I always liked lock boxes in theory but i had issues with the drop rate and some of the items inside.
this tholian one however has been great. i feel like i either want every item or i can sell it for a decent sum of EC. Even the boxes themselves have a lower drop rate which not only stops you being spammed to death by them, but they are actually valuable to have and sell on the exchange.
the increase in the lobi, coupled with the more sensible pricing structure, plus a fixed price ship in the store have made this an enjoyable experience for me. if you're going for the ship its still a lottery and it can still get very expensive, so that element of luck is still there but for me this is how a lock box should have been from the start.
i think its even better than the doff pack promo as its half as expensive and you still get doffs a large chunk of the time but there are some other good items thrown in to stop it from being doffs only.
my only criticism is the fleet credit boost (which is helpful) are a little high in their drop rate. it almost feels like there needs to be one more item in there just to reduce the fleet mark drop rate and it seems there is no category to list the fleet credit bonus on the exchange either so we cant sell them (due to the general search being broken).
Dstahl an Undine infiltrator........I want a blood sample......cause of late we have been seeing pay to wins in feature and content updates? No sir we have been assured over and over again this would not be so.
In game currencies that were supposed to go away to use a single currency have failed and been replaced with pay to win currencies.......I am disappointed get the torches and pitch forks time to see if StarFleet Command is under Ferengi mind control,undine invasion, mirror universe counterpart or
maybe a parasitical race that is trying to over tnrough the alpha quadrant?????
In a 'Vault' mission I was awarded 3 boxes all of which contained the mini gamma quadrant duty officer pack, you would have thought that the programme would not allow this to happen. To keep players interested you need variety. If this happens it does not encourage one to open any more as the cost v benefit is too uncertain. This box system is a farce and needs to be scrapped in my opinion.
Dstahl an Undine infiltrator........I want a blood sample......cause of late we have been seeing pay to wins in feature and content updates? No sir we have been assured over and over again this would not be so.
In game currencies that were supposed to go away to use a single currency have failed and been replaced with pay to win currencies.......I am disappointed get the torches and pitch forks time to see if StarFleet Command is under Ferengi mind control,undine invasion, mirror universe counterpart or
maybe a parasitical race that is trying to over tnrough the alpha quadrant?????
Assured this wouldn't happen?
Business's change their minds all the time, for whatever reason. It's the same with Cryptic. It's better not to hold business's to promises that may not stay constant.
And orders are orders. Dshtal probably meant what he said, but when PWE took over, orders overrided that.
So Cryptic aren't really at fault on that issue. PWE is.
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Just mare lock boxes if I spend real money on something I want to be sure I get wat I want not get some crappy prize instead and take 20 times to get wat you want
yeah but thats still around 10 boxes that you have to buy at a minimum and each boc is worth around 10 usd, 10 usd of a digital sword is not exactly a bargain
fyi i agree with you, just though that you might want to know that there are rumors going around saying that the odds of winning a grand prize is around .01 percent whereas winning duty officers is no less than 40 percent, i cant confirm this but it is a common rumor
I'm taking it that there's no rarity to these lock boxes like the other ones?
Like there's no GOLD Tholian Lock Box to be holding out for?
I got my first one and it's just white common. So, I'd like to know if I should wait for a better and discard this one, or fire away with master keys. :-P
My point is, people are targeting Cryptic for any and all issues, with a high level of misblaming.
The issue here is many are knee-jerk blaming Cryptic for a lot of their issues... with little-to-no consideration/thought that PWE is behind some of them.
I'm simply trying to help shift some of that blame onto PWE, because they are responible for some of the issues. And that way, Cryptic doesn't get as much needless/inaccurate blaming.
It's not much help, but it's better than nothing.
I never mentioned the word Crytic in my post. It was directed at PWE who are in control. Cryptic is pretty much out of the picture. Next time read the post carefully.
Instead of Pakled World directing their efforts into getting this game back to the standard it was before they bought it, they are more concerned with money grubbing lottery of nothingness lockbox's and distraction techniques to take our eyes off the glaringly obvious problems the game has that are STILL NOT BEING ADDRESSED. Not to mention the amount of negative feedback posted on lockboxes since their first inception that was again ignored.
This was the message in my initial post, and is a shame I had to put it into an extended format so you could understand it.
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I never mentioned the word Crytic in my post. It was directed at PWE who are in control. Cryptic is pretty much out of the picture. Next time read the post carefully.
