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Converting green Doffs to white?

indarys70indarys70 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2012 in Duty Officer System and R&D
So, stupidly, I converted all my white doffs to green while I was buying doff packs. I now have around 300 green doffs, 80 blues, and 20 purples, but no whites. Can I back-convert greens to whites to use in fleet upgrades?
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  • beezle23beezle23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    indarys70 wrote: »
    So, stupidly, I converted all my white doffs to green while I was buying doff packs. I now have around 300 green doffs, 80 blues, and 20 purples, but no whites. Can I back-convert greens to whites to use in fleet upgrades?

    Conversion is only one--way.

    Just do the academy recruiting missions to get more whites.
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  • borticuscrypticborticuscryptic Member Posts: 2,478 Cryptic Developer
    edited July 2012
    We'll be introducing Exchange assignments soon that will allow you to trade in a single green, blue or purple, for 3 duty officers of the next lower quality level, chosen at random.

    It's not very efficient, we know that. It's intended to be a means for folks in the OP's position to still have an option to contribute white quality doffs to their fleet projects.
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  • defalusdefalus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    We'll be introducing Exchange assignments soon that will allow you to trade in a single green, blue or purple, for 3 duty officers of the next lower quality level, chosen at random.

    It's not very efficient, we know that. It's intended to be a means for folks in the OP's position to still have an option to contribute white quality doffs to their fleet projects.

    I also think it will help those of us (like me) who convert 5 blues and end up with purple botanist number 12.:D

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  • commodoreshrvkcommodoreshrvk Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    We'll be introducing Exchange assignments soon that will allow you to trade in a single green, blue or purple, for 3 duty officers of the next lower quality level, chosen at random.

    It's not very efficient, we know that. It's intended to be a means for folks in the OP's position to still have an option to contribute white quality doffs to their fleet projects.

    I think it would be nice if it was 4. I get the point that there should be some loss so people don't keep flipping DOFFs to get what they want, but the prices costs in DOFFs for Season 6's content is pretty steep and with missions to get them on such a long cooldown I see a lot of bottle-necking occurring and even more difficulty for smaller fleets to compete.
  • crusty8maccrusty8mac Member Posts: 1,381 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Sell unwanted greens on exchange. Use EC to buy whites. Problem solved.
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  • tgebhardttgebhardt Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    crusty8mac wrote: »
    Sell unwanted greens on exchange. Use EC to buy whites. Problem solved.

    Are you aware that currently whites doffs are more expensiv than green ones? Hell I even saw a few blue ones that where cheaper than some white security officers.
  • whitewhale80whitewhale80 Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Iam just getting use to the Doff system so iam not quite sure why you would want to go back to what I presume to be lower quality doffs, is there a preference to white officers for certain tasks?
  • mikewendellmikewendell Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    whitewhale80 wrote: »
    Iam just getting use to the Doff system so iam not quite sure why you would want to go back to what I presume to be lower quality doffs, is there a preference to white officers for certain tasks?

    The lower level fleet starbase building missions have white doffs required for them. You have to turn them in.
  • burchenallburchenall Member Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    whitewhale80 wrote: »
    Iam just getting use to the Doff system so iam not quite sure why you would want to go back to what I presume to be lower quality doffs, is there a preference to white officers for certain tasks?

    Suddently fleet projects ask for white DOffs now that most people like me were almost rid of even the green ones.


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  • switchngcswitchngc Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    tgebhardt wrote: »
    Are you aware that currently whites doffs are more expensiv than green ones? Hell I even saw a few blue ones that where cheaper than some white security officers.

    Sweet! I could make a killing with the 500 or so white DOFFs in my mailbox :)
  • eradicator84eradicator84 Member Posts: 1,116 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    All fleet projects only take white doffs? I managed to put a green one in a project over the weekend :S

    That's something I was thinking about too, should green = 2 points into project? Blue = 3, purple = 4 etc?
    And their respective fleet credits earned should go up accordingly too.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    SOME fleet projects require whites.
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  • lordhavelocklordhavelock Member Posts: 2,248 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    It would make so much more sense if the Fleet missions that "require white-only DOffs" be reworked so they now except "white or better". Green DOff missions require Green or better, etc.

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  • skurfskurf Member Posts: 1,071 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    lordhavelock wrote: »
    It would make so much more sense if the Fleet missions that "require white-only DOffs" be reworked so they now except "white or better". Green DOff missions require Green or better, etc.

    Whoa there sonny! You're making too much sense for us simple folk. What are you, some kind of Vulcan or something?
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  • mikewendellmikewendell Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    skurf wrote: »
    Whoa there sonny! You're making too much sense for us simple folk. What are you, some kind of Vulcan or something?

    Heck let's make him a producer.

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  • truewarpertruewarper Member Posts: 930 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    It is hoped, that the process can affect bonded Green DoFFs as well. I just did a massive reassignment with 60+ personell of blue and greens to other ships and Starbases. Just prior to Season 6 arrival.

