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alexindcobra
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Why aren't many people using the Galaxy Class Ships in STF's and PVP? I can tell you a couple reasons. One is that the cruiser is crippled by a very slow turn rate tha doesn't make since, because the are larger ships that out turn it. Another reason is that it has no modifiers, thus bringing no benefit to owning one. Just bringing sauser separation is not a bonus because it doens't boost anything for you and many ships not can separate, and their pets have more effecttive support tactics than the Galaxy Sauser. This Cruiser has little DPS properties so its very hard to do alot in Elite STF's and since torpedos barely put wear on shields, the ship is difficult to be affective in PVP. The Galaxy attracts the most attacks in PVP not because its the biggest threat but its the easiest target or kill. This is due to the lowest deffense: turning too slow to rotate a facing shields, not being able to get attackers off your stern, and not being to dish out damage that would deter attack for being in so bold and close.
I am a Tac Captain who is still try to faithfuly fly my Galaxy to represent true canonism and weather the difficulties of using it in this game.
What are your thought?
I am a Tac Captain who is still try to faithfuly fly my Galaxy to represent true canonism and weather the difficulties of using it in this game.
What are your thought?
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Lt Commander science instead of the Ensign eng. and I would fly it. Turnrate is ok for a fat cruiser.
I do however still fly a Galaxy-X, because to date no other ship has been able to match its ability to instantaneously eliminate any opponent from the engagement at whim.
"Yes, I fly a Galaxy-X... and yes, I just 1-shotted you with it." -- Alcione@Hakaishin
If the ship were say, 1200 CP it would be worth it but as it stands, just get 400 more c points (or 500 more Zen next week) and get a Operations Odyssey if you want to play with saucer separation.
Although the Galaxy-R is definitely not underpowered or useless as some make it up to be, dollar for dollar as a c-store ship, it's not worth the purchase. No, not even for the classic looks... unless you really want the Galaxy model for roleplaying purpose or like me, just trying to be funny buying the worst ships and having fun with them.
You'll end up with the same conclusion though - Odyssey is superior.
Now, if someone gave the Galaxy R a universal ensign or a Lt. Cdr Science boff, that would be a worthwhile and unique ship type. But it ain't gonna happen.
So you might as well get a Dreadnaught or an Odyssey for a endgame cruiser.
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OK, I'm sorry for the off topic but this is something you continually repeat.
The word is "sense", not "since".
To answer your question all of the Galaxy Captains are flying better cruisers, which is basically all of them.
If it is functional and does what I want it to do, I will use it.
Aesthetics don't mean a whole lot in PvP. If anything, if given the option, most of my fellow PvPers would probably paint their ships neon pink and swap out the warp nacells for d1ld0s and fly under the banner of the great Starfleet Tactical Wing "Pink R4P1STS".
Their opponents would be too distracted to actually pose any real threat. Brilliant tactic on their end, I might add, particularly given it is an unintentional side-effect of our sense of humor.
That said... Galaxy-R offers no real incentive to fly it versus the Odyssey or Galaxy-X (particularly if Cryptic wasn't trolling and gives the Galaxy-X saucer-sep as well).
So when I see it on the other side of the field, I have come to the following conclusions:
1.) My opponent is new to PvP.
2.) My opponent is a seasoned PvPer and is trolling his team for lulz.
3.) My opponent is a seasoned PvPer and is trying to prove a point that the ship is sub-par by comparison to others available.
4.) My opponent is a seasoned PvPer, but just not a good one.
Regardless of which conclusion is the correct one, the end of the match is still the same.
Still, I can't say too much... many have said the same of the Galaxy-X.
I actually STARTED using the Galaxy-X as a joke. Just to troll people with probably the most laughed-at ship of the time (back then, even the Galaxy-R was considered superior).
After enough victories, enough videos being made of what the ship can do if used right, that changed.
"Yes, I fly a Galaxy-X... and yes, I just 1-shotted you with it." -- Alcione@Hakaishin
For one this old timer may and will become a solid tanker.
That's the last thing you need. I remember fighting you already.
You're already too much tank. :P
Last thing you need is MOAR T4NKZ! :eek:
"Yes, I fly a Galaxy-X... and yes, I just 1-shotted you with it." -- Alcione@Hakaishin
Not necessarily. The console layout for a healer or tank is quite impressive, and superior to the Oddy.
But, the Oddy BOFF layout is better.
It wouldn't be a horrible ship.
But, you're right - it would be very expensive for very little return.
"Yes, I fly a Galaxy-X... and yes, I just 1-shotted you with it." -- Alcione@Hakaishin
Oh, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Vast cost for such a tiny return.
