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valkery1991
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just wonderinf if the federation carriers will ever get any good fighters because compared to the klingon frigates and birds of prey are ships are TRIBBLE i mean they fire tricolt torps and mines they have high yied abilities and can rapid fire and all we have tractor beam 2 i mean thats a bit unfair
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Not really taking into consideration that the frigates and bop drop one at a time as opposed to two or three with all the fed options.
Can't let the klingons have something unique?
im pretty sure starfleet doesnt want to pack larger ships like the saber or aquarius into the carriers because unlike the klingons, who believe BoP's are expendable when needed starfleet doesnt want their "self sustained" ships blowing up when the carrier blows up.
Birds of Prey have confirmed, on screen landing options. So that combined with a hanger deck capable of holding two of them (I personally view each hanger as holding three in the true ship size, but only deploying two at a time)... It works nicely. (Also personally view that the hangers could support the larger BoP's like the Hegh'tas.)
The federation only have the Intrepid class with confirmed on screen landing gear (I've heard of stuff about Defiant class ships having landing struts, but not really gotten confirmation on that. It's never shown on screen at least). That and with the BoP's... well the B'rel can be manned by a crew of five. I think the crew of the one in Search for Spock had a total of... around 15 crewmen. The Defiant runs off 50 or so.
It's easier to get the BoP ready for launch and combat when the crew size is fairly small :P.
But then again, if you can't see the value of spammable tractor beams, then I can understand your point of view a bit. However, what Feds have is just as powerful if not a bit better than what Klingons have.
Aditional, why dont you use some other shuttles for your carrier?
The Delta-Flyer for example can activate their Tachyon-beams to break through enemy shields.
Also, in most STF's, the tractor-Beams are pretty awesome to stop a whole Borg-fleet and in PvP they can be used to catch a fast enemy.
There are no real good shuttles, every shuttleability is good if you use them correctly. If you really need more dps with your shuttles, get the delta's an see the shields pop down in no-time.
Edit: The BoP's are not unfair.
1.: They are only 2 and got low shield and hull
2.: Most KVS-Captains prefer the To'Duj, because they deal more damage
I echo this statement. Not to mention the fact that Federation fighters/shuttles use phasers, resulting in a large increase in the occurrence of phaser effects in PvP. Then there's the tractor beams, tachyon beams, and other versatile stuff that Federation craft can do. . .while the To'Duj, Fer'jai, and Bird of Prey craft focus mostly on DPS, with Siphon Drones and shield repair drones for ship support.
For once, the Feddies need to learn how to work with what they've got, and find workarounds for any limitations. It's what we in the KDF have been doing for a long while now. . .and we can still kick Federation behind every now and then :P
Well, the Oddyssey tactical cruiser has an Aquarius escort that it carries around.
Think about it this way for two weapons slots you get:
Up to 8 tractor beam procs
Up to 8 volley of chroniton torpedoes with stacking procs(33% chance each torpedoe)
Up to 8 Phaser Banks with a 2.5% disable subsytem proc(20% total chance)
Oh, I'm pretty sure there were Feddies who liked the idea of getting carriers. I'd say it's the KDF enthusiasts who didn't like the idea, because it just takes something that's unique away from the KDF, further unbalancing the factions.
Oberths ?! REALLY? And equip them with Enhanced abandon ship ? :P
From a straight damage comparison, none of the generally available Fed hangar options can compete with the Fer'jai frigates.
I can't speak for the Caitian Stalkers, because I don't own them.
I own the Kar'fi however, and I can tell you that these are easily some of the strongest damage dealing pets available.
It's always interesting in these threads how every powerful/borderline overpowered option always becomes an area of "KDF uniqueness" that players feel they need to protect.
Considering how little things the Klingons have are you surprised they have a death grip on anything they think is an advantage to their side? Just after they release of another new fed ship they where told they aren't getting a new ship in the foreseeable future.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
Fair enough. Give the KDF a a Destroyer or Raptor w/ a hanger bay and pets that have tractor beams, then we can talk. In fact, just tack that bad boy hanger bay right onto my Garumba and take away the Siege Mode so I can get me a fleet version, or hell; just alter the Fleet version to have a hangar bay instead of Siege Mode.
Make a Klingon Character and play that.
Yes, and I'm sure if there were threads in the Fed forums requesting iron bikini's, huge shoulder pads and sausage shaped cruisers there would be an equal uproar about losing uniqueness. :rolleyes:
Sausage shaped cruisers? Such as the Marauder? KDF has been opposed to the request for a Star Cruiser to be given a Hanger to compete with the Marauder.
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I've also come to the conclusion that one of the main reasons the Carriers can't launch Frigates is because the MVAE comes with 2 Frigates during Separation mode. Protecting the MVAE is the reason you can't separate Saucer and Aquarius so it could be the reason there is no Launchable Fed Frigate.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
Aye, you want frigates then we should get tractor beam pets, plus would be sweet to have a raptor with a hanger bay!
put two in carrier and give her ability two fire either tranphasic cluster minetorps or tricobalt devices and make another klingon sjip of similar size that carries harpeng torpedoes and give them both a science ability tied into nav deflector. that way both get a good new pet to play with.
I don't want a frigate. I just want pets that have AP dual cannons, AP turrets, 2 Torpedo launchers including Tricobalts, Tricobalt Mines, CRF 2 & HYT 2 oh, and a special ability would be nice on top of all of that. Something like Aceton Beam.
Danube Runabouts have tractor beams...
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The federation has carriers at thier disposal, during the dominion war they were used in one of the DS9 episodes, however the carriers they used had no weapons except the fighters they launched and needed protection. In theory they could have given the option of having two more bays for the fed carrier to launch ships, no one would want to fly it with out any other weapons though.
The ships being used are thought out and for balancing a game with so many variables, they have done a good job. I would like to see more of the cruisers with at least one hanger, add another hanger to current carriers, let all the klingon ships either phase or cloak, let more fed ships cloak, let the carrier players switch to one of thier fighters and take control of the fighter for a little bit, expand the higher ships shield slots to allow for tripple shielding, and many more ideas however these ideas have a potential to upset game balance and in most player's hands they would destroy the fun of what they designed the ships for in the first place. This are not starfleet battles, but for most players the game gives a decent window into Star Trek and is one of the beter ship vs ship games out on the comp.