    The other Greens *bonded* have earned their keep to stay aboard my ship.
    borticuscryptic wrote: »
    We'll be introducing Exchange assignments soon that will allow you to trade in a single green, blue or purple, for 3 duty officers of the next lower quality level, chosen at random.

    It's not very efficient, we know that. It's intended to be a means for folks in the OP's position to still have an option to contribute white quality doffs to their fleet projects.
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  • caliban149caliban149 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    eradicator84 wrote: »
    That's something I was thinking about too, should green = 2 points into project? Blue = 3, purple = 4 etc?
    And their respective fleet credits earned should go up accordingly too.
    lordhavelock wrote: »
    It would make so much more sense if the Fleet missions that "require white-only DOffs" be reworked so they now except "white or better". Green DOff missions require Green or better, etc.

    These are both excellent / sensible ideas.

    I guess no one is there yet but I'm hoping the white doff requirement will evaporate as peoples starbases get to higher levels.
    I hope that much beyond level 0/1 all these white doffs won't be needed any more.

    You should also be able to contribute bound Doffs to starbases . . . I see no reason why not.
  • darkjeffdarkjeff Member Posts: 2,590 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    caliban149 wrote: »
    You should also be able to contribute bound Doffs to starbases . . . I see no reason why not.

    I have alts that exist solely to feed DOffs to my main, and from what I can tell there's two types of bound DOffs.

    The first are the weakly bound DOffs, such as the ones in your initial DOff pack. Those can be traded in at the Personnel Officer for a higher tier DOff, which is unbound.

    The second are the strongly bound DOffs, such as the ones purchased at LT. Ferra, which cannot be traded in at the Personnel Officer. This seems to be intended to prevent the subversion of the DOff rarity system, as you would be able to get an endless supply of unbound Blues and Purples from dilithium.

    I suspect the weakly bound DOffs can be turned in at personnel swap missions like those resulting from the Bajor or Cardassia consulate chain, while the strongly bound DOffs cannot. I suspect the same would apply to starbase project contribution, but it's a little hard to verify as my main is swimming in DOffs while the alts are too far behind to check.
  • caliban149caliban149 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    darkjeff wrote: »
    I have alts that exist solely to feed DOffs to my main, and from what I can tell there's two types of bound DOffs.

    The first are the weakly bound DOffs, such as the ones in your initial DOff pack. Those can be traded in at the Personnel Officer for a higher tier DOff, which is unbound.

    The second are the strongly bound DOffs, such as the ones purchased at LT. Ferra, which cannot be traded in at the Personnel Officer. This seems to be intended to prevent the subversion of the DOff rarity system, as you would be able to get an endless supply of unbound Blues and Purples from dilithium.

    I suspect the weakly bound DOffs can be turned in at personnel swap missions like those resulting from the Bajor or Cardassia consulate chain, while the strongly bound DOffs cannot. I suspect the same would apply to starbase project contribution, but it's a little hard to verify as my main is swimming in DOffs while the alts are too far behind to check.

    Quite possibly but I still think you should be able to put ANY Doff into a starbase project,
    including those bought from Lt Ferra.

    I honestly can't see why not, once you put a Doff into a starbase, poof its gone forever along with anything you spent to get hold of it.
    I can't see how that could really be exploited.

    If you could use Ferra's it would
    A) Eliminate the supply problem for green and better, hopefully leading to an end of the ridiculous pricing on exchange.
    B) Create ANOTHER dilithium sink to stop you turning it into Zen.

    Good for us, good for PWE.
  • beezle23beezle23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    darkjeff wrote: »
    I have alts that exist solely to feed DOffs to my main, and from what I can tell there's two types of bound DOffs.

    The first are the weakly bound DOffs, such as the ones in your initial DOff pack. Those can be traded in at the Personnel Officer for a higher tier DOff, which is unbound.

    The second are the strongly bound DOffs, such as the ones purchased at LT. Ferra, which cannot be traded in at the Personnel Officer. This seems to be intended to prevent the subversion of the DOff rarity system, as you would be able to get an endless supply of unbound Blues and Purples from dilithium.

    I suspect the weakly bound DOffs can be turned in at personnel swap missions like those resulting from the Bajor or Cardassia consulate chain, while the strongly bound DOffs cannot. I suspect the same would apply to starbase project contribution, but it's a little hard to verify as my main is swimming in DOffs while the alts are too far behind to check.

    Which category are the "Bound because they served in one of the space/ground slots?" --- I can't trade them in as "underperforming", but it will accept them as base donations.
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  • darkjeffdarkjeff Member Posts: 2,590 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    caliban149 wrote: »
    Quite possibly but I still think you should be able to put ANY Doff into a starbase project, including those bought from Lt Ferra.
    That would essentially be bypassing the DOff system entirely, and just an alternative way of paying dilithium.
    beezle23 wrote: »
    Which category are the "Bound because they served in one of the space/ground slots?" --- I can't trade them in as "underperforming", but it will accept them as base donations.
    I'd entirely forgotten about those, my alts (which would be the ones playing with bound/unbound to send them to my main) never equipped any DOffs. :o
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