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Please make the Fleet Galaxy Classes Engineering Ensign a Universal BO.

frostyslyfrostysly Member Posts: 42 Arc User
edited August 2012 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Hey there Cryptic!!! :-)

As an advancement on the fleetversion of the Galaxy class, could you please make the ensign BO-slot into a universal one? It is totally pointless having 3 engineering ensign powers, because they mostly have a shared cooldown with the better ones you recieve at higher ranks.
If not universal, at least Tac or Sci...

Thank you for your time!
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  • UnknownUnknown
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  • cedricophoffcedricophoff Member Posts: 153 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Why would they GIVE you that when it could be used to fuel another Lockbox, or just C-store for that matter. You DO still have money in your wallets burning holes inthere right mmm? GIEF to your PWE overlords!
  • frostyslyfrostysly Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    cedricophoff wrote: »
    Why would they GIVE you that when it could be used to fuel another Lockbox, or just C-store for that matter. You DO still have money in your wallets burning holes inthere right mmm? GIEF to your PWE overlords!

    I do not want this thread to turn into a "I'm so mad because I cant have everything for free" argument.

    Besides I dont think that Cryptic will alter the Galaxy class just because little me asks for it. But I thought I'd just mention it.
  • bloctoadbloctoad Member Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Any ship with uni slots should take an equivalent hit in stats.
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  • dant158#3249 dant158
    dant158#3249
         Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The same layout with ensigns in tac, sci and eng can be had fedside already. Why do you need a uni, when the option exists already?
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  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited August 2012
    Agreed

    It also need a turn rate increase +2

    The deflector shot would be nice as well

    The ship should be competitive with the best
    Fed cruisers it's the Icon ship for most of us
    Who like cruisers I'n the first place

    The +5 power changed to +15

    They could charge zen then most of the next
    Generation fans would buy it as a competitive
    Ship

    Not the worthless ship it is now

    If anyone disagrees get your engineer character
    And the Gal r and jump onto a STF Elite

    Or better yet pvp
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  • dant158#3249 dant158
    dant158#3249
         Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    fulleatherjacket wrote: »
    Because people like the ship itself. Please don't feign ignorance on this one because you've had these arguments explained to you before. A lot of people don't like being penalised with a crappy boff layout for flying the ship that they like the most.

    Again, I would refute the claim that people liking a ship is a legitimate reason to invalidate two other ships.

    Don't like the boff slots? There are other options.
    The looks is more important than the boffs? Carry on using whatever you like the look of (boff slots probably mostly irrelevant to this group anyway)
  • frostyslyfrostysly Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    my hope was that posting my wish beeing a very small change in a "future" ship would eventually come true. Sorry for my bad english, I've been living in Germany too long and I'm loosing it :-)
  • carmenaracarmenara Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    frostysly wrote: »
    my hope was that posting my wish beeing a very small change in a "future" ship would eventually come true. Sorry for my bad english, I've been living in Germany too long and I'm loosing it :-)

    No problem either Englisch or Deutsch is completely fine on this forums. Lmao.

    Anyways I do not mind seeing a refit of the retrofit Galaxy. After all they were working on the Galaxy Ship Pack + bonus interior for some time now and it would be nice to see the old bird upgraded with proper 25th century capability on par but still below that of the Odyssey, Regent, etc.

    Excuse:

    All of them Dominion War veterans have looked over youtube videos of the new Regent class and are jealous that little pancake is on par with the Tac Odyssey, the flagship of the Federation! What bollocks!

    They went to their favourite shipyard on Mars and secretly planned a refit or the galaxy retrofit :D
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  • decker03decker03 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    This topic comes up over and over and over again, but somehow the devs seem to miss every single thread. Either that's one of the mysteries of the universe or really impressive selective perception.

    Specially now with the Fleet Negh'var and the Fleet Patrol Escort an ensign universal for the (Fleet) Galaxy seems to be pretty obvious and necessary. The Galaxies bridge officer layout combined with its stats never was shiny compared to other Fed cruisers. Giving her an universal ensign does NOT suddenly turn her into an Assault Cruiser or Star Cruiser, there are still differences. Just look at the example of the Fleet Patrol Escort, same seating as an Advanced Escort can be created, but surprise surprise the normal Advanced is still here and has its own uniqueness.

