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commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
Well, since we have little on this issue and it seems we have no word if and when any method to differentiate them from other DOFFs on the exchange is being pursued, I attempted to make a complete list of the afflicted DOFFs. Notice this list may be incomplete (I only bought 500 Fleet DOFFs), if you see any errors or have any others please feel free to post them.

NOTE - These are Federation Only atm

Scientists denoted with an * are misclassified as medical
Armory Officers denoted with an * are misclassified as tactical.


Armory Officers
  • Blake Kandice Dutil
  • Luyong
  • Mollie Olivia Parreno*
  • T'Plul*

Assault Squad Officers
  • Gafron
  • Lenal Othadi
  • Marty Ilana Hamid

Biochemists
  • Adip Yjhlam
  • Amos Marcel Spriggs
  • Dnetaas
  • Siponu
  • Tassha Vohr
  • T'Trol

Biologist
  • Cozed*
  • Denita Eleanora Killbride*
  • Tepba*
  • Terrence Teddy Israelsen*
  • Vamut*

Botanists
  • Saapona*
  • Shomas Tall*
  • Shril Vyhl*

Conn Officers
  • Doyle Sid Uno
  • Gerba
  • Josiah Olin Pujalis
  • T'Pur

Counselors
  • Eugena Maranda Gunselman

Damage Control Engineers
  • Phell'nol Othoti
  • Sherrell Anabel Keilholz

Deflector Officers
  • Barbera Dione Dilts
  • Phrol Ehoni
  • Setik
  • Stefan Jeramy Many
  • Tnad
  • Toda

Developmental Lab Scientists
  • Gashnot*
  • Jerrod Rodrick Mohsin*
  • Molik*
  • Nazda*
  • Rassal T'shoph*
  • Shron Ysiri*
  • T'Mini*

Diagnostic Engineers
  • Green
  • Maalack
  • Thyres D'jhev

Doctors
  • Arnoldo Calvin Postley
  • Cierra Phylicia Gorham
  • Tedef
  • Vaalek

Energy Weapons Officers
  • Byn'men B'thoph
  • Jaaassang
  • She'rak D'shiph
  • T'Pia


Explosives Experts
  • Lotiz
  • Pire
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  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Fabrication Engineers
    • Kenton Reyes Trabold
    • T'Rira

    Flight Deck Officers
    • Alol
    • Blissa
    • Bynam Ethryb
    • Ernesto Ty Rosebrock
    • Glen Ezekiel Gamero
    • Kelsi Georgiann Schnick
    • Kena
    • Luther Grady Brent
    • Nephla Dill
    • Paafrir
    • Paan
    • Shonan Issoleph
    • Tat
    • Tevip
    • Thas G'phoph
    • T'Pono
    • Yang Gabriella Sirwet

    Geologists
    • Nivaneth Yphrym
    • Shraz Yzrym
    • T'Puri
    • Zuma

    Gravimetric Scientists
    • Dcazaad
    • Donnie Gale Geitner
    • Georgeanna Thi Carsten
    • Lorza
    • Rota
    • Sasup
    • Tin'bem Pirn
    • V'Los

    Ground Warfare Specialists
    • Tot
    • Bara
    • Deda
    • Hedat
    • Helen So Pesner
    • Jerrell Cristobal Iopa
    • Maurita Jenice Jankoff
    • Noe Clarence Coro
    • Rereh Evlem
    • Rinys Dein
    • T'Penma
    • V'Lal
    • Yulor
    • Ztalaas

    Hazzard Systems Officers
    • Nelpha Yshrym
    • T'Shumaat

    Matter-Antimatter Specialists
    • Pesl
    • Than Oshini

    Nurses
    • Julene Trinity Gottka
    • Marvin Lemuel Lout
    • Nedeh
    • Sarer

    Photonic Studies Scientists
    • Cary Lino Batalona

    Quartermasters
    • Emmie Debra Rushia
    • Gajhal D'shaph
    • Paf
    • T'Pinna

