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So I did my second rounds of Hard Deferi Invazion missions today, and on the last one I did I got my first Prosthetic drop!!!

I was very giddy at first about it, but that feeling quickly turned to disappointment when I found that its absolutely useless for fighting borg. :(

I mean Borg technology is kinda supposed to be the achilles heel of the Borg, and I thought part of the idea of the Ground Invasion was to get new cool rewards that would be helpful in our fight against the Borg.

But the rate of fire of the Prosthetics just ruins it.
I cannot even take out a single ordinary Borg Drone before I need to remodulate. :(

I think the devs needs to tweak these guns and either reduce the rate of fire and beef up the damage, or somehow tweak it so the Borg cannot adapt as quickly against them.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    I picked up two of these tonight: the maintenance one and the medical one. They're neat weapons, but terrible for fighting the borg with them. Other factions... they rock.

    I was disappointed because they're called "prosthetics" but they are just guns with a borg skin, they don't attach to your character's arm like an actual borg prosthetic would.

    Other than that, nice weapons for my borg BOffs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Perhaps they are supposed to be useful for PvP?

    EDIT: Logically, the borg themselves would carry weapons that worked best against THEIR enemies, i.e. us, rather than weapons that worked best against them, so I guess it makes sense.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    The best ground weapon against the borg will always will be a Tommy Gun.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    wrote:
    The best ground weapon against the borg will always will be a Tommy Gun.
    This!
    ...so when are we getting Tommy guns :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    The one thing I don't like about the Borg Prosthetic weapons is that they aren't wrist blasters or arm attachments like the Borg have. Instead they are somekind of monsterous minigun that looks like it came out of Cog than off a Borg Drone.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    maxiang wrote: »
    This!
    ...so when are we getting Tommy guns :D

    They are the next grab bag item. So start saving your money now. :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    The best ground weapon against the borg will always will be a Tommy Gun.

    What she said.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    What she said.

    We are so advanced that a 500 year old gun is a better weapon than what we can make.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    We are so advanced that a 500 year old gun is a better weapon than what we can make.

    Yup. Just think about it. Trek in all of its glory is light based when it comes to weaponry and defense. Phasor and Deflector shields. So ships and people aren't actually protected from "low tech" things like a bullet.

    Besides. Today in the real world we are really advanced but that doesn't stop us from dying when someone pokes us with a sharp stick. :) And spears are ancient of ancient tech.

    Lastly I leave you with Sir Issac Newton:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpgxry542M


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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Yup. Just think about it. Trek in all of its glory is light based when it comes to weaponry and defense. Phasor and Deflector shields. So ships and people aren't actually protected from "low tech" things like a bullet.

    Besides. Today in the real world we are really advanced but that doesn't stop us from dying when someone pokes us with a sharp stick. :) And spears are ancient of ancient tech.

    Lastly I leave you with Sir Issac Newton:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpgxry542M

    HAHAHAHA!!!!! I love it. That has to be one of the greatest quotes from any media, at all, ever!

    "Sir Issac Newton is the baddest *son of a gun* [edited] in space..."
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    The best ground weapon against the borg will always will be a Tommy Gun.

    Well, for now, at least, it's the TR-116. But most players don't have it and can't get it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Quark_Kent wrote: »
    Well, for now, at least, it's the TR-116. But most players don't have it and can't get it.

    Ah..the TR-116. I would love to have one.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    TR-116 isnt all its cracked up to be.
    Its got very low damage output and shields reduce the damage by 50%,
    Even proper melee weapons deal better damage, and good use of energy weapons easily bring down targets faster.
    This goes double if you have an STF set with the built in instant-remodulator.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    I too love to have a TR, I've seen them use to take down the Bosses in the Elite STFs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    We are so advanced that a 500 year old gun is a better weapon than what we can make.

    First , I thank this captain for this post that gives me the excuse to rant on this particular point,

    The point , so called " Standard Issue Borg Weapons "

    These weapons have the " benifit " of the " Borg " proc , as it is called .

    This proc or modifier is 15 kinetic damage to Borg NPC 's.

    15 damage

    only 15

    This weapon modifier is More Danagerous To The User Than The Borg .

    I Highly Doubt That This WILL EVER Change .

    Any officer involved in prosecuting combat operations against the Borg is Highly Adviased to use the folowing guidlines when sellecting weapons for ground combat operations against the Borg .

    The use of the Highest Mk # weapons possiblefor your current rank .

    The modifiers [Dmg] in mutiples , {KB3] is sometimes usefull , [Dot 3] is not

    The rareity of the weapon give increased dmg to the weapon , therfore Mk XII Rare weapons w/ [Dmg] are the most usefull .

    Ther have been reports from the front of the over use of the " Over Charged Plasma Sniper Rfle " and of that rifles Failure to produce usefull effect against the Borg.

