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  • piwright42piwright42 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
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    Andrea Rossi, (the inventor of E-Cat), graduated from the University of Milan with a degree in philosophy. He has also spent six months in jail for tax evasion and environmental crimes from his dealings with Petrol Dragon, a company that was supposed to convert biowaste to fuel that collapsed. He may have been acquitted ten years after the six month stint in jail but that the government of the Lombardia region still had to spend over forty million euros to dispose of the 70,000 tonnes of toxic waste that Petrol Dragon was storing on site it all makes me wonder about the quality of his character.
    If you are a pickle in a pickle jar you know every pickle's different, sort of, but really they're all just pickles...
    They taste the same.
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  • drumcd74656drumcd74656 Member Posts: 183 Arc User
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    Ok, why not.

    ...reads...

    Hmm. I see alot of articles that go through many hoops trying to rationalize where the missing neutrons are. And a lot of people that are avoiding peer-review and going straight to "commercialization". That ought to be a huge red flag to anyone.

    Oh, I did find this really interesting.
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    Question 11. What do you know of Rossi's offer to NASA and the University of Bologna to pay them to test an e-cat device?

    On July 14, 2011, Rossi verbally agreed to pay NASA $50,000 to test his device. On July 22, 2011, Rossi rescinded that offer, and instead, offered to allow NASA to test his device if they paid him $15 million. Of course, NASA told Rossi they were not going to pay him anything.

    On March 10, 2011, Rossi said that he was paying ?500,000 to the University of Bologna to test and evaluate his device. Ten months later, he had paid nothing to the university and so on Jan. 15, 2012, they cancelled the contract.
    http://nextbigfuture.com/2012/03/steven-krivit-and-troubling-case-of.html

    I think NASA would have been disappointed had they spent $1 on testing a nickel catalyst in water.
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  • drumcd74656drumcd74656 Member Posts: 183 Arc User
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    You know, if it is *this* easy to turn nickel into heaver isotopes, why does it take a supernova to do it?
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  • drumcd74656drumcd74656 Member Posts: 183 Arc User
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    Didn't ask them. I asked you, professor.

    p.s. I really liked slide 54:
    "What is the energy producing reaction...?"

    They don't have a clue!
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  • drumcd74656drumcd74656 Member Posts: 183 Arc User
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    Yep, sure did read it.
    They didn't check for radioactive products.
    They didn't look for any radioactive emissions.
    They couldn't account for bunk.

    They created a wonderful new efficient catalyzer.

    We've known nickel and palladium and their function as catalysts for well on a century now.

    And I'm asking you because you started this whole mess. I would have expected that you would have at least had the basic comprehension skills to understand what you're posting.

    Guess not.
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  • drumcd74656drumcd74656 Member Posts: 183 Arc User
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    piwright42 wrote: »
    Matrix-assisted laser desorption/ionization

    High-performance liquid chromatography

    Forgive my ignorance but you develop tests for chemistry?

    Cool beans if so.

    Yep, sure do. The other acronyms are Karl Fischer Coulometry, Time-of-Flight Mass Spectroscopy, Capillary-Gell Electrophoresis and Size Exclusion Chromatography.
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  • drumcd74656drumcd74656 Member Posts: 183 Arc User
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    sophlogimo wrote: »
    Hm... B.S.


    Do you have any indication that they are right? You seem to believe so because you're constantly posting whatever Google brings up. And what do you base that belief on? What scientific foundation do you base that on? Just because they say so? :rolleyes:

    It is incumbent on the person making the astonishing claim to support that claim. I'm not going to do the heavy work for you. That's your job.

    And the only thing you can give back is that your assertion is right and everyone else is wrong. Much like every other thread you have posted in. :eek:
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  • drumcd74656drumcd74656 Member Posts: 183 Arc User
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    Aliens called Annunaki came from the planet Nibiru came to Earth and created mankind in genetic experiments on hominids to farm our gold. After the Sumerian civilization was created in their tenure, they left to go home. In so, they directly influenced our development as a civilization around the world.

    I can post hundreds of sites examining "proof" with one quick Google search.

    I can list quotations, cite researchers and link to photographic 'evidence'.

    I'm right because if you say I'm wrong, you're saying that all these other people are liars, frauds and cheats. And besides, you can't DISPROVE it either.

    So, there!

    Not probable enough to not even switch your brain on? Switch it on! The truth is out there!
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  • drumcd74656drumcd74656 Member Posts: 183 Arc User
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    OMFG you are dense.

    You don't even see that for what it is, do you? Are you that blind? Just for a moment, think about that 'alien' post and for a second and compare it to the gist of what you have been saying. Honestly.

    Now, go to the library and pick up some good books on chemistry and/or astronomy. And pay attention to Occam's razor.
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  • drumcd74656drumcd74656 Member Posts: 183 Arc User
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    Nope, not them. I'm saying it to You.
    Goodnight Ansophlogimo
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  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
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    epic troll thread is EEPPIICC
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  • piwright42piwright42 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
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    sophlogimo wrote: »
    "Also, Defkalion looks like they are coming out with a working LENR generator this summer, and Brillouin is saying they could come out with a LENR boiler in a year, so it isn?t necessary to even bring Rossi?s name into a discussion of LENR if the controversy is unbearable. The Rossi thing has become quite a Strawman Argument, where people who don't even know that LENR is a proven scientific phenomena throw away the whole LENR baby with the bathwater because of a conceptual bias using Rossi as the rationale."

    I suggest we go over to some actual scientist, like George Miley of the University of Illinois. Commercial applications will prove or disprove themselves, and we cannot look into their experiments anyway. Scientists are, by nature, much more accessible.

    You brought in E-Cat that opens the door to analysis of Rossi's background, character and potential motivations with E-Cat.

    When I invest in something I do more than read the perspectus, I also look into the people pitching the perspectus.
    If you are a pickle in a pickle jar you know every pickle's different, sort of, but really they're all just pickles...
    They taste the same.
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  • lilchibiclarililchibiclari Member Posts: 1,193 Arc User
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    You know, if it is *this* easy to turn nickel into heaver isotopes, why does it take a supernova to do it?

    Yes. Isotopes with a mass of 56-60 sit at the very bottom of the nuclear energy well. Thus, fusing any nuclei heavier than 60 is an inherently endothermic process (i.e. there is a net absorption of energy). As a result, expecting a net energy release from fusing nickel into copper is like expecting a ball to roll faster as it goes uphill. If anything, you would get a net energy release from fissioning copper into nickel plus assorted hydrogen/deuterium ions.
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  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
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    Just a off topic question here which has to do with nuclear energy, has anyone invented a smaller yet just as powerful nuclear reactor/plant whatever its called these days? Because I was reading about the new electric propulsion scientists and engineers have been developing such as the VASIMR engine which looks promising or the PIT engine.
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