Instead of Pakled World directing their efforts into getting this game back to the standard it was before they bought it, they are more concerned with money grubbing lottery of nothingness lockbox's and distraction techniques to take our eyes off the glaringly obvious problems the game has that are STILL NOT BEING ADDRESSED. Not to mention the amount of negative feedback posted on lockboxes since their first inception that was again ignored.
This was the message in my initial post, and is a shame I had to put it into an extended format so you could understand it.
True you never mentioned Cryptic... but you never specificially said PWE either. And in most cases, Cryptic is automatically blamed, so I guessed you were too. I admit I was wrong.
But yeah, PWE is behind a lot of the feedback-ignored stuff. Cryptic did listen, did take into account, etc... but was ordered to ignore it, and say nothing to confirm or deny PWE ordered them to do so. At least I'm assuming that happened, and is happening.
Like the +1 T2 Nova. If Cryptic had been in control, it wouldn't have had the +1 stats in the first place... but they weren't in control.
It's just sad.
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Have to say this is the best lockbox ever after opening 5 of them here is the result of the lottery
Lock box 1. Mini Doff Pack
Lock Box 2. Tetryon Cannon
Lock Box 3. MU Star Cruiser (Pity it's doesnt have ISS)
Lock Box 4. Gamma Quadrent mini doff pack
Lock Box 5 MU Star Cruiser
It Seems the Star cruiser is the most common drop maybe with my last few keys I will get the tholian ship or enough lobi to get the fighter from the lobi store
NO TO ARC
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Yet again another lockbox that has nothing I'm even remotely interested in getting.
Why keep putting all these ugly ships in lockboxes that are from races only a minority of Star Trek fans like. Why not something cool like a Breen lockbox so we can get Breen suits and Breen Starships
Yet again another lockbox that has nothing I'm even remotely interested in getting.
Why keep putting all these ugly ships in lockboxes that are from races only a minority of Star Trek fans like. Why not something cool like a Breen lockbox so we can get Breen suits and Breen Starships
Fail.
I must disagree. I opened 30 lockboxes and got no ship at all. Just some mini-doff-packs, fleet credit bonus and ship weapon packs ... that's all ... and extremely frustrating.
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I must disagree. I opened 30 lockboxes and got no ship at all. Just some mini-doff-packs, fleet credit bonus and ship weapon packs ... that's all ... and extremely frustrating.
Seems like you don't like the new lockboxes either, so you agree with me that they suck, just for different reasons. I don't like the new ships, and you couldn't get the ships and got a bunch of garbage you don't want instead.
Seems like you don't like the new lockboxes either, so you agree with me that they suck, just for different reasons. I don't like the new ships, and you couldn't get the ships and got a bunch of garbage you don't want instead.
Ich completely agree with you, i just quote the wrong post. I tried my luck on the boxes, but i have to agree to most of the ppl here. These boxes and the gamble suck.
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I did a brief investigation of the Lobi store, to see if the money and time I would invest would pay off.
Sadly, my investigation did not go every well!
The first item I purchase is the weapon.
And the first time I did so, it wasn't a great deal of lobi, I had it within 4-5 boxes.
But this time, the price is not acceptable!
15 for the Ferengi Whip, 50 for the Tholian Sword!
That's over 3 times as much!
I was also considering getting the Tholian Silk Scarf, but the price is 100.
That was when I snapped the Lobi vendor's spine in half, then left the mess for someone else to clean up.
If you're so interested in making money, why not sell us the Lobi crystals direct?
This random loot stuff got old fast long before the lockboxes came out and introducing it as paid content isn't going to make me any more interested in STO.
I'm kinda miffed that they reset the Lobi Store. I knew that they were no longer going to drop the Ferengi Lock Boxes, but I don't remember reading anywhere that they were going to clear out the Lobi store. I thought they were just going to add items to it. Instead they took all the Ferengi stuff out, and I really wanted to purchase that whip. I had enough, but just didn't get around to purchase it. Now no whip for me.
I opened twenty boxes so far ... 8 5K Fleet credit bonusses, rest of content paid back the keys though (MU Ships, 2x Warfare Specialists, some Minipacks).
Atm I like the Boxes, the cashing in on the exchange is enormous.
(I made enough from 100K Dilithium and some Quicktrades to buy me any Tholian Ship,had 20 Keys to spare and correct a dumb 20Mio EC mistake)
In 4 weeks I will definitely hate them though.
Yet again another lockbox that has nothing I'm even remotely interested in getting.
Why keep putting all these ugly ships in lockboxes that are from races only a minority of Star Trek fans like. Why not something cool like a Breen lockbox so we can get Breen suits and Breen Starships
Fail.
