a science vessel on the admiral lvl too. With 17 turn and cannons. Does not need subsystem targeting in exchange for cloaking tech. This should be a fleet ship or a Zen store ship.
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  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    red01999 wrote: »
    I think that there is a very good chance that there's a high level of potential demand for a Romulan faction. Note I say "potential" because it does not yet exist, and will probably have to be put together and released to exist.

    There are three main factors involved in this that make me think along these lines.

    1. A LOT of current Trek nerds cut their teeth on TNG. During the TNG era, the Klingons were seen as somewhat dubious allies, but allies nonetheless, and we even had one of the most noteworthy Klingons (and by far the best defined in the lore) shown to us every week in the form of Worf. It is by virtue of his existence that much of Klingon culture has even been so well thought-out. Although the short war in DS9 shows just how shakily the KDF alliance holds, the TNG alliance basis nevertheless ingrained a default status of "ally" on them. While I believe that most understand that STO goes back to the TOS status quo, except being in an active war instead of border skirmishes, it's still a bit knee-jerk to not think of Klingons as "the bad guy faction," or even a major consideration. Note I do not say ALL or even MOST; this is merely a conjecture.

    The ROMULANS on the other hand were bandied about as the major direct opponent in most of TNG. Cardassians were in there for flavor, to be sure, and the Borg were the super-foe that made everyone wet their pants, but much of the antagonism was directly between the Federation and the Romulans. As such they may "feel" more like the main foe of the Federation.

    2. Portrayals. The Klingons may well seem to be - again, seem to be - simplistic brutes that leave thinking behind for their blades and glorifying indiscriminate slaughter. Their structures tend to be considerably more rustic and bare-bones in motif, and their ships are fairly dungeon-like. This may leave the impression that the Romulans are the more sophisticated foe, both in terms of culture, technology, and motives. While the Romulans are thought to be trying to outwit the Federation and goad them into actions they deem advantageous, the KDF may come off at first blush as "KLINGON SMAAAAAAAAASH."

    3. Ship designs. Frankly? The D'deridex is one of the very few non-Federation ships I actively WANT to command. The Klingon ships are pretty cool, but the D'deridex, at least for me, is something else. This is particularly since in many ways it was portrayed as the anti-Galaxy - it was always the ship the Romulans pulled out to counter the Enterprise in TNG, which was the most powerful combat vessel in the Federation at the time, commanded by the best crew in the fleet.

    All of these elements, and others, come together to make a Romulan faction quite viable - if they build it.

    Again, just my $.02.

    this is the most elegant and educated description of the issue i have ever read
    thank you
  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    stark2k wrote: »
    Expect their ships to be in the next BIG Lock Box with Romulan uniforms and gear in the Lobi Store. That is the Fate of the once mighty and powerful Star Empire.That's what I can't get my head around though; we're continually told that they're not going to be putting no Romulan ship in a Lock Box, yet they gave us the Galor because apparently people would have wanted to fly around in a Cardassian ship. They know people are more wanting to fly around in a Romulan ship.

    I still think they will introduce a Romulan Faction. Why?
    Because it is the most profitable thing to do.

    They know peeps WANT it BAD, even if it would only feature some 5 lvls from 45 to endgame, or some reused KDF missions.
    Imagine all these character slots, all these bank slots, the ships, the uniforms, DOFF's, BOFF's, the new fleets with all the demands and sinks...

    Reputation:
    we have Omega reputation for KDF and FED stuff. You can't get the opposite faction stuff.
    that opens a possibility!

    a new reputation is born: KDF's grind for FED marks and opposite (could be some marauding missions on the border with federation, OR JUST THE PLAIN AND SIMPLE PVP)

    Romulans will also get
    - romulan reputation (own faction)
    - omega reputation for FED gear
    - the new PVP reputation for KDF gear

    so everybody is a happy camper as no possibilities are closed to anybody.

    i actually wonder why they didn't put the BORG set into another, BORG reputation.. so every rep has its own set.. but, nevermind..
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