    As for the people that think the look of their ship is not important at all and we should just fly what gives the best stats. I'm really feeling sorry for them, but I'm glad their opinion doesn't represent more than their own limited point.

    P.S. And to add to it further. I would immediatly ditch my Fleet Star Cruiser for a Galaxy if I could create a valid PvP setup for her with the Star Cruisers performance (see BOFF seating).
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  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Cryptic would make ton of money, if they sold cruiser layouts and cruiser skins apart.
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  • dant158#3249 dant158
    dant158#3249
         Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    fulleatherjacket wrote: »
    I am not suggesting other ships be invalidated. Besides, no ship is invalidated just because there is another ship with the same or similar boff layout. By your logic, the mirror ships invalidate the current assault and star cruisers.
    Wrong.
    The mirror ships can take the place of either an assault cruiser or star cruiser with the others skin. They can't be both ships, which a uni ensign galaxy could.
    Since you refuse to acknowledge this as a legitimate request, I'd like you to stop posting about it. Your opinion is known and your mind won't be changed

    What?
    This is an opinion board and as long as there are topics that I have an opinion on I'll keep posting about it, thanks very much.

    By the way, you could easily turn that point around and apply it to yourself, no?
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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    decker03 wrote: »
    This topic comes up over and over and over again, but somehow the devs seem to miss every single thread. Either that's one of the mysteries of the universe or really impressive selective perception.

    Specially now with the Fleet Negh'var and the Fleet Patrol Escort an ensign universal for the (Fleet) Galaxy seems to be pretty obvious and necessary. The Galaxies bridge officer layout combined with its stats never was shiny compared to other Fed cruisers. Giving her an universal ensign does NOT suddenly turn her into an Assault Cruiser or Star Cruiser, there are still differences. Just look at the example of the Fleet Patrol Escort, same seating as an Advanced Escort can be created, but surprise surprise the normal Advanced is still here and has its own uniqueness.

    As for the people that think the look of their ship is not important at all and we should just fly what gives the best stats. I'm really feeling sorry for them, but I'm glad their opinion doesn't represent more than their own limited point.

    P.S. And to add to it further. I would immediatly ditch my Fleet Star Cruiser for a Galaxy if I could create a valid PvP setup for her with the Star Cruisers performance (see BOFF seating).
    I 100% agree.

    The Galaxy is one of the most Iconic Star Trek ships even more than the Sovereign, if you ask me.
    Since STO started, many players wanted this ship to have more offensive capabilities, but they are being ignored by the devs over and over.
    Especially the Galaxy Class should have one of the most flexible BO and Console layouts of all Starfleet Cruisers IMHO.
    (everyone who has read the technical manual is going to agree with me i hope.)
    I would even turn it's science Lt. into a universal one.

    I just don't get it, they could make tons of money if they would release a up to date Galaxy Class, on par with the Odyssey or any other (better) Fleet ship.

    Some of us are Star Trek fans, everyone has a favorite ship and there are MANY TNG fans (or at least most of us grew up with TNG), so i think it's just natural that the Galaxy Class is one of the most famous vessels, why do the devs disregard this ship (and cruisers in general) so much?
    (Personally i think they choose the wrong francise when they bought the rights of STO, lol)

    For some of us, the ship comes first then it's performance (stats, BO Layout and so on).
    If the Ship we like does not perform as expected or just underperforms compared to other ships, it's clear that some are unhappy. Unhappy customers (or customer which are being ignored) won't stay long, i think...


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  • palpha3clearancepalpha3clearance Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    it would be great, but would be better if they did not charge you for the ship twice.
  • darkenzedddarkenzedd Member Posts: 881
    edited August 2012
    If the fleet Gal-R gets this, then the normal cstore ship should get it too.
    The Gal-R has been gimped for ages, such a shame for one of the most iconic ships in the Trek universe!
  • saiwotsaiwot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The Galaxy, Defiant, and Intrepid are kind of the hero ship classes of Star Trek in a way. They were all featured as the class of the main ship in three TV shows. It would be nice if the fleet versions of these ships were made a little more flexible. About the only time a third ENS slot of the same type can be really useful for me is on the T5 Intrepid. ENS tac and eng abilities can quickly become redundant.

    I think a LCDR universal on the Fleet Galaxy and ENS Universal on the Fleet Defiant and Fleet Intrepid would have been great.
  • aveldraaveldra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    All ensign slots should be universal. c:
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