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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited October 2012
    If you need more observers, ill voulenteer.
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I hope the newest drama doesn't hurt the new season.. :(
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  • therealsivartherealsivar Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well if you include me then there are 11 people in total signed up so far so I'm gonna extend the sign up deadline by a week and promote this a little more than I have been in the game itself.

    The new deadline for sign-ups is now 12 noon (eastern US) on October 27, and that will be the last time to sign up as I'll be starting the League regardless at that point.

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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited October 2012
    Im signing up for primary 1v1 league, and can join any team by request for 2v2 and 3v3.

    Character: Devoras
    Ship: Atrox Carrier.
    TZ: Europe

    Question though Sivar, will you ban danub carrier pets from the tourney due to TB abuse?
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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited October 2012
    Oi Sivar, you need to be more spesific on this one:

    - All consoles that can be used universally on any ship are prohibited from use without exception (their use will result in a forfeit by said player/team)


    I interpret this that all consoles are now prohibted as most consoles CAN be used on any ship. What i think you mean is that universal consoles are prohibited from use.

    Yes? Prey tell....
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  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    devorasx wrote: »
    Oi Sivar, you need to be more spesific on this one:

    - All consoles that can be used universally on any ship are prohibited from use without exception (their use will result in a forfeit by said player/team)


    I interpret this that all consoles are now prohibted as most consoles CAN be used on any ship. What i think you mean is that universal consoles are prohibited from use.

    Yes? Prey tell....

    From my understanding, you may not use any Console that is universal from the C-store ships. For example: No Tier 4 and lower C-store Consoles. This would also include No Lockbox Universal Consoles. (Fed No subspace jumper, KDF AMS, Fed Theta, KDF "Run" console, etc..)

    This may also include Lobi Crystal Store Consoles, but that is something more to question? :confused:

    And I also wonder what the thoughts are on the other Lobi Store Weapons and Gear you can buy..

    However, consoles that come on specific ships, and can only be used on Specific ships are ok from my understanding of the rule. (Cloak for Defiant/Galaxy-X, Tholian Web for Orb/Recluse, Multi-Vector Attack Mode for Advanced Escort, Wells/Destroyer Consoles, etc..)
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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited October 2012
    Still! Me scrambled, jammed and confused. Sivar, confirm or deny statement :D
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  • therealsivartherealsivar Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    devorasx wrote: »
    Still! Me scrambled, jammed and confused. Sivar, confirm or deny statement :D

    Web is correct in his interpretation;

    The consoles that can be used on any ship are off limits, however the consoles that are limited to the ships that you can use them on (such as the flagship consoles, or fed cloak, or veteran ship console, etc) are legal to use.
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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited October 2012
    Web is correct in his interpretation;

    The consoles that can be used on any ship are off limits, however the consoles that are limited to the ships that you can use them on (such as the flagship consoles, or fed cloak, or veteran ship console, etc) are legal to use.

    Allrighty....

    Well that sucks for my big whale of a ship who cant use subspace jump. What about the danube runabout pets for carriers, are you having second thoughts about them still being oki in matches?
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  • therealsivartherealsivar Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    devorasx wrote: »
    Allrighty....

    Well that sucks for my big whale of a ship who cant use subspace jump. What about the danube runabout pets for carriers, are you having second thoughts about them still being oki in matches?

    You can still change your ship if you wish man, you're clear to do so until your first match. As for the Danubes, they're legal, the only reason that the siphon pods are banned is because the best you can legitimately do against a siphon carrier in 1v1 is stalemate it and it makes for one long, frustrating, and generally not fun match....
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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited October 2012
    You can still change your ship if you wish man, you're clear to do so until your first match. As for the Danubes, they're legal, the only reason that the siphon pods are banned is because the best you can legitimately do against a siphon carrier in 1v1 is stalemate it and it makes for one long, frustrating, and generally not fun match....

    Pffft! Siphon drones are easy to tackle. Nothing plasma mines cant handle.
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  • interestedguyinterestedguy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I want to sign up

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  • drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    PLEASE SIGN me up.

    I keep missing these awesome events!!!

    Is there no way to send out a mail or something? Does it get announced in OPvP

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  • tick0tick0 Member Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I'm not sure if I'm signed up for this?

    If not:

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    Edit:

    Is the Temporal Backstep console allowed?

    Is Plasmonic Leech allowed?
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  • therealsivartherealsivar Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    tick0 wrote: »
    Is the Temporal Backstep console allowed?

    Is Plasmonic Leech allowed?

    The rules remain the same as they have been in the previous season, if you can use it on any ship then it is out, however if it restricted to a certain ship (or certain ships) then it is legal.
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  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 854 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I'll sign up!

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    I didn't see anything on which devices are or aren't allowed, so... anything goes?
  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited October 2012
    The rules remain the same as they have been in the previous season, if you can use it on any ship then it is out, however if it restricted to a certain ship (or certain ships) then it is legal.

    Hmm..

    Isnt the temporal 3 set item you get from the lobi store actually meant for the time ship (Wells) as pr that definition? If the interpretation is going to be that way, then the timeship is going to be OP.
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  • therealsivartherealsivar Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    PLEASE SIGN me up.

    I keep missing these awesome events!!!

    Is there no way to send out a mail or something? Does it get announced in OPvP

    @drkfrontiers

    Need to know what you're using and what time zone you're in bud :)
    felderburg wrote: »
    I'll sign up!

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    I didn't see anything on which devices are or aren't allowed, so... anything goes?

    While these Leagues are intended to be Space, if there is enough interest in Ground then I'd be happy to add in a schedule for it.