    Research Lab Scientists
    • Rassas Ehasi*
    • Thalys Osrodiv*
    • Voruril*
    • Zudta*

    Security Officers
    • Batp
    • Bev Lelia Dapolo
    • Nalvit
    • Nesza T'hiph

    Shield Distribution Officers
    • Bopel
    • Dkanaan

    Space Warfare Specialists
    • Atal
    • Brad Archie Hebsch
    • Bsinsa
    • Ferrah Tarra Basone
    • Guillermo Amos Kenaga
    • Kyjhel Hihr
    • Lessel Aphisi
    • Nalol T'thyv
    • Raye Fran Cardeiro
    • Sepina
    • Shriz Plin
    • Stilp
    • Suzda
    • Tall
    • Tharyn Ovyzi
    • Vsotsh

    System Engineers
    • Syfir
    • Xiz

    Tractor Beam Officers
    • Dashra Bern
    • Ernesto Ty Rosebrock
    • Zatta

    Transporter Officers
    • Taylor Desirae Philhower
    • Tevup

    Warp Core Engineers
    • Vololes

    Warp Theorist
    • Luna Maryrose Avary
  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Here is the list for Klingon Fleet DOFFs, sorry I was only able to get 300 or so. This list will be far more incomplete than the Fed List. Please add others if you come across them as I do not think I will be making another big effort to flesh this out myself.

    Scientists denoted with an * are misclassified as medical
    Armory and Security Officers denoted with an * are misclassified as tactical.


    Armory Oficers
    • Ch'Rote*
    • Lymif*

    Assault Squad Officers
    • Kerani
    • Malmaz
    • R'at

    Biochemists
    • Krinnin
    • N'Nosh
    • Rtherg
    • Taram

    Biologists
    • Karnen*
    • Kevluht*
    • Kranto*
    • Nogun*
    • Rrivash*

    Botanists
    • Goris*
    • Ihri*
    • Jamifreel*
    • Penha*

    Conn Officers
    • Nireg

    Counselors
    • Tuzane

    Damage Control Engineers
    • Kthesh

    Deflector Officers
    • Avugkar
    • Erhi
    • Thegathem

    Developmental Lab Scientists
    • Amoza*
    • Imbor*
    • Lemngovu*
    • Leuve*
    • Srashesh*

    Diagnostic Engineers
    • Nesro
    • Seriorz

    Doctors
    • Hodah
    • Kara
    • Morgak
    • Orju

    Energy Weapons Officers
    • Lengesi
    • Sali

    Explosives Experts
    • Bar'al
    • Rusriz
    • Slosth
    • S'tarrk
    • Voxeh

    Fabrication Engineers
    • K'Gamak
    • Trathess
  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Flight Deck Officers
    • B'Ator
    • Ch'Ruto
    • Era'thash
    • Gthash
    • Huthaz
    • Ketagh
    • Koro
    • Lanngal
    • Lulli
    • Neinu
    • Rare
    • Saat
    • Seathe
    • Siliorh
    • S'Rathoth
    • S'tarrg
    • T'larrt

    Geologists
    • Conige
    • Lonah*
    • Purom
    • Shikishan

    Gravimetric Scientists
    • Brak'ton
    • Kledus
    • Nogo
    • Sles
    • Syenad
    • Xirish

    Ground Warfare Specialists
    • Athudpar
    • Deivu
    • Ilshe
    • Kahnor
    • Khohlog
    • Laskat
    • Lorzu
    • Magna
    • Nalri
    • Nuslidd
    • Rute
    • Thitaham
    • Trassh

    Hazard Systems Officers
    • Syan

    Matter-Antimatter Engineers
    • Traar

    Medics
    • Dloxen
    • Gocrin
    • Kevlast
    • Necud

    Quartermasters
    • K'lthluyr
    • Sith

    Research Lab Scientists
    • Diehi*
    • Grishsi*
    • S'areh*

    Security Officers
    • Keedare*
    • Morol
    • Mulse*
    • Nermav*
    • Plaxen

