FERENGINAR system!!!

starfleetdan

Hello everyone, why not add the Ferenginar star system for missions whose purpose is to gain more Latinum! For example, the rescue of the great Nagus from the hands of the Universe Mirror, trade missions, social missions...etc?

starkaos

There first has to be a reason to earn Latinum before it makes sense to have this planet available.

Personally, I rather have some activities on the Risan planet such as a vendor that allows players to purchase swimwear.

darkstarkirian

starkaos wrote: »

There first has to be a reason to earn Latinum before it makes sense to have this planet available.

What he said^^

Personally, I rather have some activities on the Risan planet such as a vendor that allows players to purchase swimwear.

Unfortunely, this will be a Fed only thing, so I can't support it.
I need a Gorn in speedos

starkaos

Unfortunely, this will be a Fed only thing, so I can't support it.
I need a Gorn in speedos

Could have players with Tier 3 or higher in Marauding access Risa. Never made sense why we can enter enemy space, but not land on any planets.

lebtron

Yeah, sometimes i would really like to go home. I have no problems with the romulans loosing their world, they have no idea how to trade. But ferenginar is the center of the galaxy... And there could be some places to trade with latinum on ferenginar;)

darkstarkirian

starkaos wrote: »

Could have players with Tier 3 or higher in Marauding access Risa. Never made sense why we can enter enemy space, but not land on any planets.

I ment the swimsuit costume thing. It could be a temporary "costume", costume replacement, like the ship holo emitters but only works on Risa. That way there aren't Admirals running around ESD needing a full wax, if you know what I mean.
BUT
Considering Cryptic's position on costumes for the KDF, it will just be another onesided perk.

theultimatex

I'm all for improving Risa. Kind of seems like an after thought.

badname834854

I'd prefer to add the Lando system first.

jexsamx

darkstarkirian wrote: »

Unfortunely, this will be a Fed only thing, so I can't support it.

Well, what would a KDF equivalent look like? I really can't imagine any Klingon donning a pair of swim trunks and kicking back in the surf.

My first instinct would probably risk the game's rating being raised or at least altered, but an Orion-run KDF-accessible only "Gentlemen's Station" run by an especially sleazy little Ferengi would do the trick.

So maybe the equivalent to the Fed temporary swimsuit item would be a KDF items that summon dancing girls/boys when used near certain tables. So, say, the Feds get three variant swimsuits for both sexes, the KDF could get three different dancing holograms of both sexes (Orion, Vulcan, Alien[?]). Just like the swimsuits, the dancers could only be used at the club.

The dancers' outfits wouldn't be anything new, just the Orion assets most likely, and would probably just use the dances already available (including the nerve tonic dance because why not?), and it's not like you could actually use the station's holodecks for naughty things, so the game's ESRB rating might remain intact, actually...

bluegeek

Ahem... Back on topic...

Now that Ferengi females are allowed to wear clothes, and there would be no further risk of permanent mental scarring, I would love for the Ferengi homeworld to be represented in STO somehow.

The question is, what would we actually do there that couldn't be done in another "social zone"?

For it to be truly authentic, players would get charged fees and taxes in latinum left and right for almost anything...

Orbital Traffic Controller fee
Orbital Insertion fee
Transporter Usage tax
Landing fee
Shuttlecraft Parking fee
Starport Security fee
Pollution Control tax
Customs tax
Cargo Inspection fee
Controlled Materials Importation tax
Public Information Services surcharge
Visa Application fee
Trade License fee
Consumers' License fee

And that's all before you even get out of the spaceport.

theultimatex

bluegeek wrote: »

Ahem... Back on topic...

Now that Ferengi females are allowed to wear clothes, and there would be no further risk of permanent mental scarring, I would love for the Ferengi homeworld to be represented in STO somehow.

The question is, what would we actually do there that couldn't be done in another "social zone"?

For it to be truly authentic, players would get charged fees and taxes in latinum left and right for almost anything...

Orbital Traffic Controller fee
Orbital Insertion fee
Transporter Usage tax
Landing fee
Shuttlecraft Parking fee
Starport Security fee
Pollution Control tax
Customs tax
Cargo Inspection fee
Controlled Materials Importation tax
Public Information Services surcharge
Visa Application fee
Trade License fee
Consumers' License fee

And that's all before you even get out of the spaceport.

