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borticuscryptic appreciation day. PVP ideas for EPIC improvement!

xtremenoob1xtremenoob1 Member Posts: 489 Arc User
edited August 2012 in PvP Gameplay
Thanks for addressing the bugs from our tiny community. ;\

Getting the UI fixed on the KDF has made frapping much better. Thanks!


Clearly AFK is a issue! I almost have enough video frapped to make a montage of just that one idiot sitting there. Funny thing is, and it's perfect, he actually FIRED back after we singled him out. He didn't do anything really, he just tried to run. But funny no less.
aytanhi wrote: »

AFKer that flies into a fight and AFKs. (Shows that he's not actually AFK, just trying to get himself killed)
And how to deal with them at 4:22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p613Q2w2ItA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_z1tIe04X0

THREAD = http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=328091



REPOST: I don't even care about the fleet marks, outside, maybe a couple per match. It's the lack of repeat in kerrat that is pushing these idiots here. I guess killing that repeat was to counter the EC farming from gold farmer, but all it's done is alienate the minority in this game that plays to actually play each other. Pew pew!!!! Damnit. Don't make us lose hope, kthx.
xtremenoob1 wrote: »
Change kerrat back from a daily, that will get rid of a lot of unwanted afkers in the queues.

Add marks as a reward for PVP (arenas and C&H,) but (maybe) give double rewards to the victor. I've heard people complain they didn't get marks in the starbase missions, but they didn't do anything, so one must ask... Was/is that a bug.

Even a starbase PVP map for the queues may work??? Just remove all the unauditable dribble from the background.


While not an ideal solution, perhaps it's a good middle ground since PVP isn't the easiest of game play. However, by providing a reward win or lose, while giving double marks for victory, that could increase the attention new players/old players, that are new to PVP, take in the game. End result, more skilled players, more active queues? More importantly, it brings pvpers back to the queues instead of grinding fleet marks in PVE missions. We all hate killing helpless NPCs. I'm sure a lot of the smaller fleets would fair a lot better (I know mine would,) if PVP provided marks. When I get on I queue up (with the exception of grinding a character on the mirror event hour,) I don't waste hours doing the fleet mark missions. That's not fun.

Let's be honest, one PVP escort is better than an entire group of a NPCs in the starbase missions.

Just an idea.
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I'd have to agree that Borticus, despite quite a few issues that can some times be created by his work, does also do a good job at trying to squash not only those issues, but other issues as well, incuding some of the strange ones that are plagueing us reciently.

    Good Job J-Man and good luck with all the future issues!
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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Multiple spawn points would be nice.

    A couple of different scenerios, map doesn't matter-
    KOTH- King of the hill, every PvP'r from different games knows this one, basically kill everyone else (a TEAM option would be awesome) winner gets X dilith, X marks, or level appropriate loot.
    Team Defend- one or more objects placed around map, 1 team attacks, the other defends. SIMPLE- starbase defense PvE but without AI. Increased difficulty could be centered around freighters instead of base object- freighers die: defenders lose. Perhaps a little of both.

    C'mon, this is standard PvP stuff found in numerous other games, ideas arent really needed here, implementation IS !
    Perhaps the devs should allow foundry missions to award currency (dilith/FM's) after 'official' review, my old Starfleet command buddies used to write entire campaigns every couple months, and 100's of peeps would battle online for weeks to win the campaign. I'm sure some of those 'user created' missions would appeal to ST:O players.
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  • mrkollinsmrkollins Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Yeah, Borticus is doing a great job fixing Space PvP


    My idea of improvement is this amazing post, perfectly redacted and explained.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=269665
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  • thishorizonthishorizon Member Posts: 1,158
    edited July 2012
    no.

    sorry no appreciation.

    actually, not even sorry.

    fix the weapons. then i may give some appreciation for them doing something that shouldnt even be an issue.

    really.?

    starting a appreciation thread while the game is so borked?
  • xtremenoob1xtremenoob1 Member Posts: 489 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I'm looking on the bright side, we are getting some notice so let's not bite the hand that feeds us. J/S maybe I'm overshooting. I just want to see more pew pew from good player and less from dickhead douchebags that are just farming.
    thishorizon wrote: »
    no.

    sorry no appreciation.

    actually, not even sorry.

    fix the weapons. then i may give some appreciation for them doing something that shouldnt even be an issue.

    really.?

    starting a appreciation thread while the game is so borked?
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  • aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    xtremenoob1 wrote: »
    I'm looking on the bright side, we are getting some notice so let's not bite the hand that feeds us. J/S maybe I'm overshooting. I just want to see more pew pew from good player and less from dickhead douchebags that are just farming.

    With the current PVP numbers, i'd settle for as much of both as possible, frankly.

    But yes, let us see results and then praise will be delivered.
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  • matteo716maikaimatteo716maikai Member Posts: 823
    edited August 2012
    after reading the latest changes on tribble.

    i cant support the devs.


    that is all.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    yall had me till i saw the trans and chrono mine changes. play the game competitively where this stuff maters, then try to balance it. with these 2 changes, this is were you needed to come here and ask what do you think about this? we would have told you to do the categorically opposite thing. :rolleyes:

    i do really appreciate borticus and jheinig stopping by this forum and consulting with the people that know this stuff best, making our experience and knowledge part of the solution. there are some that are gonna always hate on you guys and be extreamly harsh and disappointed, but i know you guys are trying and its always gonna be a work in progress, keep up the good work. :)
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  • aytanhiaytanhi Member Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Nothing has happened yet. A lot of devs have come on the PVP forums saying that they will do something about it, and time and time again nothing happened.

