Cryptic, pls fix the fvk pvp queues for lieutenant

trueprom3theus

I'm leveling a new fed tune, and it's funny to see ppl queuing for fvk... Last night were 5 feds in fvk arena and 3 on fvk cap and hold for lieutenant level. They don't know klings start at commander.

Cryptic, could you please fix those queues? It's been a year almost since they are messed up and new players have no clue that no kling will fight them at lt level. Or at least put a message on the queue screen to let them know.

piwright42

The good natured PvP'er in me whole heartedly agrees with this thread. We should start KDF play sooner than LtC. It would help flesh out the faction and possibly increase the faction's population a little, (not as much as Level 1-50 KDF play but hey we are a long way off from that wet dream so I'll take what I can get).

The skeptic in me says, "Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha hahahah aha aha *chokes on laugh* hqa aha haa haa aha ha aha aha ha ah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah! Not gonna happen. Hahahahahahahahahahahahah hah ahhahaha hahah ahahahaha hahah!"

Ah the tears of a KDF clown. Much better at powering Fed LOLboats than Fed rage tears ever powered a KDF ship of the line.

travelingmaster

piwright42 wrote: »

The good natured PvP'er in me whole heartedly agrees with this thread. We should start KDF play sooner than LtC. It would help flesh out the faction and possibly increase the faction's population a little, (not as much as Level 1-50 KDF play but hey we are a long way off from that wet dream so I'll take what I can get).

The skeptic in me says, "Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha hahahah aha aha *chokes on laugh* hqa aha haa haa aha ha aha aha ha ah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah! Not gonna happen. Hahahahahahahahahahahahah hah ahhahaha hahah ahahahaha hahah!"

Ah the tears of a KDF clown. Much better at powering Fed LOLboats than Fed rage tears ever powered a KDF ship of the line.

The whole reason KDF starts at LTC is because the faction ultimately lacks content. I last leveled a KDF before the compression, and I literally had to use Mirror Universe events to level quickly (I wasn't really interested in plodding through most of the same storyline missions I'd done before). Without the Mirror events, leveling would've gone 2-3x slower.

Keep things compressed, until Cryptic/PWE are prepared to give the KDF faction the storyline content it needs to fill those spaces.

trueprom3theus

Actually you said something better than me: to add more kdf content so that they wont need to modify the queues. Lol. But that's more a hahaha than fixing the queues. Thing is that fixing few minor issues such as queues and fleet marks for pvp would contribute to improving pvp. Hey, it would be a start that won't require lots of resources.

sollvax

stop the scaling and level caping

if those 5 feds want to fight 5 klingons put them up against the first 5 klingons in the queue

(or later on the first 15 romulans)

trueprom3theus

sollvax wrote: »

stop the scaling and level caping

if those 5 feds want to fight 5 klingons put them up against the first 5 klingons in the queue

(or later on the first 15 romulans)

And they'll get trashed in 2 minutes and 4 of them may never pvp again. The difference between lt and ltc is too big to make that happen.

Thing is that new players, or even veteran players that never researched the kdf or have a kdf tune don't know the faction starts as ltc. Pvp starts for Feds as lt5, as when the game was released, lt 5 was the level kdf started (vs ltc it starts now).

sollvax

Klingons start at COMMANDER (not lt com)

and peoples first pvp experience should be getting their head handed to them
because very simply it will teach them the important lesson

PVP you are going to lose as often as you win (unless you cheat)

trueprom3theus

sollvax wrote: »

Klingons start at COMMANDER (not lt com)

and peoples first pvp experience should be getting their head handed to them
because very simply it will teach them the important lesson

PVP you are going to lose as often as you win (unless you cheat)

You are correct, it starts as commander and I think klings used to start at ltc, not lt5, my bad, it's been a while since I leveled my tunes and I messed it up...

Regarding the difference of skill, matching a lt 5 or even ltc with a kdf commander will still result in a fast butt kick, the difference between weapons and ships is just too big. Even the mother of all premades will loose a match at ltc level vs a commander pug. There are just not enough abilities to cross heal and not enough dps to quickly kill a superior tier ship.

borticuscryptic

This was supposed to be fixed already. I'll look into it.

trueprom3theus

borticuscryptic wrote: »

This was supposed to be fixed already. I'll look into it.

Much appreciated bort, thanks!

bitemepwe

I miss the old days of PvPing as a fresh KDF toon up from Lt, from simple to complex. By Kahless, those where fun days for the KDF.
Another reason to complete the KDF and let them start from level 1.

empireofsteve

bitemepwe wrote: »

I miss the old days of PvPing as a fresh KDF toon up from Lt, from simple to complex. By Kahless, those where fun days for the KDF.
Another reason to complete the KDF and let them start from level 1.

Same here. Pvp at that level was simple and fun with a bit more of a challenge since there were less abilities.