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dankt0404
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I keep toying with the idea of buying the rest of the points I need to get this but I'm not sure it's worth it.
So I figured I'd ask you folks.
My two big concerns are that I won't like the ship and that they will come out with something better.
Kinda like a fleet update of the Odyssey class.
Have any of you heard that?
I've got a engineer VA character that tends to fly a lot of escort ships or the Sovy for a change of pace.
Do you guys think I'll tend to like the pack if I get it?
So I figured I'd ask you folks.
My two big concerns are that I won't like the ship and that they will come out with something better.
Kinda like a fleet update of the Odyssey class.
Have any of you heard that?
I've got a engineer VA character that tends to fly a lot of escort ships or the Sovy for a change of pace.
Do you guys think I'll tend to like the pack if I get it?
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As for a Fleet Oddy, I've heard of no plans for such a thing. There is an Odyssey available through Fleet stuff at T5, I believe, but it's the slightly weaker free version they handed out in February.
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If they do come out with something better (a 11 Console ship?) then no doubt you would get discount for owning the T5 C-Store version...
Most of the reason for that is I don't have to much of a difference between them.
I like both but for how I've been using them I haven't noticed to much difference in damage.
One uses the hybrid cannons and the other uses some fancy beams.
The cannons do more for a second but the beams on the Sovy are far more consistant in damage output.
The 3 set console for the Odyssey looks attractive since, if I understand it, it would let me more or less do what both ships I'm using do in a single ship.
The little escort covers the cannons. True they aren't cannons I can change, but still cannons. The cheveron is a nice bonus to that doubles up on that.
And the worker bees seem to cover whats left over.
Would that be a accurate assesment?
I wish they had a feature where you could pick a ship and test fly it befor you buy it.
Note, if you're looking for the set for console set, you cannot use the chevron and aquarius consoles simultaneously. Don't know about workbees. Kind of pointless to have them both equipped as a result. It doesn't really matter, though, as the chevron is a much better console, anyways, esp for escort-style players (bc of the turn rate and weapons power boosts). I don't even use aquarius anymore, just chevron on the tac oddy.
Does make me wonder about the workbees now.
If only one of them can be active at a time then it sounds far less useful to have all 3 equipped. Though the passive set bonus looked nice.
I didn't even know to look for that before since I assumed like most people I think
that you could use them both at the same time.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=4122662
seems like he did a good job on describing things.
If you do buy it please post how it does for you. I might still consider it.
However, the Chevron Separation and the Aquarius Escort can't be used at the same time. Something about unfair advantage and/or tech limitations.
At least that's what I remember. It's been awhile, and I may be wrong.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
The official reasoning, as I understand it, was that this would render the MVAE obsolete.
Although I seriously doubt that. The Aquarius had it's armor traded in for cardboard, and the saucer section isn't worth much more, especially since I hardly ever see it using it's abilities. In six months of owning an Ody I think it's used ET on me once, and it seems to enjoy tractor beaming stationary objects.
The three consoles can and often are equipped together.
In fact, this is how you get the Odyssey set bonus. This bonus consists of a stat boost, in the form of a +12 to EPS, a +12 to hull reinforcement, and +12 to armor. It also gives about an extra 0.5 deg/sec for the turn rate and shortens the cooldown on the Odyssey console abilities (work bees, Aquarius and Saucer).
However, this comes at a nasty trade-off. Your supercruiser, although boosted, ends up with about seven consoles you can actually do things with. This rather heavily negates the 10 console advantage. This may leave you with some difficult choices. I'm left with the decision, for instance, of booting off an armor console, a field generator console, or go without the Borg console when I finally get it. Or use the Science Odyssey and rely on SA to make up for the third tac console I'd be losing.
A lot of people seem to just use the Work Bees and saucer separation. I may go with this, as the Aquarius just doesn't last long enough or hit hard enough for most, myself included.
Anyway, I'll add as a personal observation. I am not a cruiser man. I don't like playing Engineering anything. And I love the hell out of my Sci Oddy with my Sci captain in the big chair.
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The Aquarius is under AI control at all time. While it does use phaser cannons, these cannons, all in all, are rather underwhelming in total damage output. It also has quantum torpedoes, but same deal. Attack Pattern Alpha helps with this somewhat, but it tends to be shot down very quickly. It is somewhat frustrating to sit it smoldering in space.
The SAUCER SEPARATION, on the other hand, is MUCH better. It allows you to gain a considerable speed and agility advantage. You shed some armor and shields in the process, however; no getting around that. Nevertheless, the stardrive section is NOT an escort, and should not be flown like one. It's like a faster Assault Cruiser, really. Also, keep in mind that you'll probably be flying in combined mode most of the time, due in part to the cooldown on the saucer separation.
One other thing to keep in mind regarding saucer separation: it is NOT ABOUT getting the saucer as a helper. This is a massive misconception that seems to keep cropping up. It is about getting RID of the saucer so the Odyssey can transform from a whale into a shark. That the saucer helps is almost incidental. It can distract enemies to some extent, it can provide some marginal extra power, and on rare occasion its tractor beam or engineering team will come in handy, but that's about all it does, and probably about 2/3rds of the time it gets shot down as well, and I just ignore it, hope my DOffs are able to keep all those civilians from going splat while it sits helpless in space, and go on to kill the Borg with the stardrive section, because reuniting would just get me my slower ship back and a cooldown penalty.
Additionally in combined mode the Ody will be more bloated and slower than the AC. There is again not much you can do to get around this. Unlike the AC, RCS consoles don't do a whole lot (they don't do much for the AC, for that matter, but IMO it can still provide a worthwhile boost if you're judicious in your choice), and console space will be at a premium if you have the set.
I will say however that I am pretty happy with the Odyssey. It is a heavily armed, heavily armored dreadnaught with a lot of toys on board, although I do not believe I'd have been happy with it if I had not bought the set. It is currently competing with my Regent class for the title of my flagship on my tactical character.
This. I only equip the Aquarius for the set bonus (and it might drive me nuts to see the Aquarius lodged in the rear of my Ody and not be launchable), and I only send out the Aquarius because I happen to have it. It is, for the most part, not a detriment per se (although I wouldn't let it loose in Infected Space), but it isn't as much of an asset as it could be by a considerable amount.
In my opinion Engineer is the wrong class for an Odyssey. What you need to get the most bang for your buck is a Tactical. With a Tactical the whole pack makes for one INCREDIBLY tough ship that can dish out some SERIOUS damage (with the right setup) and take an unruly pounding.
The best I can really do is show you a video of mine pwning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jecJVdGJt-A
If I buy the Odyssey now will that character get the pack to when they hit VA?
Oh, and BTW, I have enough dilithium saved up to make the whole pack cost about as much as one of the ships would. Or I could I suppose just buy one of the ships....
You could of course just get one ship, but it's like buying a cake and not getting to eat the last couple of slices. If you want to get everything out of the Odyssey you have to have the full set.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.