    However if you were intending to go for the Space section then I need to know the Ship(s) that you intend to use and the timezone that you're from for scheduling purposes :)
    devorasx wrote: »
    Hmm..

    Isnt the temporal 3 set item you get from the lobi store actually meant for the time ship (Wells) as pr that definition? If the interpretation is going to be that way, then the timeship is going to be OP.

    I'm not overly concerned about the temporal 3-set since loading on that many consoles has its disadvantages in a 1v1 setting, but in truth it's something that we'll really just have to see how it plays out before I can make a decision on it.
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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited October 2012
    I'm not overly concerned about the temporal 3-set since loading on that many consoles has its disadvantages in a 1v1 setting, but in truth it's something that we'll really just have to see how it plays out before I can make a decision on it.


    Well, ive seen what Maikai can do with that set in combination with whatever BOFF/DOFF setup he has, and its really really powerful. If the interpretation is going to be like that, then im rather relcutant to participate as people have already payed to win, where there is no complete fairness for all. Its like pitting FC Barcelona against LA Galaxys and you know LA Galaxys has NO chance whatsoever, cause Barca got the money to buy all the best trainers and players.

    If this tournament is going to be fun and fair, NO universal consoles are allowed. There is no pvp skill involved when someone has bought their way to victory then actually competing with the same achievable gear/skills.
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  • felderburgfelderburg Member Posts: 854 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    While these Leagues are intended to be Space, if there is enough interest in Ground then I'd be happy to add in a schedule for it.

    However if you were intending to go for the Space section then I need to know the Ship(s) that you intend to use and the timezone that you're from for scheduling purposes :)

    Just trying to bring a little attention to the ground pounders. If that happens, I'm in.

    As for space... I'm more likely to be a liability to any team I'm on, and to get trounced in 1v1. Also I haven't played SPvP in months, maybe a year.
  • therealsivartherealsivar Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    devorasx wrote: »
    Well, ive seen what Maikai can do with that set in combination with whatever BOFF/DOFF setup he has, and its really really powerful. If the interpretation is going to be like that, then im rather relcutant to participate as people have already payed to win, where there is no complete fairness for all. Its like pitting FC Barcelona against LA Galaxys and you know LA Galaxys has NO chance whatsoever, cause Barca got the money to buy all the best trainers and players.

    If this tournament is going to be fun and fair, NO universal consoles are allowed. There is no pvp skill involved when someone has bought their way to victory then actually competing with the same achievable gear/skills.

    I understand that it can be very powerful, however it is my hope that the setting of 1v1 will provide a partial correction since loading up 3 special consoles becomes detrimental to a ship's performance when unsupported. If I am incorrect and it provides an extreme advantage to those using the time-ships then I'll take steps to even it out.

    However, there is a reason that I am allowing some consoles and disallowing others, mainly because I cannot please everybody and I want to draw the most people possible. If I remove all consoles then I turn people away, if I allow all consoles then I turn people away, by allowing some and disallowing others I try to hit a compromise and get the most people in.
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  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited October 2012
    I understand that it can be very powerful, however it is my hope that the setting of 1v1 will provide a partial correction since loading up 3 special consoles becomes detrimental to a ship's performance when unsupported. If I am incorrect and it provides an extreme advantage to those using the time-ships then I'll take steps to even it out.

    However, there is a reason that I am allowing some consoles and disallowing others, mainly because I cannot please everybody and I want to draw the most people possible. If I remove all consoles then I turn people away, if I allow all consoles then I turn people away, by allowing some and disallowing others I try to hit a compromise and get the most people in.

    I agree you cant satisfy all, but IF players are going to shy off cause they cant use their pay to win consoles, then that says ALOT about them. And its rather sad that players are becoming this way, that the only way they can win is to pay themselves to victory. Some pvp skill that is.

    But fair enough try and see how it goes, but my gut feeling is already telling me that people who has spent the most money will win pr default.
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  • evilghost1026evilghost1026 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    is there still room in the tournament in the 1v1 bracket?

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  • paxottomanpaxottoman Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Or the 2v2 bracket? 3v3 Bracket?

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  • therealsivartherealsivar Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    paxottoman wrote: »
    Or the 2v2 bracket? 3v3 Bracket?

    All of the Leagues have unlimited space so there is room, there just haven't been any sign-ups for the 2v2/3v3 yet unfortunately, however I'm hopeful and just giving it time so if you want to sign up for either feel free :)
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  • drkfrontiersdrkfrontiers Member Posts: 2,477 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Need to know what you're using and what time zone you're in bud :)



    While these Leagues are intended to be Space, if there is enough interest in Ground then I'd be happy to add in a schedule for it.

    However if you were intending to go for the Space section then I need to know the Ship(s) that you intend to use and the timezone that you're from for scheduling purposes :)



    I'm not overly concerned about the temporal 3-set since loading on that many consoles has its disadvantages in a 1v1 setting, but in truth it's something that we'll really just have to see how it plays out before I can make a decision on it.

    Sorry

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  • therealsivartherealsivar Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Just a reminder to people, sign-ups will be closing tomorrow and the League will start on Sunday, so sign up! :)
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  • marctraiderzmarctraiderz Member Posts: 539 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    MT's Pony@marctraider

    1v1 signup.

    bye.
  • livinrtblivinrtb Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Add the Skull Squadron/Steel Talons to ur list
    will forward a list of names asap did not realize it was the 27th

    Great job the rulz seem fair and it is well laid good on ya man...8D

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  • interestedguyinterestedguy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    "All consoles that can be used universally on any ship are prohibited from use without exception (their use will result in a forfeit by said player/team)"

    Quotes from the general rules. Can somebody explain what this means?
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