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. . . missing from C-Store.
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Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Brandon,
Did we once again get rug pulled out from under us with no warning? If so have we not learned from past transgressions? Anyone? Please tell me that common sense and organization are words that do not only exist in dictionaries and not in Pwe/ Cryptic's reality?
Thanks for letting us all know (well in advance as usual). Its good that you keep the comunity who pays the bills so well informed.
I just wish my other service providers where so good at communication. Keep up the good work.
Oh yes, I am being sarcastic by the way. No offence Brandon (as this is in no way your fault) but people are getting pretty sick of these changes without even being told they are going to happen.
Assuming Brandon is correct that it's still available if you purchased it, what is really lost here that wasn't learned from past transgressions?
Join Date: Sept 2008
"Holographic tissue paper for the holographic runny nose. Don't give them to patients." - The Doctor
I still have access to all of the ship skins that I've purchased over the years.
Next...
The fact no one who doesnt currently have the skins, or where saving up to buy a certain one, no longer have the option...
And removing them without any forwarning.
Sometimes you go to a store and items are just not available for purchase anymore. Again, if you have purchased them before, you have not lost your costumes and can access them in the ship tailor on the appropriate ship. I'll still pass along your feedback to the Dev Team
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Acutally no... most stores will tell you "buy now... available only until end of the month"
or
"This item will no longer be stocked on 'x' date.
Plus the fact you cant even compare a digital store to a store that can no longer supply a good because its out of stock. Sorry Brandon, this is a poor excuse.
I also have the option to approach the store manager and ask them WHY x item is no longer being stocked. Could you tell us the reasoning behind this Brandon, or will we be left in the dark again in regard to Cryptics obscure reasoning for such changes?
So, if your local movie theater decided to not carry Almond Snickers bars any more in their snack bar, would you still feel some sort of entitlement to being consulted or notified of the changes so that you could weigh in on the business decision to give your 2 cents worth of input?
So, if your local ballpark vendor decided to change their supplier of hotdogs and stopped offering pretzels via the walk around sellers would you also feel sick of the changes and entitled to being made aware of the business decision so you could give your 2 cents worth of input?
Here's a nickel, keep the change.
Pryck,
It is not that I feel entitled to anything. Its simply a matter of courtesy. Ok if my local store can no longer supply milk because of shortages, thats fine and understandable.
This is a digital product and it cant go 'out of stock' it would have been a simple thing to let us know in advance.
Personaly I was waiting for my stipend to roll over so I could buy a certain skin, If I had known in advance this would no longer be an option, at least I would have had the option to spend real money to buy it in advance.
All of costumes are now exclusive to Fleet Ship system -- for example, if your character purchases the "Fleet Reconnaissance Science Vessel", that character gains access to the Comet costume on all variants. Again, previously purchased ship costumes were account-wide unlocks and if you purchased one, you can use it on the appropriate ship in the ship tailor.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
If Brandon had said "sorry we are no longer allowing you to use your purchased ship skins" this would be an issue. But I find it hard to believe that ship skins, available since before C-store ships, are something people having been saving for months to buy.
Items get removed from stores all the time without warning. Most of the time people never notice because no one cares. Only when hot items are going to disappear do you see "Last Chance" sales.
Join Date: Sept 2008
"Holographic tissue paper for the holographic runny nose. Don't give them to patients." - The Doctor
Can you please explain why you put a smiley face after that statement? Do you actually think that makes people feel better about what your saying or are you just patronizing us?
Bit confused by your post... are you calling me a liar or something?
There is only so much one can purchase at any given moment (unless you are rich) so yes I do tend to save up my stipend for certain skins, and given that its not a huge ammount, sometimes it does take a while to save up.
Like I said, I would have been happy to pay real money (had I been given the option) but why spend real money when I can save up my stipend?
So yes people do, do that. I'm not sure what is so hard to beleive about this...
