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Tier 5 Conni :D

trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2013 in Federation Discussion
How about this, a Tier 5 Conni with either 6 or 8 (3-4 fore and 3-4 aft) weapon slots, hull strength between 27000 and 36000, turn rate of a science vessel and the BOFF/Console layout of the tier Excelsior? TRIBBLE tier 5+1, I would be happy with pure tier 5. Skins would be OG Conni, any of the tier 2 cruisers and the Exeter Class (of course if you own them). Cryptic, come on, its my birthday in a week, throw me a bone! :D
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  • askrayaskray Member Posts: 3,329 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    trhrangerxml wrote: »
    How about this, a Tier 5 Conni with either 6 or 8 (3-4 fore and 3-4 aft) weapon slots, hull strength between 27000 and 36000, turn rate of a science vessel and the BOFF/Console layout of the tier Excelsior? TRIBBLE tier 5+1, I would be happy with pure tier 5. Skins would be OG Conni, any of the tier 2 cruisers and the Exeter Class (of course if you own them). Cryptic, come on, its my birthday in a week, throw me a bone! :D
    Not this again... :rolleyes:

    The answer has been (for the past 2 years) and continues to be a no. Unless CBS decided to bow down finally and allow it (which I really really doubt)
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    They won't agree to a Tier 5 Consitution, but I doubt they would say no to a new ship thats the size of the Sovereign that looks similar to the Consitution.
  • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Had to bring it up, love the ship and to me it is Star Trek. Plus, being my birthday and all :p
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    So you want the J.J.Brams iPrize?
  • lazarus51166lazarus51166 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    They won't agree to a Tier 5 Consitution, but I doubt they would say no to a new ship thats the size of the Sovereign that looks similar to the Consitution

    That doesn't make sense. And trying to play semantics on the company you are licensing from isn't a good idea.
  • mkilczewskimkilczewski Member Posts: 284
    edited June 2012
    azurianstar wrote: »
    They won't agree to a Tier 5 Consitution, but I doubt they would say no to a new ship thats the size of the Sovereign that looks similar to the Consitution.

    They already have one. The Vesta class. It's just not done to scale in STO.
  • cormorancormoran Member Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    askray wrote: »
    Not this again... :rolleyes:

    The answer has been (for the past 2 years) and continues to be a no. Unless CBS decided to bow down finally and allow it (which I really really doubt)

    Considering all the other TRIBBLE CBS seems to allow I find this excuse more and more unbelieveable every day.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    centersolace wrote: »
    So you want the J.J.Brams iPrize?

    Are you crazy? That's the one ship I'd want least in STO.

    mkilczewski wrote: »
    They already have one. The Vesta class. It's just not done to scale in STO.

    The Vesta isn't anything even resembling a Consitution.
    lazarus51166 wrote: »
    That doesn't make sense. And trying to play semantics on the company you are licensing from isn't a good idea.

    Makes perfect sense, given CBS approved of the Vesper, the Excalibur, the Exeter, and of course the Utopia (NX-class). :rolleyes:
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I'd be happy if They'd make a T-4 version of the Exeter and let us use the Motion Picture skin. :smile:
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  • lomax6996lomax6996 Member Posts: 512 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It seems to me there was mention in a previous Dev post somewhere of the possibility of "skins". That would suit me fine. A "skin" that I could pop over my Excelsior retrofit or even an Armitage that would make it look like a Connie... with the Connie bridge pack... what would be the diff?
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Now that PWE has a firm grip on things, there will most likely be a Scalable Connie for the 1.000 day Vet rewards ship with no more of this "CBS said" BS.

    I recommend a skin that can go over any ship that way the PvPr's won't know what's hitting them.

    Also the option for either the TOS or TMP Connie.
  • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I'm on day 889 :D
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  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Before the days of seeing Federation officers flying Cat Carriers, D'koras and Galors I would have said that endgame connies were a very poor reflection of canon, but at this point, considering how ridiculous the ship situation has become, I no longer have any objection to T-5 connies. I just hope they are not a gambling reward.
  • retunred4goodretunred4good Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    logicalspock wrote: »
    Before the days of seeing Federation officers flying Cat Carriers, D'koras and Galors I would have said that endgame connies were a very poor reflection of canon, but at this point, considering how ridiculous the ship situation has become, I no longer have any objection to T-5 connies. I just hope they are not a gambling reward.

    Yeah, it's become pretty silly. The day a Connie can take a Galaxy will be a sad one. That's like saying a WW1 biplane could take an F15 Eagle. There is a such thing as progression; not everything can be refit.
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  • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    retunred4good wrote: »
    Yeah, it's become pretty silly. The day a Connie can take a Galaxy will be a sad one. That's like saying a WW1 biplane could take an F15 Eagle. There is a such thing as progression; not everything can be refit.