    Shield Distribution Officers
    • Marford

    Space Warfare Specialists
    • Clelmit
    • Derth
    • Emkur
    • Gaddul
    • Jaria
    • Krossi
    • Leishi
    • Shanevliat
    • Shiss
    • Taheno
    • Traavsh
    • Tsa'Dak

    Systems Engineer
    • Lynash
    • Rath

    Tractor Beam Officers
    • Barak
    • Slahh

    Transporter Officers
    • B'Abur
    • R'tirrt
    • Mumoz
  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Saved for growth
  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I will keep this one open for additional growth. Also note that these are only the commons.

    Buyer Beware, you will not be able to slot these doffs in your Fleet Projects.
  • bumperthumperbumperthumper Member Posts: 513 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I haven't run into this problem yet, but if the classifications are, in fact, incorrect, then something needs to be done about it immediately. Otherwise, anyone and everyone who has bought a Doff off the exchange is going to be demanding refunds if they were mislead.

    Like I said, I haven't encountered this, but if I did, I would very upset w/ECs spent and Doffs traded.
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  • kokushibyokokushibyo Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Thanks for the list. Will have to consult it every time I buy a doff now. "Working as intended," indeed.
  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Updated list to now include a bunch of the Klingon Fleet DOFFs to avoid.
  • hasukurobihasukurobi Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Good work on that list... It is truly abhorrent that such a thing MUST exist.
  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Nice. No substitute for a fix, since most people don't read the forums, but very very nice. Thank you.
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  • l0cutus359l0cutus359 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    syberghost wrote: »
    Nice. No substitute for a fix, since most people don't read the forums, but very very nice. Thank you.

    Woo hoo!

    Great work!

    Thanks!

    Interesting....it still appears that no sensor doffs are being spit out by the Starbase ATM ..... We finally finished that "lovely" project

    <sigh>
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  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    l0cutus359 wrote: »
    Interesting....it still appears that no sensor doffs are being spit out by the Starbase ATM ..... We finally finished that "lovely" project

    Well, at least that means Sensor doffs in the Exchange are safe. :)
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  • l0cutus359l0cutus359 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    syberghost wrote: »
    Well, at least that means Sensor doffs in the Exchange are safe. :)

    How do u think i finished that dang project!

    LOL
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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    It's not true that there's been only silence.

    Borticus said this: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=5437321#post5437321

    Admittedly it's not much, but it's not silence anymore.
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  • forjoatinxanforjoatinxan Member Posts: 88 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    trek21 wrote: »
    It's not true that there's been only silence.

    Borticus said this: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=5437321#post5437321

    Admittedly it's not much, but it's not silence anymore.

    At the time of the OP, there had been only silence. So much that Borticus actually apologized for it.

    Just setting the record straight.

    And there really should be a game-wide announcement about it in the bulletins. This is affecting a lot of people and one obscure dev message isn't significant nor is its limited scope appropriate.

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  • theanothernametheanothername Member Posts: 1,512 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Thanks for this list commodoreshrvk :)

    IMO this should be made a sticky until a ingame solution ist found.
  • captainmerzancaptainmerzan Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    kokushibyo wrote: »
    Thanks for the list. Will have to consult it every time I buy a doff now. "Working as intended," indeed.

    yea the i dont like there working as intended comints they made over the years like that make a mess right lol
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  • gradstudent1gradstudent1 Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Let me add my own note of gratitude for your putting together of this list. I have to say, however, that I have not run into this problem whatsoever and have purchased many many DOFFs for my KDF base. In any case, if this is game-wide, then the devs need to address this immediately, comprehensively, and in a way that most if not every player is made aware of this. That is, it needs to be announced in game, through in-game email, on the website, and clearly in the patch notes.

    Let's hope that the folks at Priority One and other podcasts will also keep us updated on this matter, should it prove to be as problematic as your data suggests.


    Again, you have our gratitude.
  • eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
    edited August 2012
    Technicians are missing. :)
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  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Technicians are missing. :)

    What are there names?

