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Worshipping the Devs = Too much Cult of Personality

anthonyxmas1anthonyxmas1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2012 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Okay, some Devs are leaving. Some Devs communicate regularly to players and answer questions on the forums and in chat channels. Some Devs do a lot of hard work and put out great content.

But I see the players being too much fans (=fanatics) when it comes to the Devs, almost to the point of excessive worship and a Cult of Personality.

So what happens? The players get extremely upset and disappointed if a beloved Dev departs from Cryptic or from Star Trek Online. Such players also spell doom and gloom for the future of Star Trek Online.

That is unhealthy and unrealistic. The Devs are people (strange, but true!), with their own lives and plans for their future. Eventually, they unchain themselves from their workstations, and either go home to family and a life outside of STO, or go on to new projects and employment outside of STO.

The players should, as Shatner said on Saturday Night Live, "get a life". Stop thinking that STO is doomed because one or more Devs leave. Sure, be a bit disappointed.

But play the game, enjoy the game. And remember, it's only a game!

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  • suricattasuricatta Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It's also worth pointing out that the dev team apparently consists of over 40 developers, all of which I am sure are skilled in their own areas. Yes, we've lost a few devs that used the forusm alot, but over the last 2 years many devs have come and gone with no issues (just most didn't notice as they wern't that big on using the forums). So whilst its a shame we've lost a few devs, people should assume that just because they used the forums that they were 'the best devs', not saying they wern't skilled, but its a tad unfair on the rest of the dev team to assume they arn't that good or know what they are doing simply because they choose not to/or don't have time to, use the forums.
  • seannewboyseannewboy Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Actually its no different than how most people are in their own jobs. Your business/division may have over 200 people (or more). You only know so many of them, when Jim in accounting(whom you never met) leaves you dont really care. However when Susan from 3 cubicles over leaves your devastated, "this place will never be the same". So its not that the people expressing sorrow over the recent departures are not over the top. We may not know Steve the composer at cryptic but we do know Heretic, love or hate him. Its not that we dont have lives, we just like to acknowledge those we have come to appreciate (or despise).
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  • cormorancormoran Member Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    So we're allowed to be fans of some artists like actors or musicians, but we need to get a life if we are fans of other artists like game developers?

    I enjoy that people like these devs, it's something i'd like to see a lot more of in gaming. Too often we only know about the studio, or even just the publisher, hardly any actual developers get even close to the fandom that those in different fields of entertainment get. Unfortunately OP, the industry agrees with you and does it's part in crushing any game dev that gets popular enough to make their bosses sweat over salary.

    We need more video game dev rock stars.
  • thoroonthoroon Member Posts: 409 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Remember the good old 90s ...

    Sid Meier (I have an autographed Civilization at home, very proud of)
    Richard Garriott
    Peter Molyneux (he was quite a good one)

    It's part of human live to worship someone and/or something. Without it, mankind wouldn't even try to develop (small pun). Wether be it Religion, Musics, Writing, Artists, Comics etc.
    People "love" worshipping (both ways).

    Heck, some worship a Spaghetti Monster, dinosaurs worshipped a potato, it's in our genes!
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  • drudgydrudgy Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Is it so wrong to have a few Dev Fav's? Al Rivera is personally one of my favorites, however that's not to say the rest of the team isn't just a good? I really respect everyone on the STO team who takes a lot of their personal time to get on podcasts, develop new toys, and burn the midnight oil so to speak for us. The game is absolutely beautiful and I can't attribute it to any one Dev, but the leadership of Dan Stahl, and all the hard working people at Cryptic who bring me my own little piece of Star Trek History.
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  • anthonyxmas1anthonyxmas1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    cormoran wrote: »
    So we're allowed to be fans of some artists like actors or musicians, but we need to get a life if we are fans of other artists like game developers?

    No, I mean "get a life" if a player believes that the whole entire MMO is utterly doomed if their favorite Dev leaves. It's the excessive worship of a Dev which I find troubling.

    The MMO may change in small or big ways, but don't write off the MMO because a Dev leaves.

    As to fans of actors or musicians, if they change genres or retire, it's not the end of the acting or musical world, or even of a band or a TV series. Or even a franchise. The James Bond films and Dr. Who programs are still around, yet actors change in those regularly.

    (strange, both U.K. franchises ... no U.S. franchises with changing lead actors immediately come to mind :redface: )

    In other words, Star Trek Online LIVES! :biggrin:
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  • anthonyxmas1anthonyxmas1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    thoroon wrote: »
    ... dinosaurs worshipped a potato

    That's news to me! What's that mean?

    :eek:
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  • anthonyxmas1anthonyxmas1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    drudgy wrote: »
    Is it so wrong to have a few Dev Fav's?

    No, of course not. But as per my post and title of my post, it's the EXCESSIVE worship and resulting doom-and-gloom for STO that is an issue to me.

    And if an STO Dev turns into Jim Jones offering you poisoned Kool-Aid, or says kill yourself like Nichelle Nichols' brother did in the Heaven's Gate cult, you had better wise up and RUN! :wink:
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  • anthonyxmas1anthonyxmas1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Certainly don't worship them, but I do respect them for the (often overlooked) work that they put into making STO an enjoyable experience that I want to log into every day.


