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starfleetdan
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I have an idea to propose about a new STO start! Why not start STO with the CADET rank?
1) The CADET rank could be offer 4 levels of basic tutorials (weapons learning with holo characters, movements...etc) in the academy Holodeck (without forget 4 pips and uniform emblems in the character custom engine)...
2) The ENSIGN rank (on 10 levels) would be based on the exploration of sectors, the crafting system (for a advanced tutorial)...etc!
1) The CADET rank could be offer 4 levels of basic tutorials (weapons learning with holo characters, movements...etc) in the academy Holodeck (without forget 4 pips and uniform emblems in the character custom engine)...
2) The ENSIGN rank (on 10 levels) would be based on the exploration of sectors, the crafting system (for a advanced tutorial)...etc!
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Not sure if I agree with this but I would like to see rank and level stripped apart.
Especially since you can't just respawn no matter how many times you blow up you will get the win eventually
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can respawn * of course
Higher than Captain so you feel you accomplished something but low enough to have it believable that there's lots of them.
Not so much with the Vice Admiral and Admiral and Fleet Admiral and such...
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Even though those 10 levels would go fairly quickly. What about people who don't like crafting or the exploration systems?
You're going to force people to do content they'd rather not. All because some people have issues with the current Vice Admiral rank.
I hardly think that's a good solution to what is a fairly minor problem.
Instead of the exploration and crafting, the patrols of Sirius and Regulus would be ideal for cadet training cruises.
(Is different rank & level path!)
Based surely on the academy. With all tests that a Youth of Starfleet officer would have
with Cadet Shuttle Assignments & a Cadet ship.
They could put in 'Commodore' somewhere between Captain and Rear Admiral :P
Since Starfleet has no such rank since the previous century, how would you justify its return?
The same way they justified and explained the Commadore rank's removal in the 24th century. :eek:;):D
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They justified its removal on the basis that the US Navy had removed it, and that was the model they followed. For that same justification to work for reinstating it, the US Navy would have to reinstate it.
The US Navy has a standing history of discontinuing and reinstating the Commodore rank until finally renaming the rank to Rear Admial Lower Half. The rank was generally discontinued in periods in which the nation was not at war. The rank was discontinued in 1899 but, was reinstated during World War II. Now that the Federation is in a state of war, the Council does have the right to reinstate the rank if they see fit.
Note: The Title of Commodore is still used in the US Navy for Captains the command multiple ships such as a group of destroyers or submarines.
They have already stated that the majority of players are max level, so their development efforts are going to be focused on max level content. It makes no sense remaking the early levels of the game if it does nothing for the majority of your players.
To be fair, it wouldn't be the first time that a military organization has brought back older ranks and started using them again.
In the US Army for example, there was a time in which a Corporal was almost unheard of, everyone went from Private First Class (E3) to Spec 4 (E4) to Sgt (E5).
Seeing how the Federation is at war now, they might find that they have need of such a thing again.
Considering the two are litereally centuries apart this is not really logical if we look at the matter from an in-universe standpoint.
And there's that minor detail that the Federation is made up of over 150 planets.
Why should the Federation have to model its military based on that of one particular nation of one particular planet in one particular era?
Because the Federation is Human-centric, as Earth seems to be the primary governmental body.
Because things would be very confusing if they modeled it after two or more of them.
Don't you mean anglocentric considering there are navies out there who still have the rank of commodore but only the US Navy is worth modeling Starfleet after?
One of the things Majel Barrett-Roddenberry once said was that her husband went to seek intelligent life out there and he found it: the audience.
So why should creativity be discouraged like that?
It's no less confusing than changing the absurd rule that everyone needs to have a captain's rank to command a starship to everyone who commands a starship is called captain regardless of rank.
*EDIT addendum: that seemed to be in effect in TOS and Star Trek 1*
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Same here, at least to a certain point. I'm an avid fan of the idea that the ingame ranks should be limited to those who you'd actually find commonly being in command of a starship. Lieutenant throughout the tutorial, Lt. Cmdr. when you get command of your first ship afterwards, followed by Commander at 20 and Captain at 40.
I'd love to see a system where the ranks of RA and VA would be tied to certain hard-to-reach achievements after reaching Level 50. The accolade system could be tied into that.
This is what should happen:
Level 1-2 Cadet
3-10 Ensign
11-20 Lt.
21-30 Ltc
31-40 Cdr
41-50 Captain
There you get your cadet! And we get our canon level setup.
EDIT: O_o i forgot LT rank LOL
Now i like Accoldes to achive Centain ranks
How about titles/ranks to your accolade points
5k Accolade points while ur at captain rank makes u a "Decorated Captain" with a costume unlock with metals
10k Accolade points makes you a Starfleet Veteran With a costume similar to the first Veteran unlock.
But i also want these to be account wide. It sucks to grind out something on every character.
"yes no Admirals" If there are a few admrials players will start to complain. Decorated captain will give u a slightly diferent Rank Pins and a Metal next to your name. (Account wide)
Also the ability to show off our titles in space would be nice.
I like this. The idea that 90% of the ships out there are commanded by admirals always rubbed me a bit wrong. I wouldn't even mind stretching lt cmdr and cmdr to cover up to say level 46.
I wouldn't mind an admiral rank, but it should be something that is extremely difficult to make. Say be a fleet leader and have a minimum veteran level, have been logged in a minimum number of hours and played a minimum number of missions (to avoid 1 man fleets with anti-afk keyboard scripts). Make the last two something ridiculous so only the most die hard STO lovers can ever hope to make the grade. 10000 hours played and 5000 missions completed or something. And give it just a little buff, so the rest of us won't be heart broken and walk away sulking when we realize we will never make it. But it would be cool to have some people we can all oooh and ahhh about when we see them. Shoot, just make game masters admirals and have them actually in the game at times.
Not willig to loose Lieutenant for ten levels of cadet sorry.
I would offer Cadet 1-3 Ensign 4-10 and Lieutenant 10-20 LtC 21-30 and so on
And ships in STO 2 need to make sense based on their warp core - not just 3 types using a mix of tank, damage, healer, controller. Basically all the things Cryptic refused to do.
Well to add to this, made Cadet a title you are while you are on Earth doing the tutorial. Let them have classes, a bunch, so when they leave they have some kind of knowledge. Have a scoring board so people actually have a goal. Once you actually Finish ALL courses, you get the rank of Ensign. (When you graduate you get a shuttle lmao! Need more shuttle missions, "This is Starfleet, we are low on ships so umm Here is a Shuttle, Live as long as you can and try your best to prosper in some way.")
The idea of being a decorated captain is great, being able to put badges on your suit is a cool idea for something extremely important, or taking part in a Community Event that has an actual story behind it.
For instance, in 3 days those filthy Klingons are staging an assault on Starfleet planets (12 hour time frame) get in and help defend it! They obtained the information from an Omega Operative who found it out from espionage. (Wish Espionage had a more major part, a spy division... dreaming out loud).
As far as account wide? no. Those other Characters where not Heroes on the U.S.S. Giggity. They were not in use so why make it account wide?
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think the game needs way more story content before we nitpick little things like what my pixie rank says
ps best to hope for is a title
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