    No appreciation until something happens in the game, check some of my older threads. I made one specifically thanking the devs for directing their attention at PVP, but 6 months later nothing had changed.
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  • shimmerlessshimmerless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    matteo716maikai wrote: »
    after reading the latest changes on tribble.

    i cant support the devs.


    that is all.

    What happened?
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  • fakehilbertfakehilbert Member Posts: 252 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Could we get the FAW [Acc] issue fixed before we start an appreciation day?
  • matteo716maikaimatteo716maikai Member Posts: 823
    edited August 2012
    shimmerless wrote: »
    What happened?

    One step forward with all these fixes. 2 steps back with giving mines needlessly powerful abilities that will have a major impact in pvp.
  • naz4naz4 Member Posts: 1,373 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Whats the point. Borticus will be leaving soon once he discovers he 's actually poweless to make any meaningful changes. Mines being case in point. No one requested any changes on it but we'll get it anyway. Yet, the requests we do make there's a million excuses for not doing it i.e punishing afkers for TRIBBLE up pvp matches and loggers avoiding death. For now forget the appreciation.
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    fakehilbert wrote: »
    Could we get the FAW [Acc] issue fixed before we start an appreciation day?

    seriously. for BO as well. they have been dodging and ignoring it every single time i bring it up in an active dev thread. not once was it at least acknowledged. if its working as intended because you don't think those abilities should be especially accurate, just tell us!
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  • aetam1aetam1 Member Posts: 228 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I have been playing on and off since release. I always liked pvp and I understand the frustration of many players. Nevertheless you can't blame borticus for all of cryptics mistakes. He is one person and if he truly wants to help he does indeed deserve our appreciation. You can not blame one person for changes he probably did not want or was powerless to stop. You can not blame him for code he probably did not write and as one person he has limited time and resources to correct mistakes.

    So I would say be nice to those who help us and direct your hate at those who truly TRIBBLE up the game.
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  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    aytanhi wrote: »
    No appreciation until something happens in the game

    so much this ^^^^
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  • husanakxhusanakx Member Posts: 1,609 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    dontdrunkimshoot wrote: »
    seriously. for BO as well. they have been dodging and ignoring it every single time i bring it up in an active dev thread. not once was it at least acknowledged. if its working as intended because you don't think those abilities should be especially accurate, just tell us!

    They just need to do for BO what they do for Target Sub... if you miss the buff stays loaded.
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    matteo716maikai wrote: »
    One step forward with all these fixes. 2 steps back with giving mines needlessly powerful abilities that will have a major impact in pvp.

    +1

    While I appreciate someone trying to DO something about PvP, it would be nice if these guys worked together AND played the game. The mine update is crazy OP for PvP IMHO.
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  • xenovitaxenovita Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    this is actually a serious thread?

    i mean, are we really appreciating the guy who destroyed Sci Powers?

    please tell me I am being trolled...
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  • mavairomavairo Member Posts: 579
    edited August 2012
    xenovita wrote: »
    this is actually a serious thread?

    i mean, are we really appreciating the guy who destroyed Sci Powers?

    please tell me I am being trolled...

    I'm in shock myself.
  • starcommando101starcommando101 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Most games don't care for player feedback, they post it out and have everyone deal with it.

    "Oh you don't like the way that weapon works? Well to bad so sad."

    Atleast this game has Devs that show that they want to do something about it. I show appreciation 100%.

    Mines get a buff, some people think that is a horrible idea, but you have to realize something, they where worthless before, no one used them, now they are on par with every other weapon. they have a use. Most people shrugged em of and kept going, now you see one and it's like HOLY!!!

    *Note you can still activate FAW or CRF to get rid of em. Not hard.

    Good job Bort, continue the good work man I support you 100%
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  • mavairomavairo Member Posts: 579
    edited August 2012
    starcommando101 wrote: »
    Most games don't care for player feedback, they post it out and have everyone deal with it.

    "Oh you don't like the way that weapon works? Well to bad so sad."

    Atleast this game has Devs that show that they want to do something about it. I show appreciation 100%.

    Mines get a buff, some people think that is a horrible idea, but you have to realize something, they where worthless before, no one used them, now they are on par with every other weapon. they have a use. Most people shrugged em of and kept going, now you see one and it's like HOLY!!!

    *Note you can still activate FAW or CRF to get rid of em. Not hard.

    Good job Bort, continue the good work man I support you 100%

    Yeah and most games Blow. Big Boy titles, don't push things past public testing (if they have the option for public testing) without proper feedback being taken into account.

    Mines are actually incredibly common in pvp, particularly chroniton due to the devastatingly powerful proc chroniton mines have. Now they made the proc even better. Something it didn't need in the first place.

    Yes.. FAW, can kill mines, that being said is it going to kill the mines, and various pets on the field? No. not only this, but you can out spam their loss rate on a full team quite easily, even against heavy AOE teams. Also, the skill you are thinking of is CSV not CRF. And CSV only has a 30 degree cone it can operate in. Generally that cone is infront of your ship. Not exactly productive for clearing spam.

    The mine buff is a stupid TRIBBLE idea that I'm amazed they pushed to live. Thank god good games are coming down the pipe, here soon. I'm just about ready for another 4+ month hiatus from STO. With any luck, my absence will become permanent this time.
  • xenovitaxenovita Member Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    and let me add, that I dont see any good results of our feedback.

    PvP is almost dead thanks to this guys, specially Borticus...

    Keeping on the brown-nosing won't help this game to live longer, but will destroy it faster...
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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Is this post a joke? Yea... I am sure is a joke...
    Nice trolling OP, you got me there for a second =)
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  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=5086841#post5086841

    Looks to me it's not as bad as you think ;)
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