"Yes, I fly a Galaxy-X... and yes, I just 1-shotted you with it." -- Alcione@Hakaishin
Well, don't forget how they were used as battleships during the Dominion war. Any ship can be used for exloration and all ships have science capability. The Enterprise was the first of its kind and it came out during a time of peace. That peace was over after dealing with the borg and ending up on several stalemates with the Romulans. When the Dominion War broke out, Galaxy Class ships were repurposed as battleships and some were retrofited with phaser blisters on the Engine nacelles.
To those who think I am noob (I have been in this game since the beginning) for using the Galaxy R in PVP, come try me. Know the name "Li Xao Long."
No, it isn't.
Ody Ops Cruiser = 5 / 2 / 3
Fleet Gal-R = 5 / 2 / 3
With it's superior BOFF options, and 1.15 vs. 1.1 base shield modifier the Odyssey Ops cruiser wins as more shields is better than more hull.
The Sci Ody is the superior option to both of them, with a 4th Sci console and Sensor Analysis which is stronger than any single (or even 2) Tac Consoles.
In fact, if you own the Ody pack - you already own nearly everything any of the new Fleet Retrofits could give you mechanically aside from 1 point of base Turn rate for the SC & AC and 2K Hull for the Fleet Gal-R.
EDIT* The AC also has 4 Tac Consoles vs. the Tac Ody only having 3.
I thought Oddy only had 4 Engineer consoles. My mistake.
"Yes, I fly a Galaxy-X... and yes, I just 1-shotted you with it." -- Alcione@Hakaishin
Ult, I know this is slightly off topic but what's your take on the new Fleet Assault cruiser? The one with no sci slot and a universal LT. I'm very interested on it as a tank who wants maximum possible DPS.
well usually in a team with 4 other Galaxys
(we WIN consistantly and get 75% of optionals)
Sometimes in a pug but only if that pug does not abuse us on arrival (and it happens)
Where are we in PVP?
avoiding it
because a Galaxy captain is USUALLY a Role player or a PVE player
and we do not want to spend time blowing someone on the same team (federation) into Tiny tiny bits
AS to the ODDY being the be all and end all
Well its not
oh its a little more popular
but it steers like a COW and anyway its not A Galaxy
A team with 5 Galaxy classes (or 3 Galaxys and a couple of Nebulas) can deal with pretty much any mission .
And look good doing it
If you like the oddy fly the oddy
if you like the galaxy Fly the Galaxy
if you fly ESCORTS or anything elsw don't try and tell the Cruiser boys and Girls what WE should fly .
you don't see us saying "the defiant is underpowered and needs 6 foreward and 6 aft weapon slots and a commander tactical slot" do ya ??
You're *mostly* correct, as the Sci, Tac and Free/Fleet Ody versions all have 4 Eng Console slots.
Only the Ops has 5.
Well, it's basically the exact BOFF layout that I run on my Ody for STFs.
If you're options are Tac Ody vs. Fleet AC-R and you have a Fleet that can get it I like the AC for it's visual appeal, a bit of extra turn and 4th Tac Console.
The trade off would be a touch of shield modifier (1.15 for Ody, 1.1 for AC).
For myself, Sensor Analysis has proven significantly stronger than even 1 Tac Console (Tac Ody vs. Sci Ody) - I'll have to test the AC-R if/when I can get my hands on it to test 2 extra tac consoles vs. Sensor Analysis.
I Can confirm that my Galaxy Dreadnought has been mothed balled since i got my Oddy. And she may never see space again. She was fun to fly but she was out classed and out dated, and the holodecks kept on spawning AI that wanted to takeover the ship
Well, I was primarily speaking to the Gal-R.
The Gal-X isn't saddled with the Gal-R's sub-par BOFF layout, gaining the Assault Cruiser BOFF layout, an extra Tac console as well as the Phaser Lance.
That being said, Sensor Analysis as a DPS tool is much stronger than 1 Tac console, and all versions of the Ody have much better shields and hull.
I hated to shelf my Dread, but the Sci Ody with 4x Shield Consoles, Sensor Analysis and Uni Ltc & Ens stations were all too much to argue with.
I thought i would mention the Galaxy Dreadnought because it's based on the Galaxy class and you dont see that many in space anymore, and because i think it's the best looking Galaxy Class ship out there...Might take her out for a spin around ESD for old time. Any one fancy forming a fleet of Galaxy ships and do a few runs of STF or pvp for lol email me
but i got it before the ody pack came out and it was on sale. i got the venture during the last sale
the only thing i hate about it is the ensign eng slot really hard to find something to put there do to global cool downs
Fight me. I'll show you how "sub-par" I am.
"Yes, I fly a Galaxy-X... and yes, I just 1-shotted you with it." -- Alcione@Hakaishin
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1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
yes most people fly something that can turn.
yes it does. it also will spit it agian after the 5 min cool down