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Caitian Vs. Joined Trill Playable Races

baronvonhellerbaronvonheller Member Posts: 0 Arc User
I am considering making my next toon one of these. I prefer the Catian for appearance, but the Joined Trill's space abilities are far better.

The bonuses seem somewhat marginal though. I assume they make no real difference in practice. Do you guys have an opinion?
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    If you're a PvPer you'd probably want the Joined Trill, as the bonuses aren't huge but they're bonuses - though most PvPers would pick Alien and Efficient.

    If you're a PvEer it doesn't really matter. PvE is generally easy enough that you can pick the 4 worst Traits in the game and still do fine. So just go with what you want.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • baronvonhellerbaronvonheller Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Thank you. I am mostly PvE. I'll go Caitian then
  • mbomberdavidmbomberdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I am considering making my next toon one of these. I prefer the Catian for appearance, but the Joined Trill's space abilities are far better.

    The bonuses seem somewhat marginal though. I assume they make no real difference in practice. Do you guys have an opinion?



    I think catians can jump high also and that can be useful on ground missions. I suck at jumping and thought of making one for STF infected but i dont like the look of them and would need to down a lot of romulan ale before i pulled a kirk and brought one back to the captains quarters...
  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,008 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Kinda sad that in a Star Trek game the decision is mostly based on trait choices which benefit you :D I have never looked at the char traits, neither on my toons nor on my BOFFs - I always picked what I'd like and what I thought could be a crew featured in a fictional tv-show XD
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  • red01999red01999 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    DISCLAIMER - I own neither of these races.

    It seems like you have what amounts to a choice between ground emphasis (Caitian) or space emphasis (Joined Trill).

    Caitians have one trait that seems like it does a ton for ground. If you look at STO Wiki's entry on them they can jump higher, dodge, and it helps with evasion.

    Joined Trill has basically a shotgun scattered blast of bonuses for various different systems on ships, particularly a few science skills. Nothing huge, but enough to matter slightly.

    Caitians have one advantage though - three different selected traits, instead of 2 for Joined Trill. Hyper-Metabolism, the Joined Trill ground trait, seems like it's a middling one. I'd prefer Peak Health myself.

    However, Caitians also have a poorer selection of selectable space traits. Joined Trill have 5 (Accurate, Elusive, Warp Theorist, Techie, Astrophysicist), and Caitians have a very underwhelming TWO (Accurate and Elusive).

    Minmaxers would find potential advantages with both races - Joined Trill in several space skills, Caitians in some defensive ground skills plus the buff to jumping.

    So, ultimately your answers are:

    * If you want an overall boost to space performance, a great selection of space skills, and an OK selection of ground skills, go with Joined Trill
    * If you want a lot of ground performance, but not so many space skills, go with Caitian
    * If you want maximum flexibility, and will just bash out whatever you want in the character creator, and pretend it's the race of your choice, go Alien

    However, I am NOT SURE that Caitians can be made in the alien creator, but I'm pretty sure you can create a lot of other races - I know humans, Trills, Klingons, Vulcans and many others are very easily made. I myself play a Human-Betazoid-El Aurian hybrid that's an Alien-type human. But Caitians require some unique bits, and I don't know about their availability (or lack thereof).

    For your convenience:
    http://www.stowiki.org/Caitians
    http://www.stowiki.org/Joined_trill

    The traits themselves can be clicked on from those pages.

    As a final note, personally? I'd go with Joined Trill, both because of the space bonuses, but also because I'm a fan of Trills and have yet to get one, joined or not. However, that should also give you an indication - I'd go with what I wanted. You might consider just doing that as well.
  • red01999red01999 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Kinda sad that in a Star Trek game the decision is mostly based on trait choices which benefit you :D I have never looked at the char traits, neither on my toons nor on my BOFFs - I always picked what I'd like and what I thought could be a crew featured in a fictional tv-show XD

    Not really. This has to be a game. I doubt a lot of people would find much enjoyment with "playing" social commentary, and there needs to be specific reasons for picking certain races - people are going to expect the powers they loved on the show being there, after all.

    That said, you just ignored the traits, so you've probably seen how important - or un-important - traits are, which may say something in and of itself.
  • darkenzedddarkenzedd Member Posts: 881
    edited September 2012
    Out of those two id pick the joined Trill. Its the closest species to the lts borg that you can get.

    If you were making a Tac though, id go for the Caitian. Simply because they can jump higher and they can also have a racial ability called "pounce" which is very handy for expose kills.
  • aeruhlaeruhl Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Why the hell is Joined Trill even unlockable? I can see buying a Caitian for the sake of unlocking a new race. What I don't understand is being asked to pay the same fee to play as a race that's already available (and a boring one at that) with a slightly improved skill set. Totally not worth it. What they should have done, if so inclined, is allow all races an unlockable skill boost. That makes a lot more sense than splitting hairs about one race just to acknowledge an invisible distinction and then charge money for it.
  • jslynjslyn Member Posts: 1,790 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    aeruhl wrote: »
    Why the hell is Joined Trill even unlockable? I can see buying a Caitian for the sake of unlocking a new race. What I don't understand is being asked to pay the same fee to play as a race that's already available (and a boring one at that) with a slightly improved skill set. Totally not worth it. What they should have done, if so inclined, is allow all races an unlockable skill boost. That makes a lot more sense than splitting hairs about one race just to acknowledge an invisible distinction and then charge money for it.



    The Joined Trill was originally a bonus for purchasing the Digital version of the game, I believe.

    In-Universe, I would assume that it is because there are only so many Symbiotes out there. Not every Trill can have one.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I am considering making my next toon one of these. I prefer the Catian for appearance, but the Joined Trill's space abilities are far better.

    The bonuses seem somewhat marginal though. I assume they make no real difference in practice. Do you guys have an opinion?

    Trill for stat boosts, Caitains for jumping.

    Trills have Spots, while Caitians have tails.
  • cantoneverettcantoneverett Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I just went Caitian, and I love it. However, I'm the kind of person who will abuse the engineer's ability o create platforms, just so I can jump around in areas I'm not supposed to go.
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