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captainconrad
Member Posts: 48 Arc User
I know the immediate response to this post and before you speak, allow me to do it for you.
"Typical American post! Because you assume everything in Starfleet is based off of American ideals, but it's not."
Got some news for you, it is. The Federation is based about 75% off of the society of the United States. Yes I know, it's a little more socialistic, but that was part of Roddenberry's dream was that with everyone having basic needs provided, what use was there for monetary gain? Since there is a galaxy to explore, who cares about money? Well I agree with this line of thought and I do think it's possible, but the ideals of freedom are very much an American ideal which is why I feel it would be appropriate for the STO community to celebrate the 4th of July. The Federation is about promoting peace and freedom throughout the galaxy. There is no slavery, there is no oppression and everyone is free to do what they want. Become an artist, a teacher, a poet, an engineer a Star Ship Captain, what ever you want to become stems from the ideals of a free society such a free society was founded on July 4th 1776. You may be thinking that the Federation isn't America in the future, but isn't it? Through America's history, we started promoting cultural diversity in ways most other countries never cared to do so. America thrives on different ethnic cultures and the exchange of ideas, principles that are key to the Federation's existence.
So all in all, I really hope that next year there is some sort of July 4th event be it a sale or a special mission or maybe even a fireworks show at Starfleet Academy. It is important to the Federation to remember history, and history says or will say that in Bozeman Montana, at a Nuclear Silo, the first warp ship is launched and that is why First Contact happens. No America, no Montana, no warp ship, no first contact, no Federation.
P.S.
If you're all angry about people complaining about language barriers, I got some interesting facts for you. First of all, the international language for air traffic is English and it's not optional. Yes even a German pilot leaving a German airport has to communicate to the control tower in English. And the Federation's language is also English.
"Typical American post! Because you assume everything in Starfleet is based off of American ideals, but it's not."
Got some news for you, it is. The Federation is based about 75% off of the society of the United States. Yes I know, it's a little more socialistic, but that was part of Roddenberry's dream was that with everyone having basic needs provided, what use was there for monetary gain? Since there is a galaxy to explore, who cares about money? Well I agree with this line of thought and I do think it's possible, but the ideals of freedom are very much an American ideal which is why I feel it would be appropriate for the STO community to celebrate the 4th of July. The Federation is about promoting peace and freedom throughout the galaxy. There is no slavery, there is no oppression and everyone is free to do what they want. Become an artist, a teacher, a poet, an engineer a Star Ship Captain, what ever you want to become stems from the ideals of a free society such a free society was founded on July 4th 1776. You may be thinking that the Federation isn't America in the future, but isn't it? Through America's history, we started promoting cultural diversity in ways most other countries never cared to do so. America thrives on different ethnic cultures and the exchange of ideas, principles that are key to the Federation's existence.
So all in all, I really hope that next year there is some sort of July 4th event be it a sale or a special mission or maybe even a fireworks show at Starfleet Academy. It is important to the Federation to remember history, and history says or will say that in Bozeman Montana, at a Nuclear Silo, the first warp ship is launched and that is why First Contact happens. No America, no Montana, no warp ship, no first contact, no Federation.
P.S.
If you're all angry about people complaining about language barriers, I got some interesting facts for you. First of all, the international language for air traffic is English and it's not optional. Yes even a German pilot leaving a German airport has to communicate to the control tower in English. And the Federation's language is also English.
Captain_Conrad
Join Date: October 2009
STO Start Date: March 2010
June 2012, assimilated into the PWE collective. Resistance is futile.
Join Date: October 2009
STO Start Date: March 2010
June 2012, assimilated into the PWE collective. Resistance is futile.
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The ship sale has been over for a few days now...
Oh sorry. I thought it was tied with that.
http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=576761
Yup, July 2nd.
edit: Although from the comments, other folks thought it was tied in as well to the holiday.
Join Date: October 2009
STO Start Date: March 2010
June 2012, assimilated into the PWE collective. Resistance is futile.
Tying in-game events specifically to any real world Holiday is a mistake. Sure a July 4th Event would be neat. Not everyone is American. Yes and Easter or Christmas event would be neat. Not everyone is Christian.
It comes down to, it is better to have a "winter" event or Spring "event". Tying an In Game event to any holiday based around any religious or national identity is a terrible idea.