You may not like them, but I think you're underestimating the popularity of the Tholians...
We only saw them once in TOS, and their energy web and mysterious appearance on the bridge screen got people interested. Fact, it was one of the better episodes of Season 3, which wasn't all that good overall. Then in ENT, we finally got a look at them, and people weren't disappointed with the overworldly feel of them.
And that was before the new Tholian ship designs, which many on these forums favored the look and feel.
And now, in the past few hours alone, I've seen more than a hundred people get Tholian Orb Weavers, the rarest prize in the lockbox. I'd say that's a clear sign of popularity, IMO, especially for an implied minority.
Was named Trek17.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
I spend 20 million of EC to buy keys in the Exchange and opened 10 Tholians Lockboxes (I alread have other 5 keys).
In five minutes I get with 10 lock box:
124 Lobi Cristals in the total
2 KDF Mirror ships (Lucre, because I have 3 kdf and 3 fed toons)
25,000 fleet credits bonus pool x2
5,000 fleet credits bonus pool x1
mini-cadre pack of quadrant gama x5
Ok, I have a lot of luck to get two KDF mirror ships in a roll, but after spending this amout of 20 million of EC to buy keys, I have to buy more in the exchange (and someone buy with the RL money to sell here) or take Zen to buy something.
I really hate the entire lockbox thing and hated the cardassian and the ferengi, but I have to admit: The rewards is good enough to make the spend money for some time.
I have an idea about Lockboxes based on my own uses of them:
I have previously avoided them, but with the Tholian Environmental Suit augmentation and other goodies in the Lobi Store I ended up spending $70.00 on them to generate the required Lobi and am satisfied.
I was planning on buying the two Tholian ships for Lobi when I discovered that I wouldn't get a Web console, the thing Tholians are most famous for, unless I won the ship from the boxes?
I feel the odds are pretty low for me to win this ship if I haven't gotten it yet so instead of inspiring me to spend more money on Lockboxes, this has put a hold on my purchasing more keys.
My idea is to put the web ship in the Lobi Store as well as the others as I would then be inspired to buy more keys to generate the necessary Lobi to buy not only it, but the other two ships as well.
I am sure there are others who feel this way also.
Brandon if you would put this in your feedback to the Devs as well I would be grateful.
This is a good idea but I'm a afraid i don;t ever see this happening after all they want to make the ship as rare as possible and despite all the spam on screen
such and such as won a orb ship I have never seen one just yet. Then again I havent seen anyone else apart from myself flying a mirror ship as well.
However Bran flakes please let us have a bridge skin so we can make it look like a terran empire ship on the inside
NO TO ARC
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
When I completed the orginal lockbox mission it became obvious that lockboxes are a lottery. I decided then that I wasn't going to bother with them.
Then the Tholians came along and after reading the discription of what was available I thought why not it looks like decent stuff.
My mistake was I didn't read the entire description I guess because if I'd read that I could quite easily get something worth 2.5% of what I'd spent; that I could get by visiting earth (and any place I can get duty officers from); then obviously I'd not have bought a key based on the fact I'd not bothered previously.
As I said in a previous post I wasn't expecting the best items just something that went a little way towards justifying spending 40,000 dilithium on a key. That's a week of refining! Instead I got 1 possibly usable green duty officer I could buy for 1000 dilithium or a few ECs.
I have no problem with paying for games or companies charging for stuff I want but I don't just jump in and spend money without trying it out first. If the idea is to generate revenue then I think the rewards should be appropriate for the time/effort/cash spent. In this case it clearly isn't and it has ruined the game for me because I feel like I've been ripped off.
Lock boxes in their current state are a rip off. And a plague that kills a lot of fun in the game. It makes a bad reputation for the game as well.
The drop rate for the gold boxes is still way to low. And the stuff you get is not worth mentioning. And the duplicate items you get all the time. I could go on and on. I will only open the Gold lock boxes. And that's if I feel like it.
I do buy ships from the C store. And my dollars are not being taken for the other cool ships when they are not available for purchase. Their should be a certain number of keys you purchase before the ship is available in the C store.
After maybe 30 keys purchased it should unlock it for purchase. And that's after spending all those C points. That makes the ship in the forty to fifty dollar range.
Depending on on the price. And they could still make the purchase for one character only. You should have to purchase thirty keys for each characters get the unlock. This would preserve the rarity.