LOL. Believe it or not, I am all for that as long as there is a free spaceport above the planet with a Dabo machine for you to earn latinum in case you are low or run before visiting the planet. The fees can range between 1 to 10 pieces per tax, as 100 latinum is not hard to come by and you even need that amount in the first mission of the Jem Hadar featured episode.

Also, can we have back the requirement to pay 1 EC for ship and injury repairs. To supplant this cost, have stock items sell for 1 to more credits each for those players strapped for cash but need to repair their crew or ship after dying/damaging on Advanced and Elite. Why this hasn't happened yet is beyond me. Paying 0 "dollars" is stupid.

doubleohnine

bluegeek wrote: »

Ahem... Back on topic...

Now that Ferengi females are allowed to wear clothes, and there would be no further risk of permanent mental scarring, I would love for the Ferengi homeworld to be represented in STO somehow.

The question is, what would we actually do there that couldn't be done in another "social zone"?

For it to be truly authentic, players would get charged fees and taxes in latinum left and right for almost anything...

Orbital Traffic Controller fee
Orbital Insertion fee
Transporter Usage tax
Landing fee
Shuttlecraft Parking fee
Starport Security fee
Pollution Control tax
Customs tax
Cargo Inspection fee
Controlled Materials Importation tax
Public Information Services surcharge
Visa Application fee
Trade License fee
Consumers' License fee

And that's all before you even get out of the spaceport.

Yeah, they really make a killing off those insertion fees at the holosuites.

voporak

Let's not forget that you'd need to pay twice for each of the shuttle fees. One shuttle to land, and one to pick you up because you had to pay a 'nice' ferengi some latinum to park it for you.

bluegeek

voporak wrote: »

Let's not forget that you'd need to pay twice for each of the shuttle fees. One shuttle to land, and one to pick you up because you had to pay a 'nice' ferengi some latinum to park it for you.

Thanks, I forgot "Valet Service fee"

varool

bluegeek wrote: »

Ahem... Back on topic...

Now that Ferengi females are allowed to wear clothes, and there would be no further risk of permanent mental scarring, I would love for the Ferengi homeworld to be represented in STO somehow.

The question is, what would we actually do there that couldn't be done in another "social zone"?

For it to be truly authentic, players would get charged fees and taxes in latinum left and right for almost anything...

Orbital Traffic Controller fee
Orbital Insertion fee
Transporter Usage tax
Landing fee
Shuttlecraft Parking fee
Starport Security fee
Pollution Control tax
Customs tax
Cargo Inspection fee
Controlled Materials Importation tax
Public Information Services surcharge
Visa Application fee
Trade License fee
Consumers' License fee

And that's all before you even get out of the spaceport.

things have changed since Zek left office, this is an old vision which no longer holds up on the new version. You know what Rom is like, he is far more open minded, fairer and highly impressionable, especially to his human friends. some ferengi have turned their back on this new ferengi paradise and run their own ventures of greed. it is likely there is a more organised government less and less involved in latium ran markets and bribery.

bluegeek

Come to think of it, Ferenginar would be the one place where it would make perfect sense to be able to turn in Contraband, Dilithium, and other hard-to-get materials for EC's or GPL at a high profit margin.

Also, all kinds of interesting ideas run through my lobes when I consider how the upcoming Reputation system might come into play on a planet like Ferenginar...

darkstarkirian

bluegeek wrote: »

Now that Ferengi females are allowed to wear clothes, and there would be no further risk of permanent mental scarring, I would love for the Ferengi homeworld to be represented in STO somehow.

Beyond their face, there is no indication that anything that would cause mental scarring.

The question is, what would we actually do there that couldn't be done in another "social zone"?

THAt is the question. It could only be the acquisition of items that could not be gotten elsewhere. Yes, the true inseption of the GPL Store!

For it to be truly authentic, players would get charged fees and taxes in latinum left and right for almost anything...

Orbital Traffic Controller fee
Orbital Insertion fee
Transporter Usage tax
Landing fee
Shuttlecraft Parking fee
Starport Security fee
Pollution Control tax
Customs tax
Cargo Inspection fee
Controlled Materials Importation tax
Public Information Services surcharge
Visa Application fee
Trade License fee
Consumers' License fee

And that's all before you even get out of the spaceport.