    Absolutely!
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  • anthonyxmas1anthonyxmas1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    anthonyxmas1 wrote: »
    That's news to me! What's that mean?

    :eek:

    Nevermind, it's a reference to some TV show Dinosaurs which I never watched LOL
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  • drudgydrudgy Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    anthonyxmas1 wrote: »

    And if an STO Dev turns into Jim Jones offering you poisoned Kool-Aid, or says kill yourself like Nichelle Nichols' brother did in the Heaven's Gate cult, you had better wise up and RUN! :wink:

    Lol.. I think i'd have to laugh if Dan Stahl came up to me with poisoned Kool-Aid...

    I agree it's not the end of the world though if Dev's leave a company. Sure it's sad, however the game will continue on. It's just like any other company, much like they were discussing on Priority One when Al was on.
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  • lilchibiclarililchibiclari Member Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    anthonyxmas1 wrote: »
    That's news to me! What's that mean?

    :eek:

    In an episode of the early-1990s TV series "Dinosaurs", Earl Sinclair (the bumbling not-too-bright Homer Simpson type) starts believing in a Potato God (not a god OF potatoes--a god who IS a potato) when he is looking for metaphysical meaning in his life and doesn't like the other answers that people offer. This spreads quickly, and the cult of The Great Potato (Hail the Potato!) becomes the official state religion after a few scenes. Earl's son Robbie questions this sudden uncritical uptake of the new religion, and quickly gets arrested and condemned to burn at the stake, until an apparent act of divine intervention saves him.
  • anthonyxmas1anthonyxmas1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    lilchibiclari wrote: »
    In an episode of the early-1990s TV series "Dinosaurs", Earl Sinclair (the bumbling not-too-bright Homer Simpson type) starts believing in a Potato God (not a god OF potatoes--a god who IS a potato) when he is looking for metaphysical meaning in his life and doesn't like the other answers that people offer. This spreads quickly, and the cult of The Great Potato (Hail the Potato!) becomes the official state religion after a few scenes. Earl's son Robbie questions this sudden uncritical uptake of the new religion, and quickly gets arrested and condemned to burn at the stake, until an apparent act of divine intervention saves him.

    Funny :smile:
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  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited June 2012
    BOW DOWN TO MY TACOCITY!
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  • dunnlangdunnlang Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    While I may not worship the Devs themselves, I do have to admit a certain piety where fanged tacos are concerned.
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  • dariusmajeredariusmajere Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    tacofangs wrote: »
    BOW DOWN TO MY TACOCITY!

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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I think a Range of Statues of the Devs should be available in the C store
    Said statue could then be placed in your ship so your crew can worship their creators
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  • voiceoftemprusvoiceoftemprus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    tacofangs wrote: »
    BOW DOWN TO MY TACOCITY!
    We needs some STO adventures of da taco. :( Sadly, seems SirHappy666 is offline.
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  • beezle23beezle23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    tacofangs wrote: »
    BOW DOWN TO MY TACOCITY!

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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Why isn't there a "worship the Devs " emote
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    tacofangs wrote: »
    BOW DOWN TO MY TACOCITY!

    You have your own city? ;):D:P
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  • tankalot42otankalot42o Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    tacofangs wrote: »
    BOW DOWN TO MY TACOCITY!

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  • jkstocbrjkstocbr Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    The Devs are ALL GODS !!
  • kimmerakimmera Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    tacofangs wrote: »
    BOW DOWN TO MY TACOCITY!

    <sings>

    Take me back to TACO CITY where he lettuce's green and the salsa's nifty
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    edited June 2012
    tacofangs wrote: »
    BOW DOWN TO MY TACOCITY!

    You realize that we Klingons are known to kill our gods, do you not?

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  • cptwilliam2cptwilliam2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I can somewhat understand the sentiment of the people that form that kind of attachment.

    If your experience with a game has been pretty terrible save for a dev and his systems and they announce he/she is leaving, it can feel like the only good thing about it is going away.
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  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    tacofangs wrote: »
    bow Down To My Tacocity!

    Yes Master Salsa Brains!

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  • rickpaaarickpaaa Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I think for most people, forum angst and attachment isn't as bound to any developer as much as it is an aversion to impermanence and uncertainty. This is really what the whole anti-PWE thing is about. Then again, who can resist a taco with fangs?
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  • beezle23beezle23 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Some of us appreciate actual honest interaction with employees of a company as opposed to being given the mushroom treatment by a mealy-mouthed designated "PR" person.
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  • kimmerakimmera Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    beezle23 wrote: »
    Some of us appreciate actual honest interaction with employees of a company as opposed to being given the mushroom treatment by a mealy-mouthed designated "PR" person.

    It doesn't help that many companies seem to have limited to no actual PR or marketing skills. Either there are a lot of incompetent marketing people out there or it is something companies have convinced themselves they don't need.

    And not singling out Cryptic or PWE there... it is a widespread issue.
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