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Has it ever been explained why..

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited February 2012 in Klingon Discussion
...we don't have access to the full range of Gorn, Orion and Nausicaan ships? Some of the NPC-only ships are pretty sweet looking and it'd be nice to have them to bolster the somewhat slim ranks of Klingon ships.

Have we ever had a developer answer as to why they're not playable? Is it because of low-poly models or something along those lines?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    ramp4ge wrote: »
    ...we don't have access to the full range of Gorn, Orion and Nausicaan ships? Some of the NPC-only ships are pretty sweet looking and it'd be nice to have them to bolster the somewhat slim ranks of Klingon ships.

    Have we ever had a developer answer as to why they're not playable? Is it because of low-poly models or something along those lines?

    When I was originally talking to Captain Logan about adding some Nausicaan, Orion and Gorn ships, I showed him those and said, "It's totally fine if we just use these as-is."

    Captain Logan went, "Uh, hrm, yeah, dunno how I feel about using those..." And then went ahead and made ones he was happier with, namely, the current set of ships.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I have seen a discussion of this waaaay back. they said something along the lines of, a Player ship Object is much more Complex (behind the scenes) than NPC Ship object. It's technically not possible to open up some of the NPC ships, without some significant dev time to upgrade them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Well we currently have Commander, Captain, and General ships for Gorn, Orions, and Nausicaans. So now they just need to add them at Ensign to Lieutenant Commander, which wont happen until they make KDF content for those levels.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    ramp4ge wrote: »
    ...we don't have access to the full range of Gorn, Orion and Nausicaan ships? Some of the NPC-only ships are pretty sweet looking and it'd be nice to have them to bolster the somewhat slim ranks of Klingon ships.

    Have we ever had a developer answer as to why they're not playable? Is it because of low-poly models or something along those lines?

    technically because these ships are ugly yes.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    SupremeLegate wrote: »
    Well we currently have Commander, Captain, and General ships for Gorn, Orions, and Nausicaans. So now they just need to add them at Ensign to Lieutenant Commander, which wont happen until they make KDF content for those levels.

    With the level bump KDF side, should they waste resources on lower tiered ships?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    We initially asked for existing NPC ships to be added as SKIN options for existing KDF ships.

    KDF ships usually have not even the low level of customization that the FED Ships have. (we have some +1 skins that we can buy, bot those do not count as the free 3 options the FED ships have).

    I think we all agreed back then that any new KDF Ships should be FREE because the faction was just released incomplete.

    hrm... so we give you an easy way out. Existing art assets on top of existing Ship types as skins.
    Easy cheap, fast, reasonable enough to put a FREE sticker on it.



    What we got, after a lot of feature creep, were new awesome Ships, but at a premium Price C-Store ships.
    I even bought the Orion Ships i like them, it's only sad to pay good cash for those if you outlevel them in no time (i hate the new faster progression).
    and now my Orion Toon sits in that ugly Marauder Potato which doesn't even have the second window option... the yellow windows... ? well *ugh*.


    So we got something, but it wasn't what we asked for.
    And the fact that roleplaying an Orion / Gorn / Nausicaan comes at a premium pricetag, doesn't sit well with me either.
    It seems like roleplaying an Orion is something for the bored oldschool player that has done everything else.


    So maybe it's now time to go back to the initial request to add the existing NPC ships, as Ship SKINS, and as FREE options?

    Especially if the Tier 0 - 2 get unlocked those might be good to have.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Gypsy_Blade wrote:
    With the level bump KDF side, should they waste resources on lower tiered ships?

    I was referring to when they went back and filled in those lower levels, which they have said they are going to do.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    I don't know about anyone else but I'd love to see a playable Balaur.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2012
    Gypsy_Blade wrote:
    With the level bump KDF side, should they waste resources on lower tiered ships?

    I for one hate the level bump, and hope that the KDF eventually gets dropped back to normal level, and content filled in to suit. I think that was the original plan eventually, at least based upon what has been said in the past. There is really so much content that could be put here, they just need a writer to put it all together. Who knows, they might already have a number of concepts ready to go, they just need the time to do it. My fingers are certainly crossed.
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