    Also realize everyone not all Specs. occur for Fleet DOFFs. Fleet DOFFs should only represent the specs that have additional/alternate Buffs. a.k.a the Reinforcements Pack DOFFs. The original intention of Fleet DOFFs was therefore most likely to provide an alternate mechanism for obtaining these DOFF abilities as a reward for participating in the DOFF system. Not as a supplement to Fleet Project slotting. That was most likely an unintended, yet beneficial side-effect they may have tried to rectify. Thus there are NO FLEET SENSORS OFFICERS.

    If the change was intended to close the hole for dilithium and CXP generation because it was feared an exploit, I have posted in numerous places why this was a fallacy and a knee-jerk reaction. So if I can turn 1,000 fleet doffs into 75,000 dilithium...I still need 10 character days to refine that. What it meant is I could play the game at my own pace for 10 days before having to worry about grinding dilithium. In addition, even if I sent that to 10 characterd and did it in one day, it would mean I would have spent 500,000 Fleet Credits and would have to grind away at the fleet system more to get that amount again.

    Point is, it was an uncessesary knee-jerk fix to a beneficial side-effect. Both the Fleet System (Time and magnitude and diversity of other resource inputs) and Dilithium System (Cap on daily refinement levels, cap on maximum refined and unrefined dilithium amounts)have buffers in place for this already. This just needlessly broke the system.

    Revert the change and let the players play the game!!
  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    syberghost wrote: »
    Nice. No substitute for a fix, since most people don't read the forums, but very very nice. Thank you.

    Might I be able to persuade you to sticky this and remove "Federation" from the title since I have added the Klingon Counterparts??? :)
  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    trek21 wrote: »
    It's not true that there's been only silence.

    Borticus said this: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=5437321#post5437321

    Admittedly it's not much, but it's not silence anymore.

    Updated the OP.
  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    ...I have to say, however, that I have not run into this problem whatsoever and have purchased many many DOFFs for my KDF base...

    Hmmm...this brings up a good point I could test tonight. I am going to test buying one from the exchange that is known not to slot in Starbase Projects, then try to slot it.

    Perhaps for some unknwon codeing reason putting it up on the exchange, then buying it clears the no-use flag.

    Has anyone tested this? Even further, has anyone tested sending one in the mail to an alt and trying it?

    If either of those work, then the change really has no effect whatsoever and caused far more issues than it solved.
  • l0cutus359l0cutus359 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Hmmm...this brings up a good point I could test tonight. I am going to test buying one from the exchange that is known not to slot in Starbase Projects, then try to slot it.

    Perhaps for some unknwon codeing reason putting it up on the exchange, then buying it clears the no-use flag.

    Has anyone tested this? Even further, has anyone tested sending one in the mail to an alt and trying it?

    If either of those work, then the change really has no effect whatsoever and caused far more issues than it solved.

    I have confirmed the problem with a few of the fleet doffs on the list via purchasing from the Exchange. They will not work on the Starbase Projects.

    I have not tried mailing them to myself, I refuse to go thru those hoops for a stupid patch where tribble testing feedback was ignored.

    Thx
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  • oldkirkfanoldkirkfan Member Posts: 1,263 Arc User
    edited August 2012
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    Sorry for the ongoing silence on this issue, folks.

    We recognize the inconvenience that a lack of clear indicator has caused on the Exchange, and are still discussing additional (or alternative) solutions to the underlying mechanics we were seeking to address.

    I'm afraid we can't comment further than that on the issue at the moment. Just wanted to let you all know that it is definitely on our radar, and under discussion for additional resolution.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I can savely say that any fleet doff only has 2 attributes...should make it easy to sepperate them.
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  • clearbeardclearbeard Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    baudl wrote: »
    I can savely say that any fleet doff only has 2 attributes...should make it easy to sepperate them.

    If that is indeed true it's a useful bit of info, at least for picking safe ones. There are, however, many non-fleet doffs with only 2 attributes so it's yet another imperfect solution.
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