The game would be so much better off if there is a guarantee you only have to purchase so many of these keys before you will get a cool ship. Or a chance to purchase the ship from the C store.
I for one would buy a lot more keys if it were the case. And if you think about it. If the purchase were a limited availability as well. It would encourage us to purchase more keys and more ships.
How about it Perfect world or Cryptic. Or whatever name you are calling yourself these days.
Will my idea make you enough profit for you to change the lock box system to make it more fair???????
Am I speaking your language=========$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ??????
The drop rate for the gold boxes is still way to low. And the stuff you get is not worth mentioning. And the duplicate items you get all the time. I could go on and on. I will only open the Gold lock boxes. And that's if I feel like it.
Tholian lock box ... gold edition? :cool:
And the stuff is worth mentioning, at least it sells on exchange for some cash.
And the stuff is worth mentioning, at least it sells on exchange for some cash.
I cannot disagree with you about the new boxes. I have yet to hear anything positive about them. I am speaking of course about previous lock boxes.
My experiences were very bad with the older lock boxes. These are probably no different for me. Until I hear more and that things have changed. I have no interest in the new lock boxes. I only want a rare ship and should not have to spend an arm and a leg to get one. They can still be rare and more accessible at the same time. Those other ships really mean nothing to me if the only reason you get one is pure dumb luck. I hope those who get them enjoy them. But its not for me when they are so hard to get. And there is no way to ever get one any other way. This is the way it is. FINE. I only proposed another way. A way which I think they would actually make more money. If there is some kind of guarantee I will eventually get one even if I am unlucky. Then I would eventually spend the cash to get the ship one way or another.
The real question is will they make more money by making the ships more accessible?
I believe they will. There are probably a lot of players willing to spend cash if the is an end to the madness. How much are they loosing from those willing to spend a lot. But not an endless chasm of money?
I choose to spend almost nothing. I would spend much more if I could have just one rare ship. Its all in the numbers!
Oh! And if there are no gold lock boxes. I may not even open any of the regulars. The odds are even worse. Its just to maddening to throw money away like that!!
In other PWE games, we whinge about lottos, but that's because its there and imbalancing the game.
However, when given a choice of lottos, and lockboxes that drop like flies, I'd gladly take lottos simply because even while it imbalances the game with P2W it doesn't keep breaking the immersion factor while doing so!
The Reinforcement package was a great design for a lotto. I'd buy tons of it if I had the wallet size. If the Tholian lockbox was like that, an entity existing on the C-store planted there by good ol Quark, there'd be less complaints and even people defending it.
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this tholian one however has been great. i feel like i either want every item or i can sell it for a decent sum of EC. Even the boxes themselves have a lower drop rate which not only stops you being spammed to death by them, but they are actually valuable to have and sell on the exchange.
the increase in the lobi, coupled with the more sensible pricing structure, plus a fixed price ship in the store have made this an enjoyable experience for me. if you're going for the ship its still a lottery and it can still get very expensive, so that element of luck is still there but for me this is how a lock box should have been from the start.
i think its even better than the doff pack promo as its half as expensive and you still get doffs a large chunk of the time but there are some other good items thrown in to stop it from being doffs only.
my only criticism is the fleet credit boost (which is helpful) are a little high in their drop rate. it almost feels like there needs to be one more item in there just to reduce the fleet mark drop rate and it seems there is no category to list the fleet credit bonus on the exchange either so we cant sell them (due to the general search being broken).
the rest im very happy with.
In game currencies that were supposed to go away to use a single currency have failed and been replaced with pay to win currencies.......I am disappointed get the torches and pitch forks time to see if StarFleet Command is under Ferengi mind control,undine invasion, mirror universe counterpart or
maybe a parasitical race that is trying to over tnrough the alpha quadrant?????
Business's change their minds all the time, for whatever reason. It's the same with Cryptic. It's better not to hold business's to promises that may not stay constant.
And orders are orders. Dshtal probably meant what he said, but when PWE took over, orders overrided that.
So Cryptic aren't really at fault on that issue. PWE is.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Like there's no GOLD Tholian Lock Box to be holding out for?
I got my first one and it's just white common. So, I'd like to know if I should wait for a better and discard this one, or fire away with master keys. :-P
Thanks!
I never mentioned the word Crytic in my post. It was directed at PWE who are in control. Cryptic is pretty much out of the picture. Next time read the post carefully.
Instead of Pakled World directing their efforts into getting this game back to the standard it was before they bought it, they are more concerned with money grubbing lottery of nothingness lockbox's and distraction techniques to take our eyes off the glaringly obvious problems the game has that are STILL NOT BEING ADDRESSED. Not to mention the amount of negative feedback posted on lockboxes since their first inception that was again ignored.
