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fascistsoldier
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Riddle me this! Why on earth can one be flagged for "inappropriate language" and at the same time provide a profanity filter to players? Does not having a profanity filter imply that its okay because people who are offended by it can simply censor it from their own chat window? 
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Then why is the chat filter optional?
Need an example? Yes, you need an example! *pats head*
If I went off on a tirade insulting somebody's mother or father, but did not curse once during it.
Inappropriate? Yes, Curse words? No.
That still doesn't explain why the profanity filter is optional. You are just saying that there are other forms of inappropriate language that one can be flagged for. I don't see how that would stop the incentive from making the profanity filter mandatory in order to limit the amount of inappropriate language used.
It would as if I owned a bar and put a sign in front of the door that says no guns allowed. Simply because I wish to curtail the possibility of violence from occurring. Now just because people can then resort to committing violence with their fists shouldn't stop me from putting the sign in front of my door to prevent guns from coming into the establishment.
Also based upon your reasoning, your "pats head" comment could be considered condescending. Is that on grounds of reporting for inappropriate language?
its against the rules to swear at all. anytime you swear you take a risk, especially in public chat.
the filter option allows people who really dont care about swear words to see them, or perhaps are having a private conversation with their friends and would rather read the word. the option to turn it off is there, but the starting position is still that its against the rules.
context is also important, especially if someone is swearing at you. you may wish to disable it to see what you are being called, especially if someone has just made an obvious typo, before you hit report.
Then why allow the possibility of risk at all? Doesn't that just end up creating more work for the GMs? Not to mention it would lessen confusion about what is and isn't allowed and prevent the possibility of accidents?
Additionally if it is censored from people then why would they then turn it off just to see if someone said something rude about them? Isn't that just narcissistic curiosity?
If it is such a high and mighty rule then why allow the possibility of breaking the rule altogether?
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if im in zone and someone starts swearing at me and i have the filter on all i see is a bunch of gibberish.
before i decide what to do i would want to read it to know what they are saying. perhaps its a typo and they were not swearing at me at all. perhaps its one of these stupid words that got hit by the filter but no one would ever consider it a true swear word. perhaps its the most vulgar and crude swear word known to man. its important to know what is being said if i plan to report someone. the option is important otherwise further confusion could come from people reporting things that are just typos or innocuous words caught in a overly strict filter.
someone different may not bother to check and report it anyway and thus create more work for a gm, but the option has to be there.
could they create a way to stop any swear word from being entered at all, so the text is not written while the swear word is there and totally eliminate any possibility of swearing? maybe.
Then if it is completely useless then why bother to have it at all?
The filter is to stop people from seeing foul language and being offended by it. Even if it isn't directed towards themselves personally. So isn't turning off the filter to find out what was really said simply proactively looking for an excuse to find something to be offended about?
Because kids under the age of 16 play this game and their parents may not want them exposed to profanity.
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if someone is sworn at, then they are not actively looking to get insulted. they have already been insulted. they may just wish to know what the swear word is or they may not. up to them. personally i would want to know. im not looking to find an excuse to be insulted. im looking to see the full context to see if it is an insult.
by your logic if you make a typo when having a conversation with me, or get caught out by some odd wording in the filter shall i just assume you were swearing at me and i report you? that will really waste a gm's time. type 's' as the last letter of a word and then type 'hit' and the filter will pick it up as a swear word where none was implied.
and no, you can still be offended if you see a bunch of xxxx that look like an insult. it does not matter what the word is. if its aimed as an insult then its still an insult. the exact wording does not make a huge amount of difference but some people may take the time to check that it really is a swear word before they hit report.
look end of the day, dont swear and you have no problems. its really that simple.
The language filter exists as a tool to help parents protect their children. Adults are not children and therefor don't need a language filter. Hence, optional language filter.
I don't know how much simpler I can make this for you.
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Now you know why I've been stating that we have a moderator here who can't figure out how to send a Pm correctly.
I'd appeal it but it's not worth the trouble. They're already shown me multiple times that they pay little attention to what the players complain about. Just this morning Branflakes showed me that he doesn;t have a clue as to what;s happening around here.
It would be nice though if the moderators would follow up and deal with issues of bigotry and other such lovely topics. Amazes me what they let slide.
You do realize of course that this thread will disappear shortly. They don;t allow for discussion of moderation.
If a tree falls in the forest and there is nobody around, does it make a sound? Same could be said about the profanity filter if you make it mandatory. "What you don't know, can't hurt you". Therefore problem solved.
And if I have a typo with the option of turning off the profanity filter, than I wouldn't know what to assume because I couldn't see what was written.
And I'm telling you that that language filter doesn't do any good if people can get around it. Therefore it is even pointless to have it in the first place if it is ineffective.
LTS, here since...when did this game launch again?
Thus some people leave them off rather than have legitimate words that would be swearing in other contexts left out.
That doesn't make profanity legitimate.
Shouldn't happen unless those in those channels are complaining about you. Far as I know there is no 'auto-detect.'
Their filter is out of whack as well. I politely point out my experiences with trying to send in an ingame ticket and being told that Commandant of Starfleet Academy was a swear word.
Take the original Phantasy Star Online for Dreamcast, there were many, many words that were filtered that were part of equipment or monster names. They had such pointless words filtered that most people couldn't even complain about it with a straight face.....imagine asking someone "So, what are you doing this Saturday?" and having it come out as "So, what are you doing this Sa%#&@ay?" Yeah, it was that bad. Optional is good.
If you had read my whole post, you would know I said that. That is a classic example of a false positive.
The only reason I could see for filtering that is if they were worried about someone claiming to be the commandant of the academy....