I like this. It would provide a decent EC sink, would be very authentic and would help keep the cost of the GPL Store Items down.
"character@someplayer2345: FRAK! I can't afford to get past the Customs Tax! Where is the Dabo Wheel on this level?!"<-- Just incurred another Public Information Services surcharge

In fact, you get charged 1 GPL everytime you say someting in Chat, as a correspondence fee.

starfleetdan

The Marauder D'KORA & the shuttle NA'FAR could be purchased in one of their starbases!!!

leviathan99

bluegeek wrote: »

Come to think of it, Ferenginar would be the one place where it would make perfect sense to be able to turn in Contraband, Dilithium, and other hard-to-get materials for EC's or GPL at a high profit margin.

Also, all kinds of interesting ideas run through my lobes when I consider how the upcoming Reputation system might come into play on a planet like Ferenginar...

My suspicion is that more rep would mean fewer charges but that rep would also be mostly earned by providing dilithium, latinum, or contraband.

I also fail to see why this would be Fed only. The Ferengi have worked a lot with J'mpok's regime.

varool

interesting if this rep system is actually an illegality scale, i mean something like a perfect starfleet officer with 0 rep points to career crook and mob boss with 3.4m rep points. bribery will be off the scale!

cusashorn

According to that semi-official map of the galaxy representing political territories, Ferenginar would be located to the far north-west of the Deferi's sector.

fraghul2000

THAt is the question. It could only be the acquisition of items that could not be gotten elsewhere. Yes, the true inseption of the GPL Store!

This.

A GPL store, moving the Lobi store there from Drozana (and removing remote access through the crystal), high stakes Dabo, the Ferengi stock exchange (similar to the dilithium exchange, just with latinum/EC), a large-volume commodities broker with changing prices each day etc...

kirksplat

I'm wondering if it has to be canon or if Grand Nagus Rom has allowed "females" to wear clothing. Sorry if that comment is late to the thread.

kirksplat

bluegeek wrote: »

Ahem... Back on topic...

The question is, what would we actually do there that couldn't be done in another "social zone"?

My vote: Oo-Max mini-game

voporak

Maybe we'll get to see truly rigged dabo tables on Ferenginar?

markhawkman

darkstarkirian wrote: »

Beyond their face, there is no indication that anything that would cause mental scarring.

You forgot Moogie.....

jkname

I think that'd have to make GPL useful, first. And make it more practical to get. Like, say, raising the Dabo betting limit. I'm sorry, but when you are betting 300 over and over and over and over, it ceases to be gambling and becomes a statistical attack. One that you do while AFK with the mouse set to full auto and taped down. It's not even an interesting game, as there's nothing you can do to influence the outcome.

On top of that, it's useless. They should give us a currency exchange for this stuff so we can at least engage in market speculation with it.

azurianstar

starfleetdan wrote: »

Hello everyone, why not add the Ferenginar star system for missions whose purpose is to gain more Latinum! For example, the rescue of the great Nagus from the hands of the Universe Mirror, trade missions, social missions...etc?

For a long time, whenever Ferenginar was brought up, people always thought that would be the ideal place for High-Stakes Latinum gambling (to work on that insane 1 Million Latinum accolade).

And I once proposed that if there was a Trade / Merchant / Privateer faction, that Ferenginar would be an ideal hub for these people.

bluegeek wrote: »

Ahem... Back on topic...

Now that Ferengi females are allowed to wear clothes, and there would be no further risk of permanent mental scarring, I would love for the Ferengi homeworld to be represented in STO somehow.

The question is, what would we actually do there that couldn't be done in another "social zone"?

For it to be truly authentic, players would get charged fees and taxes in latinum left and right for almost anything...

Orbital Traffic Controller fee
Orbital Insertion fee
Transporter Usage tax
Landing fee
Shuttlecraft Parking fee
Starport Security fee
Pollution Control tax
Customs tax
Cargo Inspection fee
Controlled Materials Importation tax
Public Information Services surcharge
Visa Application fee
Trade License fee
Consumers' License fee

And that's all before you even get out of the spaceport.

Don't forget the various costs to go up the Tower of Commerse.

1 Bar of Latinum to use the Elevator
2 Bars of Latinum for the Administrative costs
5 Bars to see the Nagus

saekiith

Mhm... okay... Ferenginar... but ONLY if there is enough appropriate Ferengi Voiceovers!

intrepiduk

If one day we ever get a ferenginar planet, I would love there to be a Brunt (of the FCA) hologram that you can get side missions from.

starfleetdan

A Latinum asteroid (same thing about the dilithium), a Ferengi DOFF recruiter (cultural exchange), Tongo Game, diplomatic missions for the great Nagus !!