This was the message in my initial post, and is a shame I had to put it into an extended format so you could understand it.
***Disenchanted***
Real Join Date: Monday, 17 May 2010
But yeah, PWE is behind a lot of the feedback-ignored stuff. Cryptic did listen, did take into account, etc... but was ordered to ignore it, and say nothing to confirm or deny PWE ordered them to do so. At least I'm assuming that happened, and is happening.
Like the +1 T2 Nova. If Cryptic had been in control, it wouldn't have had the +1 stats in the first place... but they weren't in control.
It's just sad.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
Lock box 1. Mini Doff Pack
Lock Box 2. Tetryon Cannon
Lock Box 3. MU Star Cruiser (Pity it's doesnt have ISS)
Lock Box 4. Gamma Quadrent mini doff pack
Lock Box 5 MU Star Cruiser
It Seems the Star cruiser is the most common drop maybe with my last few keys I will get the tholian ship or enough lobi to get the fighter from the lobi store
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Why keep putting all these ugly ships in lockboxes that are from races only a minority of Star Trek fans like. Why not something cool like a Breen lockbox so we can get Breen suits and Breen Starships
Fail.
I must disagree. I opened 30 lockboxes and got no ship at all. Just some mini-doff-packs, fleet credit bonus and ship weapon packs ... that's all ... and extremely frustrating.
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Photonen im Eis a foundry mission by timeras13
Photonen im Schatten a foundry mission by timeras13
Seems like you don't like the new lockboxes either, so you agree with me that they suck, just for different reasons. I don't like the new ships, and you couldn't get the ships and got a bunch of garbage you don't want instead.
Ich completely agree with you, i just quote the wrong post.
Photonen im Wind a foundry mission by timeras13
Photonen im Eis a foundry mission by timeras13
Photonen im Schatten a foundry mission by timeras13
I'm kinda miffed that they reset the Lobi Store. I knew that they were no longer going to drop the Ferengi Lock Boxes, but I don't remember reading anywhere that they were going to clear out the Lobi store. I thought they were just going to add items to it. Instead they took all the Ferengi stuff out, and I really wanted to purchase that whip. I had enough, but just didn't get around to purchase it. Now no whip for me.
Atm I like the Boxes, the cashing in on the exchange is enormous.
(I made enough from 100K Dilithium and some Quicktrades to buy me any Tholian Ship,had 20 Keys to spare and correct a dumb 20Mio EC mistake)
In 4 weeks I will definitely hate them though.
We only saw them once in TOS, and their energy web and mysterious appearance on the bridge screen got people interested. Fact, it was one of the better episodes of Season 3, which wasn't all that good overall. Then in ENT, we finally got a look at them, and people weren't disappointed with the overworldly feel of them.
And that was before the new Tholian ship designs, which many on these forums favored the look and feel.
And now, in the past few hours alone, I've seen more than a hundred people get Tholian Orb Weavers, the rarest prize in the lockbox. I'd say that's a clear sign of popularity, IMO, especially for an implied minority.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
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1) No, Lockbox
2) Turn it off using the notification manager under the dropdown menu, Lockbox
3) Lockbox
4) Lockbox
5) Lockbox
Just to register...
I spend 20 million of EC to buy keys in the Exchange and opened 10 Tholians Lockboxes (I alread have other 5 keys).
In five minutes I get with 10 lock box:
124 Lobi Cristals in the total
2 KDF Mirror ships (Lucre, because I have 3 kdf and 3 fed toons)
25,000 fleet credits bonus pool x2
5,000 fleet credits bonus pool x1
mini-cadre pack of quadrant gama x5
Ok, I have a lot of luck to get two KDF mirror ships in a roll, but after spending this amout of 20 million of EC to buy keys, I have to buy more in the exchange (and someone buy with the RL money to sell here) or take Zen to buy something.
I really hate the entire lockbox thing and hated the cardassian and the ferengi, but I have to admit: The rewards is good enough to make the spend money for some time.
Oh ****, Crypt/PW want to me poor
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I have previously avoided them, but with the Tholian Environmental Suit augmentation and other goodies in the Lobi Store I ended up spending $70.00 on them to generate the required Lobi and am satisfied.
I was planning on buying the two Tholian ships for Lobi when I discovered that I wouldn't get a Web console, the thing Tholians are most famous for, unless I won the ship from the boxes?
