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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I was waiting for this ship since day one of the game.
    But after seeing the states, I am going to buy it! Is still worst than the Excelsior!

    Well done Cryptic, I know for a fact that in our small fleet you loss at least 10 sells of this ship! Improve it and maybe you will gain them.
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  • dashuk2381dashuk2381 Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I've actually enjoyed the Regent so far, though I did not like the original look so it's now a version of the Noble/Regent/Sovy in terms of parts. I pulled the Metreon Console, just didn't find it useful at all, especially when to me it just doesn't seem as good as EWP or the Ferengi event theta console. I stuck another armor in place of it in Engineering slot and it tanks just as well as my Excelsior now. With the right BOFF powers this ship can be a beast.

    One thing I was thinking about though, they ought to rethink the torpedo launcher thing. While it's a great launcher, if they wanted to stick with the re-fit idea they should have made it more like the Sovy in Nemesis, with a 360 degree phaser array or two. Maybe two on the saucer, just like in Nemesis when Picard orders the phasers fired all around the ship from the saucer, that was pretty damn cool and to me would make the ship worth $25.
  • carmenaracarmenara Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    That is an interesting suggestion Dash.

    How would you design the functionality of the 'auxiliary phaser array'? The game pretty much already has this working very well - FAW.
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  • dashuk2381dashuk2381 Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Just thinking you get one phaser array, sort of like the one torpedo launcher. Maybe you can only equip it fore and it works like a turret for firing range. Or maybe it could be a console like the defense turret you got at pre-order way back when. Not every one uses FAW so could be an interesting thing. I just thought of the idea while watching the battle scenes in Nemesis the other night and when Picard says to start firing the phasers randomly and shoot torps when they get hits and the saucer starts firing fore and aft, just sort of had the random thought.
  • corsair114corsair114 Member Posts: 276
    edited August 2012
    Actually, a one-off 360 phaser array would be a godsend for Sci ships, letting them run 3 single cannons/2 turrets/array for Target SubSys.
  • carmenaracarmenara Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The problem is how to make it different enough from the Point Defence console to make it a worthy separate addon. That and we already have two PDS consoles, one gun and one torpedo.
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  • corsair114corsair114 Member Posts: 276
    edited August 2012
    carmenara wrote: »
    The problem is how to make it different enough from the Point Defence console to make it a worthy separate addon. That and we already have two PDS consoles, one gun and one torpedo.

    It'd probably have to be a weapon. Think of it like:

    Phaser Beam Array [Acc] [CritH] [360]

    where the [360] gives it the firing arc of a Turret. Just, y'know, it's a beam and you can only have one on your ship.
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Just saying the beams in Star Trek Nemesis (or star trek in general) works completely different than in STO. All beams are kinda 360 in star trek, because you have ventral and dorsal phaser STRIPS, that cover very huge angles.
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  • ascaladarascaladar Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I am still tweaking the engineer powers but so far I am happy and the regent offers something different then the Excelsior.

    The Lt. Commander tactical slot allows Fire at Will 3 which I consider my Regents main ability, I also decided to forget broadsides, put in a good RCS console and dual beam phasers. I have also no need for the wide arc launcher instead choose a Borg quantum launcher with a smaller firing arc but more DPS.

    Fire at Will 3 followed by a Torpedo Spread 2 with Quantums, buffed by a tactical captains skills, tactical team does really hurt.

    If you prefer single target damage then it might be possible to use Beam Overload 3 with high accuracy weapons, possibly together with a tractor beam and Torpedo High Yield.
  • cptrichardson12cptrichardson12 Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I've got to say that the posted stats lie, as I can easily squeeze Excelsior+ turning out of her. My biggest problem is usually getting pounded too hard because I'm popping off TS/FAW combos (replaced the Universal with Tac). She turns excellently, she has a resilient enough shield to take the hits, and she becomes a monster when you become willing to take risks. She's the only cruiser I'm willing to take into an STF.

    Ens Tac: Tac Team I
    Lt Universal: FaW I/TS II
    Lt. Engineering: Eng Team I/EptW II
    Lt Cmdr Tac: TS I/FAW II/APO I
    Cmdr Eng: EptS I/RSP I/Aux to Inertial Dampeners II/EWP II


    Dangerous, dangerous ship. Not the toughest, but easily overpowering the Oddy in damage potential.
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Using Attack Pattern Delta I greatly improves your surviability and still allows you to keep lt.cmd slot for something else.
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  • cptrichardson12cptrichardson12 Member Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    Using Attack Pattern Delta I greatly improves your surviability and still allows you to keep lt.cmd slot for something else.


    Yeah, but you loose a good chunk of your DPS. The build sets you up to at least remotely match Escorts.
  • areikou#8990 areikou Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I'm currently running the following boff configuration and it has turned out splendidly so far.

    LTC Tactical: Tactical Team 1, Beam Overload 2, High Yield 3
    Ensign Tactical: Tactical Team 1
    CMD Eng: EPTW1, EPTS2, EPTS3, Aux2Sif3
    LT Eng: Eng Team 1, RSP1
    LT Tactical (Universal): Beam Overload 1, Attack Pattern Beta 1

    This has given me a lot of single shot kill power against small targets and a lot of sustained and hard hitting power against large targets and structures. I'm currently thinking of running BO3 instead of HY3 though as I have noticed (at least on my Tac toon) that I can get some surprisingly high crits. I hit a Defiant for 42k last night with BO2 (One shot from a non-dreadnought??) and think BO3 would be even stronger every 30 seconds.

    This build also utilizes the highest EPTS providing powerful shield resistances (Along with Maco MK XII shields) and using Tactical teams, brace for impact, and RSP for those oh **** moments, I can absorb a tremendous amount of punishment while dishing out a lot of sustained and single powerful shots every 15 seconds.
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  • vengefuldjinnvengefuldjinn Member Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Can the metreon gas console be put on the Mirror Star Cruiser?
    Unfortunately not, (wish someone would reconsider this personally) :(

    But it can be put on the regular star cruiser and It also lists compatibility with a "Fleet assault cruiser" (upcoming?).
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  • corsair114corsair114 Member Posts: 276
    edited August 2012
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    Just saying the beams in Star Trek Nemesis (or star trek in general) works completely different than in STO. All beams are kinda 360 in star trek, because you have ventral and dorsal phaser STRIPS, that cover very huge angles.

    Yeah, that's true. It'd have been nice if things in STO worked that way, alas, they do not.
  • unangbangkayunangbangkay Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    crusty8mac wrote: »
    Three Tac Teams? One will always be down and wasted. Add an Eng Team to that, and two of your teams will always be down. Likewise more than two EP2x skills.

    The 3 tac teams was a typo.

    Based on my experience so far at least 1 EPTW is essential because of beam array drain. As an Engineer I have a surplus of heals, so having an EPTS on cooldown isn't too much of a problem.
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