Emoticons are commonly used after text to ensure what would be the vocal inflection comes across correctly
I actually get teased because I use smileys a lot in emails, but I had a Professor who used to be a CEO for a big company that taught us that it should be used often lol
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Thank you for stating the obvious. What I was actually getting at though, is when you tell someone something they obviously dont want to hear and put a little fake smiley face after it it comes across as patronizing. The same is true in RL. If you call someone in to tell them they are being laid off, having a big cheesy grin on your face isnt going to make them feel any better about it; if fact it will have the opposite effect.
I dont think it was the best place smiley, but I know Brandon is just a platform between us as the developers so i'm not gonna rail on him. Hell I'de been smiling nervously if I was interacting with this community too lol.
why?
No.
You are getting upset over a ship skin that is now available for free which doesn't make sense. It's great that your saving money/stipend/whatever, but now you get to spend that on something else. Unlike the ones who purchased them already. Why are you unhappy with that?
Join Date: Sept 2008
"Holographic tissue paper for the holographic runny nose. Don't give them to patients." - The Doctor
I thought it was obscure too.. given that I was willing to pay real money (given the option) to buy the remaining skins I wanted if I had been told in advance.
I'm not sure why they have chosen to tie it in to the fleet system, not eveyone is interested in the fleet system, or is even in a fleet.
But, honestly, given that MANY players use Dilithium to get Zen (formerly C-Points); and it can take quite a while - it would be nice if the community team (wjho I'm sure is made aware of upcoming C-Store changes) - could let tnhbe assembled playwerbase KNOW when items will be removed so they can plan accordingly (hell, some might even decide to buy Zen directlty - which can only help Cryptic's bottom line.)
I also find in interesting for the most part, the Community Team never seems to admit to errors in judgement, unless the error is decried across the internet for days (such as the unnannounced STO Forum update and the fact tnhat after the update, one could no longer post to the Forums.)
The Zen Store isn't a brick and mortar place; it's a store Cryptic FULLY controls, and often DaStahl comes inn here to tell teh playerbase that EVERYTHING made for teh VC-Store has to make more money than it tookm (in Dev time, or outsourcing costs) to create. Therefore, removal of ANY item seems counter intuative since the more stuff you guys have in the C-Store, the more likely someone will use real cash for Zen to acquire the C-Store item.
Instead of going on teh defensive and trying to always deflect criticism on what are seen as poor decisions by the playerbase; it would be nice if the Community Team would just own up to sometimes being human and admit a TRIBBLE up, nstead of trying to always declare they're 100% on top of everything (when a preponderance of evidence points to the contrary); admit you screwed up OR were just followuing company policy - and you'll pass along the feedback (which is what you always say.
IMO - it would help the image of the Community Team to appear as real humman beings rather then the worst used car salesman who's allways just trying to push whatever he can onto a customer because he thinks teh customer is dumb and willing to swallow any/all of his sales pitch.
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
Very clever of you to say thats Kobay, considering we have only just found out its now part of the fleet system. The post I made was before Brandon made that statement so your own statement is moot.
Yes it now appears it is 'free' so I have less to complain about, disregarding wether I wish to participate in the fleet system that is.
That fleet ship does require Fleet Ship Modules, but the costume unlock for its other variants is included as a bonus.
P.S. Ze smiley is gone.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
Maybe im mad but wouldnt they of made more money by having both the c-store and fleet version?
I find that changing up the words, and adding asides that clarifies or preemptively cuts off wrong interpretations of what you're saying, works much better.
Then I want a Advanced Escort Fleet Variant because I thought the Hephateus was the best skin for the AE/MVAE
Who is to blame here? Cryptic? Perfect World? Who is the one executing these incredibly bone-headed decisions? Did the forum transition fiasco not teach you people ANYTHING? When you pull nonsense like this without advanced notification, you're only ticking off your players and harming your reputation as a company.
No doubt you do have the right to make changes to STO without notice to the players. Fine. You keep doing that. Just know that when you do, you're only shooting yourselves in the foot with a damn shotgun. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
And the rest of the D'kora consoles and the Ferengi outfits that I was saving up Lobi for are no longer carried in the Lobi store. No big deal...next...