Looking through all the weapon types on
http://www.stowiki.org/Category:Ship_Weapons and what kind of
quad cannons there are I found a minor inconvenience. The Klingons have the ability to get a Disruptor Quad Cannon + Polarized Disruptors while the Federation doesn't have the option to use Polarized weaponry in combination with the Quad Cannon.
Shouldn't there be Polarized Phasers in the game aswell?
And yes I know there are Phased Tetryon weapons but when you have a Phaser Quad Cannon you can't stack your tactical consoles.
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Sure disruptors are nice but so is the plasma proc.
I want to be able to have weapons with dubble proc while using phasers or make the disruptor quad cannon available for Federation to balance things out.
Phased Plasma would suggest that you have a basic plasma weapon with the phaser proc. not the other way around.
And the plasma proc is probably the worst proc to have imho.
The phaser proc is possibly one of the best for PvP.
I ment plasma. Fixed.
Ok, to start, there will probably end up being Polarized Phasers, or Phased Polarons (hopefully the latter) in the future. I don't doubt that in the slightest. There will probably eventually be something like a Tetryon-Disruptor hybrid and such.
Secondly, why is it that you must bring up the Klingon's having X, so the Feds MUST now have access to X? You did that in two ways, the first just wanting these Polarized Phasers, and the second was saying Feds should get Quad Disruptor Cannons.
Third, the Quad Cannons are good for leveling, but that's about ALL. Seriously, no Acc modifiers, no CrtD or CrtH, just that Dmg x4, fine for leveling and general PvE, but not really useful otherwise. I only use my Quad Disruptors sometimes because I like how they look firing from my Bortasqu' as I shoot my CRF 1 at Borg and such.
Fourth, you said that Klingons can 'have their cake and eat it too'. Well, Feds have their 'cake, and eat it too', and on top of that, steal from everybody else's slice. You want more, and give up nothing in return. Even if Klingons got Quad Phasers in return, it wouldn't be that useful for them at all, for the same reasons you've given in the first place about not having Polarized-Phasers and such.
I don't play exclusively KDF, or Fed, but all this want, want, want, is selfish and heavily self-centered.
It's either not both. And preferably the Polarized Phasers then the Quad Disruptor Cannons.
I like the sight from quad cannons shooting from a Defiant too. And with a CRF3 quad cannons should prove a bit more effective even without the other modifiers.
Care to explain? Got no clue what you are on about here.
What would be there to give up?
Wanting might not be the best word here as it does come off self-centered. Wishing then?
The Klingons can have their cake and eat it too ?
Sorry ... what ?
Ok, let's go with analogy for a minute.
The Feds have their cake, the pie, the cookies, the whip cream, some ice cream, sprinkles, hot fudge and the cherry on top. Oh and they eat all of it, including the stupid cake
This is a stupid thing to complain about. Sorry. After the shaft the KDF has gotten historically, you choose to complain about this ?
Sorry.
Go read all about cryptic's shameful history with the KDF, and then come complain about KDF getting something the feds can't get.
/no sympathy
I understand that it would be nice to do something with science at KDF side but I think Cryptic made a fine basis for the KDF.
Lucky Strike.
I've been over the prices just now and I agree, they look high. But this is merely a look in the zen store rather then going over all the stats of the ships and comparing prices.
If you mean the Isometric Charge console, it isn't worth it. I tried it because I thought it would do same amount of damage the NPC Neg'Vars would do but no luck there.
As for the torpedo point defense system of the feds, well it ain't that good in PvE. Just gets you alot of unwanted attention. I can't speak for PvP.
Isn't unpopular the problem then with KDF then if so little improvements are released?
That's what we huumaans do
I'm not holding you back of making your own thread with suggestions/wishes for the KDF. Maybe you'll get a Rokeg blood pie with Racht next to it accompanied by some Firewine!
No sympathy required. It is merely an observation and a wish to implement if/when possible.
Then again might as well just use plasma. Fine for PVE and, cos noone thinks they are any good, you can get Mk XII purple consoles for them at 1/5 the price of phaser/disruptor/antiproton consoles.
Plus the console that boosts plasma energy weapon damage also boosts the DOT effect of plasma torps and mines. Which is nice.
I want anti-Phased Proton weapons
The Iso shock attack is/was quite devastating though inacurate when buffed by the Ta powers and such.