    You've obviously never seen Ring Raiders before :p
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  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,987 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    As a former Aircraft mechanic in the Air Force and National Guard I can positively state that a kid with a slingshot can take out an F15 eagle or any jet aircraft for that matter if the aircraft in question is approaching them.

    So if the WW1 Biplane were to fire it's guns at the approaching jet, instant FOD Kill!

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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,899 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Do we really need this? Feds get a new ship and another and another...and what do they do...they ask for more!

    As much as I think the Klinks can use some new ships I would rather have the feds handed a dozen new ships before that piece of mothballed nostalgia is put in as a tier 5.
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  • carbongripcarbongrip Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    You can only refit things so much, you can't have connie that can beat a 24th century galaxy class. So I could see a refit to tier 3 but not to tier 5.:eek:
  • tieberionetieberione Member Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Just give us the skin then.
    Like the OP, I grew up on the movies, and have a 1/350 model I built, and painted
    down to the pearl effects on the different sections.
    although, I'm not as hardcore as this guy, I wish my wife would let me have our dining
    room table to do what this guy did and build a connie/movie 6 foot replica!!

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  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    trhrangerxml wrote: »
    How about this, a Tier 5 Conni with either 6 or 8 (3-4 fore and 3-4 aft) weapon slots, hull strength between 27000 and 36000, turn rate of a science vessel and the BOFF/Console layout of the tier Excelsior? TRIBBLE tier 5+1, I would be happy with pure tier 5. Skins would be OG Conni, any of the tier 2 cruisers and the Exeter Class (of course if you own them). Cryptic, come on, its my birthday in a week, throw me a bone! :D

    This almost sounds like a "science hybrid" tactical cruiser. Possibly too OP...

    My thoughts for a Tier 5 Connie are to go "pure science" - 3-3 weapons loadout, base off the RSSV's loadout/boffs but go LtCmdr Tac instead of Lt/Ens Tac.

    Many people complain that the Connie really shouldn't be a cruiser alongside the Galaxys and Oddesseys. Fine. Also, Roddenberry wanted the TOS Enterprise to be more of an exploration (science) ship that just happened to fight fairly well. Hence the shift of a Connie-Retro from Cruiser to Science.

    That, and "when" the NX-Enterprise (Utopia class?) gets the tier 5 treatment, I'd slot it as an escort, the original hull is about the same size as Defiant, IIRC, and the NX could be slotted as a "science secondary" - 4 Tac 3 Sci 2 Eng consoles, Cmdr + Lt Cmdr Tac, Lt Cmdr Sci, Lt Eng. to reflect NX's original "exploration" role...

    This has an additional effect of giving both an "old school" (aka 22nd century) and "newer school" (aka 23rd century) Tier 5 representative in each class (all retrofits). NX and Defiant (Ent and DS9) escorts, Connie and Intrepid (TOS and Voy) science vessels, Excelsior and Galaxy (TMP and TNG) as cruisers.
    Detecting big-time "anti-old-school" bias here. NX? Lobi. TOS/TMP Connie? Super-promotion-box. (aka the two hardest ways to get ships) Excelsior & all 3 TNG "big hero" ships? C-Store. Please Equalize...

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  • alexindcobraalexindcobra Member Posts: 608
    edited June 2012
    I don't agree with the Constitution Class being a tier 5 ship. It just doesn't make since because it has a 5th of the hull strength of the modern cruisers and couldn't last in battle with them. I think this might be a better idea: make new missions where it requires using your smaller lower tier ships just like there were missions requiring shuttle use versus ship usage. I think people want to be able to use alot of those old ships, maybe even do battle with them.
  • hodgedad42hodgedad42 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Okay *sigh*. How bout this? Three servers. Main. TNG-era only, and TOS-era only. Ship skins, uniforms, all of it. Make limited sizes/classes for TNG/TOS servers. I for one might never leave the TOS era. (I'm old) LOL. WSY all?
  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I know how about a t5 constitution with the power of a escort and the lay out of 10fore 10aft with 30 console slots and a turn rate of 10000

    How about no move on . . . Next thread
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  • lazarus51166lazarus51166 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Okay *sigh*. How bout this? Three servers. Main. TNG-era only, and TOS-era only. Ship skins, uniforms, all of it. Make limited sizes/classes for TNG/TOS servers. I for one might never leave the TOS era. (I'm old) LOL. WSY all?

    No.

    and read the date of the thread - its over a year old
  • phyrexianherophyrexianhero Member Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Please close this zombie thread :)
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  • hodgedad42hodgedad42 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    :mad:
    lazarus51166 wrote: »
    No.

    and read the date of the thread - its over a year old

    How bout the Exeter with the same stats as Excelsior then? And how bout u drop the venom just a tad? And sorry, was doing a google search and saw thread, geez my bad...
  • hodgedad42hodgedad42 Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Sorry Lazarus that last post was intended for jams3s1701--my bad...
  • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    LOL, not to often that one of your old long dead threads gets revived :D
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