I feel the odds are pretty low for me to win this ship if I haven't gotten it yet so instead of inspiring me to spend more money on Lockboxes, this has put a hold on my purchasing more keys.
My idea is to put the web ship in the Lobi Store as well as the others as I would then be inspired to buy more keys to generate the necessary Lobi to buy not only it, but the other two ships as well.
I am sure there are others who feel this way also.
Brandon if you would put this in your feedback to the Devs as well I would be grateful.
Thank You for your time.
such and such as won a orb ship I have never seen one just yet. Then again I havent seen anyone else apart from myself flying a mirror ship as well.
However Bran flakes please let us have a bridge skin so we can make it look like a terran empire ship on the inside
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
When I completed the orginal lockbox mission it became obvious that lockboxes are a lottery. I decided then that I wasn't going to bother with them.
Then the Tholians came along and after reading the discription of what was available I thought why not it looks like decent stuff.
My mistake was I didn't read the entire description I guess because if I'd read that I could quite easily get something worth 2.5% of what I'd spent; that I could get by visiting earth (and any place I can get duty officers from); then obviously I'd not have bought a key based on the fact I'd not bothered previously.
As I said in a previous post I wasn't expecting the best items just something that went a little way towards justifying spending 40,000 dilithium on a key. That's a week of refining! Instead I got 1 possibly usable green duty officer I could buy for 1000 dilithium or a few ECs.
I have no problem with paying for games or companies charging for stuff I want but I don't just jump in and spend money without trying it out first. If the idea is to generate revenue then I think the rewards should be appropriate for the time/effort/cash spent. In this case it clearly isn't and it has ruined the game for me because I feel like I've been ripped off.
The drop rate for the gold boxes is still way to low. And the stuff you get is not worth mentioning. And the duplicate items you get all the time. I could go on and on. I will only open the Gold lock boxes. And that's if I feel like it.
I do buy ships from the C store. And my dollars are not being taken for the other cool ships when they are not available for purchase. Their should be a certain number of keys you purchase before the ship is available in the C store.
After maybe 30 keys purchased it should unlock it for purchase. And that's after spending all those C points. That makes the ship in the forty to fifty dollar range.
Depending on on the price. And they could still make the purchase for one character only. You should have to purchase thirty keys for each characters get the unlock. This would preserve the rarity.
The game would be so much better off if there is a guarantee you only have to purchase so many of these keys before you will get a cool ship. Or a chance to purchase the ship from the C store.
I for one would buy a lot more keys if it were the case. And if you think about it. If the purchase were a limited availability as well. It would encourage us to purchase more keys and more ships.
How about it Perfect world or Cryptic. Or whatever name you are calling yourself these days.
Will my idea make you enough profit for you to change the lock box system to make it more fair???????
Am I speaking your language=========$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ??????
Tholian lock box ... gold edition? :cool:
And the stuff is worth mentioning, at least it sells on exchange for some cash.
I cannot disagree with you about the new boxes. I have yet to hear anything positive about them. I am speaking of course about previous lock boxes.
My experiences were very bad with the older lock boxes. These are probably no different for me. Until I hear more and that things have changed. I have no interest in the new lock boxes. I only want a rare ship and should not have to spend an arm and a leg to get one. They can still be rare and more accessible at the same time. Those other ships really mean nothing to me if the only reason you get one is pure dumb luck. I hope those who get them enjoy them. But its not for me when they are so hard to get. And there is no way to ever get one any other way. This is the way it is. FINE. I only proposed another way. A way which I think they would actually make more money. If there is some kind of guarantee I will eventually get one even if I am unlucky. Then I would eventually spend the cash to get the ship one way or another.
The real question is will they make more money by making the ships more accessible?
I believe they will. There are probably a lot of players willing to spend cash if the is an end to the madness. How much are they loosing from those willing to spend a lot. But not an endless chasm of money?
I choose to spend almost nothing. I would spend much more if I could have just one rare ship. Its all in the numbers!
Oh! And if there are no gold lock boxes. I may not even open any of the regulars. The odds are even worse. Its just to maddening to throw money away like that!!
However, when given a choice of lottos, and lockboxes that drop like flies, I'd gladly take lottos simply because even while it imbalances the game with P2W it doesn't keep breaking the immersion factor while doing so!
The Reinforcement package was a great design for a lotto. I'd buy tons of it if I had the wallet size. If the Tholian lockbox was like that, an entity existing on the C-store planted there by good ol Quark, there'd be less complaints and even people defending it.
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