If we get a July 4th event , we'd better get a Cinco De Mayo event, What about Chinese New year ? or any of the many other national Holidays celebrated by the other nations in which STO is played ??
Sure, you may love July 4th. It represents YOUR national identity.
Bully for you. I'm American too. Big Whoop.
I don't need an In Game celebration of my nations independence that would mean nothing to my fellow players from France, England, China, the Phillipines, Canada and many other places where today ... today is just the fourth day of July. A Wednesday.
Yay Wednesday.
First:
The UFP is composed of MANY worlds and I doubt most of them care about an old, out of date Terran holiday.
Second:
Given that Earth in Star Trek is an united planet with a single government, it makes little sense for them to celebrate a holiday like the 4th of July.
Third:
STO also has a KDF faction so events in the game usually have to include them in SOME form.
Fourth:
We usually do have a sale on holidays or close to them. This year we JUST had a ship sale that ended 2 days ago.
Fifth:
The USA doesn't hold a patent on the ideal of freedom. Last time I checked the USA is full of social oppression and inequities.
Sixth:
It could EASILY be argued that the Federation is modeled after the French since the UFP capitol is in France.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Captain_Picard_Day
I dunno about that, the Federations Government seems to be stable :P
First Contact Day= Independence Day in Trek, we celebrated it a while ago. We don't celebrate Andorian's Skii around their entire planet day or Vulcans achieve logic day (I think) or Canadian Thanksgiving, so I see no real reason to start celebrating the 4th as part of in-game event. Happy 4th though.
Yes!
The Federation uses Universal Translators. It only sounds English to you. For all you know, Picard was actually speaking French the whole time. In fact, since the invention and wide spread use of the universal translators, I doubt many people would bother to learn English if it's not their native tongue to begin with.
It was tied to the holiday. I celebrated Canada Day by buying an Atrox.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
You do realize english comes from England, right?
It's very narrow minded of you to think that the values you describe are soley American. It's quite offensive actually :rolleyes: There are a lot of other countries and cultures out there that are very enlightened and forward thinking.
As a Star Trek game, if would be more appropriate to celebrate Star Trek events (eg Founding of the Federation), or Seasonal celebrations (eg Winter Event).
Sorry, that's not american enough for you, is it?
None of the holidays are named after anything in particular but they last about a week and they give you the sense you are doing something to commemorate your holiday. They have other countries as well such as Chinese New Year. Mid September we have "Talk like a Pirate Day" and the foes drop grog that gets your character drunk.
Star Trek could have celebrated Founders Day, made up a Bajoran holiday, etc..
So yeah, I am surprised they don't have any holiday events since other MMO's obviously do. :P
What are you on about? We have game anniversary. we have First Contact Day, we have a winter holiday, heck we even have Friday the 13th (Another one of which is coming up next week I think).
http://www.stowiki.org/Events
This is actually wrong. In 1963 Gene Roddenberry had Universal Translators installed in every TV set built or sold. THAT is why it sounds like the Universe speaks English. Need proof.... Go to Japan. Capt. Picard and crew all speak Japanese...
The Federation has 2 Capitols. One in Paris, (Administrative, judiciary), and the one we are most familiar with in San Fransisco. (Legislative, military)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Federation_of_Planets
Fact is the winter event was created as nice compromise for those who wanted a Christmas/Chanukah/Kwanzaa holiday and had been requesting one for 1+ year. By having it be an unspecific holiday it also allowed for the inclusion of Klingons.
It's also a fact that for most people playing the game winter does take place at the same time of the year as the winter event. Unfortunately like every aspect of any MMO not everyone gets included or represented. There are always people who get left out or are left unhappy. All they can do is try to make the majority happy, which they did.
Member since December 2009
I still think it's pretty weak, it's the same thing with the KDF, the minority don't really matter, despite being paying customers.
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
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I bought the Oberth, not sure why though, I guess by impulse.:P
This, totally this.
Spock to Kirk, as Kirk is about to hug him.
Star Trek V: "The Final Frontier"
Well since the events are not for the characters, but for the (rl) people pay/playing the game...your game-world tie in is irrelevant (like a lot of the retoric in your post). Events are for the player base...when was the last time your toon bought you a ship from PWE?
Personally, in game event celebrations would be better, no one can argue with those and they aren't tied to any specific nationality i/m/h/o.
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