Maybe they nerfed it on putting in a lockbox? Who knows?
I don' t wont cake but completion.
I think all existing energy or physical melee or space or ground should be availible as part of the random drop mechanic.
R.I.P
The Borg use plasma. Lots of STF equipment is anti plasma for borg battling.
Or so the thought goes.
I actually thought that plasma had gotten a buff recently.
R.I.P
So many things wrong, first off want to talk about the warrior part and all? Feds are supposed to be peace lovers? Then why do two fed fleet ships have 5 tac consoles and neither raptors or bops have 5?
Your really out of your mind if you thought the isometric charge is going to be as powerful as the npc versions...I bet your upset you can't do 6 digit damage numbers with a HY Plasma torp like borg can right? I bet you probably don't even have any skills in particle generators.
You know...just in case you couldn't figure it out...you can wield polarized disruptors as a fed, its not like they are exclusive to the kdf.
Ok, either but not both, I can go with that a bit more, and I am guessing these Polarized Phasers wouldn't be Fed-exclusive of course.
True though, CRF 3 Quads are quite pretty, on either side.
Well, about Feds 'having their cake, eating it, and stealing everyone else's cake', is mostly going on that there are Fed-only players who come onto these forums, and pretty much whine and complain about Klingon's having 'X', and that Fed's should have 'X' too. I know you are newer to these forums, so you haven't seen a lot of that, but it has still happened a lot in the game.
That's also why you've gotten such a rather negative response on this thread from several people already, because it seems to be another one of those kinds of threads is all.
In turn, the Devs have bent to all this whining in the past, and given them what they want, and it doesn't help they keep doing it with the lockboxes by trading consoles over now.
A couple examples of that include things like having playable Klingons on the Fed-side, all the anti-cloaking devices Feds have, and so on.
As for what there would be to give up, if they just added Polarized Phasers, not much since Klingons could use them just fine still, I was mostly referring to the Quad cannons with that line.
And wanting is fine, wishing is ok, just don't have your reasoning be that 'because Klingon's have 'X', Feds should have 'X' too'.
There is stuff on the Fed's side that need's too Be fixed.
Right now the Dev's need to Worry about Fixing bug's on ESD and other place's be cause it is such a mess.
But in many way's The Fed Side is kinda getting Ignored and they are focusing on the KDF side a little too much.
Let me guess.. you're from the Mirror Universe. KDF getting TOO MUCH focus?
bwahahahahahahaaaaaaa!
Little to much focus, excuse me? Are you nuts? When is the last time the KDF has got any focus? I dare you to tell me...I really do.
People these days, seems like the forum is getting more and more delusional people. I can't believe the stuff that feds has wrote...stuff like this and stuff like the KDF is well off...maybe even better than feds.
I just hope people aren't stupid enough to read it and think its true.
I assumed it would do about the same in damage, but assumption is the mother of all f'ups.
And I have 6 skillpoints in particle generators, your point?
Not with the disruptor quad cannon, my enitre point.
Just to flip you guys off I should say: Yes, exclusive to feds . But no, not more exclusive then the Polarized Disruptors would be just fine.
I'm mostly a lurker and only started posting by starting this thread. Though I'm a fed player and keep lurking in feds threads, this has opened up some new insights into the KDF.
I think it's not so bad. People are allowed to argue here, right? That's what I'll do. Some people won't get a reply because they make some rather boring non-sticking statement.
Not sure I understand the last part. Should the feds give up the quad cannons?
Well, I can't speak for any KDF player except myself, nor will I try to. But for myself, I don't mind things being added into the game, like for example, if these Polarized Phasers were added. What I don't like, is that they add things for the Feds, and usually only the Feds, sometimes to the point of even taking it away from the KDF (like the console swapping they do in the lockboxes).
Debating and everything is good, wouldn't be a forum if we didn't. So much though, there's just been things like, 'Waaaahhh! The dirty, rotten Klingons have X! We need X or something to counter X! Waaaahhh!' You aren't doing that of course, not in the slightest.
Well, what I meant with all that, is that you were wanting Quad Disruptors possibly to use with Polarized Disruptors, but saying you wanted to give up nothing in return there at the start. I'm not saying Feds need to give up anything, just that the KDF shouldn't have to lose something they have though just so Feds can have it too.
I have a hunch, regardless of anything else, they might make a 'swap' eventually be the Quad Cannons.