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grandmasterbushell
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Will Cryptic ever release the Ambassador (Enterprise C) and Universe (Enterprise J) Class ships?
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(Though not sure how it will fit in with the new Fleet ships).
The Enterprise-J, I recall the Devs making a comment about that a long time ago. I would like to say they didn't want it in, but given we were hinted that they wanted the Relativity-class (31st Century) ship being involved in STO, I don't see why not the Enterprise-J being added to STO.
For years, I been hoping they add the Battle of Procyon (which the Enterprise-J) was involved. And those 24th Century Ships (the Vor'cha, the Prometheus) that we saw on Enterprise ends up being us being transported into the future to help.
Of course, that would require some clever storytelling which explains us being moved into the future and tie that all in with the Temporal War.
If I recall correctly it was CBS that said no to the J, that's how we ended up getting the F instead.
The J is too big to really be in game anyway, its two miles long, the thing would make the Odyssey look tiny.
That would be an awesome mission, and explain what all those ships were doing there.
As far as the Universe-class goes, I do remember Cryptic at one point saying that they might add in ships that look like they might start a bridge between current designs and the future design of the Universe. That could be interesting.
But that battle not taking place would affect the present.
Seeing that battle is part of Archer's experience. Even though he was in the future at the time, he was from the past, and Daniels showing him that battle helped to shape Archer's decisions. If the battle never happens, then Archer didn't see it, and he would have behaved differently as a result. Butterfly effect and so forth.
Though Star Trek is usually very loose with temporal causality anyway, so whatever I guess...
The ambassador is long overdue and should have been a day 1 ship sitting in the cruiser line up in place of the 4 nacelle monstrosities.
I seriously doubt that ship would even make it even as a Lockbox ship.
At best, Cryptic creates a predecessor ship that looks similar (which was supposed to be the original idea of the DTNE contest :rolleyes:) and add it as a Tier 6 ship.
No different than having B'ger from the Red Alerts in size. All they have to do is have the Enterprise-J have a slow turn radius and practically be a sitting fortress.
That Alternate Future could easily exist in this timeline just like how we got the Galaxy-X, the Olympic, and several plots from TNG: All Good things.
Remember the Sphere Builders are also time travelers, so what's to say they didn't try again in this timeline and we ended up thrusted into the future at the Battle of Procyon V. So while we are fighting, Archer is on the Enterprise-J, watching us fight.
In a recent interview with dStahl, he stated that the Ambassador Class will come "sometime after season 7" and "after the next 14-or-so ships are released". He also stated that while Season Six was slated for Late June (obviously running a bit behind schedule already), Season 7 would be "sometime before the end of the year". So the shorthand answer is "they're thinking they'll get around to it at some point next year maybe."
The builders are gong to try again in about a 150 years, only this time the xindi are going to go to the feds for help and the feds are going to send them packing in style this time. The whole events of season 3 where the sphere builders attempts from the future to get around their defeat by invading in the past.
J got nixed because the ship's scale makes it wacky in our game.
Other comments about the Ambassador and Well's class are interesting rumors that haven't been confirmed yet... but could be true.
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They also siad they want to save the ambassador for a FE which they appearently are not going to do anymore because hey who needs a story when you can grind for stuff:rolleyes:
To be fair, FEs are kind of a waste of resources.
I mean, let's be realistic: the storytelling in STO just isn't that good. The game engine doesn't really allow for interesting and exciting cutscenes, unless they were to pre-render something (which they really should have). The writing and the voice acting aren't that great, either.
What is awesome is their environment, gear, and ship designs. Everybody loved the Facility, and everyone wanted the photonic guards' armor sets.
If they had poured the effort they put into the 2800, and instead created several endgame STFs and rewards, players might gripe about having no story, but they'd have less to complain about when it comes to things to actually do every day when they log in. More STF content is a good thing, way better than FEs, and if they do it right they can still tell a story with STFs.
They could make more Fleet Actions, too, like a 10 or 20-person map where you have to defend Defera from a Breen fleet that's bombarding cities from orbit. I dunno.
I'd just much rather have repeatable content than FEs.
Im not opposed to the J being ingame as a mission with time travel, but player controlled ones for all to have is just beyond any kind of reason ingame. Not sure if even fully zoomed out you would be able to see the whole ship worth a flip.
We have been lied to/mislead/bad information from cryptic so many time any time they say "hey, it will be out by XX date" i take a shot. Thanks to that im perma drunk
Cryptic says ambassador looks to much like galaxy so its confusing, nah see it LOOKS DIFFERENT. Nothing confusing there, 5-6 versions of the Galaxy class.... THATS CONFUSING. 5-6 versions of same ship and they have yet to make one thats really inticing to play save the Gal X and we arent getting a fleet version of it for some bizzaro reason.
I give cryptic a pat on the back when they do good, but i whince every time they release something because it is so poorly tested/implemented that it packs more bugs/harm then good.
I say we make THEM take a shot every time they do something like that, if nothing else they will be life of the party after a season update?!
This depends entirely on the type of player, what you call a waste of resources is one of the main reasons I play STO.
I for one don't consider the STF's any more repeatable than any other content in this game. I can do STFs over and over, or I can do the story content over and over. The only difference is the story and some endgame shinies that, to be quite honest, I have absolutely no need for since I can do all the content I enjoy easily enough that I now go for attempting it in my lower tiered ships.
Where is everyone getting the idea of an Enterprise-J? What non-canon source happens to be that influential that everyone recognizes it? (except me, apparently).
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nope its cannon from ST: enterprise
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(NCC-1701-J)
no. pyrocon V was the expanse being created during the 22nd century onwards that had now filled up this area of the galaxy by the 26th century. no one knew they were created by the spheres of what the sphere builders where the ones behind. it kept growing until a suitable portion of the galaxy was converted they launched their invasion. that failed.
so then they went back into the past and tried a different tactic. to destroy earth to stop the feds from defeating them later on so when they do finally invade they would win. they were defeated by archer and his crew, the spheres were destroyed and the expanse was never formed in the first place. it then created a new timeline of events.
therefore the battle of Pyrocon 5 wont happen as there is no expanse anymore. if they ever try to make a new expanse the feds would be all over it before they even get one solar system converted as they know what to look for and who is behind it. they may well try again in some fashion but it wont be at that battle.
the sphere builds only used the xindi because their first plan failed, even though it happened 4 centuries later from our point of view. they are not going to attack again in 150 years because they will know that it would fail again, and this time they have no expanse for them to live in either.
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article doesn't exist, so how can I take your word?
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it the way the forum is treating the link either add a ")" to the end of the link or just search for enterprise j in memory alpha
what was it the janeway said about time travel at the end of the ep relativity?? :P
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_%28NCC-1701-J%29
I believe it was 'TRIBBLE the temporal prime directive, the first chance I get I'm changing the last 20 year of galactic history to suit my own needs.'
I may be paraphrasing slightly.
Many missions are more enjoyable than STFs. STFs are only about "target and fire at will", which has very little to do with the Star Trek universe. Unfortunately, the best missions often have the worst rewards (I name good reward something I can sell for ECs), but anyway.
Don't say we don't need any story. Say you don't need one. You can enjoy wow-like content, but don't think you are entitled to speak in the name ofthe majority of players.
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It's certainly a canon class though. I always liked the idea of us seeing it in a FE or something, with us taking part in that final battle with the sphere builders, like Azurian said, it would explain the old ships present as the battle as well :-)