    These reports have been verified as Accurate.

    Use of the Assault weapon class called BLAST is Highly Recommended.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    The [Borg] modifier is quite useful, actually. Bear in mind that it is 15 extra damage per shot/damage tick, and this damage is never reduced by borg adaption. The MACO and Omega ground weapons that are so "terrible" because they do three shot bursts for primary fire will still do 48 damage per shot, even when the borg have fully adapted to that weapon type.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    It makes sense why a Borg Weapon would not be that effective against Borg. Although, I would prefer a different name than Borg Prosthetic for these weapons since people expect to use them as prosthetics or a makeshift weapon that uses a Borg's arm as the main component. Even using the borg prosthetic as a bat would make more sense. That would be a fun weapon to use if it ever happened. Slapping Borg with a Borg's arm.

    On another note, we have Borg Space Sets so where are the Borg Ground sets?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    The [Borg] modifier is quite useful, actually. Bear in mind that it is 15 extra damage per shot/damage tick, and this damage is never reduced by borg adaption. The MACO and Omega ground weapons that are so "terrible" because they do three shot bursts for primary fire will still do 48 damage per shot, even when the borg have fully adapted to that weapon type.

    Not After Addaptation, when such a " benifit " would be of most use.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    ProfHat wrote:
    Not After Addaptation, when such a " benifit " would be of most use.
    You are mistaken, test it out on any borg mob. You'll see the green ADAPTED text, along with a yellow 1 and a yellow 15 per shot.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    starkaos wrote: »
    On another note, we have Borg Space Sets so where are the Borg Ground sets?
    Deep Space Nine?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    Jarnin wrote: »
    Deep Space Nine?
    I think he means the Assimilated Borg set.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    I think he means the Assimilated Borg set.

    Correct. We already have 6 space sets and 3 ground sets so it is only logical to have a craftable ground set, a ground set from doing an FE and a Borg ground set that costs 5 EDC for each piece. The borg ground set should have a Borg style that fits the Borg hybrid look that are ships get. Makes too much sense for liberated borg captains to wear Borg looking armor and piloting a borg looking ship. The MACO set doesn't fit the Borg style and the Omega Force set looks too much like the Merc costume IMO. Although I don't know what to think about Tron characters in STO with the Aegis Ground Set.

    Not everyone can do 100 STFs to get their ground sets and we have 3 Space Sets that don't have a corresponding Ground Set that would be perfect for casual players.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    You are mistaken, test it out on any borg mob. You'll see the green ADAPTED text, along with a yellow 1 and a yellow 15 per shot.

    When before the " Addaptation " acured you were doing Conciderably More in the way of damage .

    Case in point , a Blast Assualt Mk XI [very rare] tipicaly does 125 primary and 250 secondary w/blast AoE .

    After "Adaptation" ,you do the aforementioned 1 and 15 , so very underwelming
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2011
    starkaos wrote: »
    Correct. We already have 6 space sets and 3 ground sets so it is only logical to have a craftable ground set, a ground set from doing an FE and a Borg ground set that costs 5 EDC for each piece. The borg ground set should have a Borg style that fits the Borg hybrid look that are ships get. Makes too much sense for liberated borg captains to wear Borg looking armor and piloting a borg looking ship. The MACO set doesn't fit the Borg style and the Omega Force set looks too much like the Merc costume IMO. Although I don't know what to think about Tron characters in STO with the Aegis Ground Set.

    Not everyone can do 100 STFs to get their ground sets and we have 3 Space Sets that don't have a corresponding Ground Set that would be perfect for casual players.

    This. I've been wanting a Borg ground set for my Liberated Borg characters ever since the Borg Space set came out :D
  • mattcan1mattcan1 Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The one thing I don't like about the Borg Prosthetic weapons is that they aren't wrist blasters or arm attachments like the Borg have. Instead they are somekind of monsterous minigun that looks like it came out of Cog than off a Borg Drone.

    These arms are supposed to be salvaged, not installed, how many humans are going to chop off a good arm to use a Borg armature. It makes more since to make them weapons, add a handle and hold them, its likely they only would work as part of drone anyway without some modifications. Making them conventional weapon keeps there abilities, and allows you two switch and keep your arm...

    not surprisingly they are bulky now, if they replaced an arm they were simpler and directly installed then, now they need an interface and to stick out more like a conventional gun.

    Would like access to more Borg hardware...
  • admiraljt#1430 admiraljt Member Posts: 452 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Necros are bad. Mkay?
  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    mattcan1 wrote: »
    These arms are supposed to be salvaged, not installed, how many humans are going to chop off a good arm to use a Borg armature. It makes more since to make them weapons, add a handle and hold them, its likely they only would work as part of drone anyway without some modifications. Making them conventional weapon keeps there abilities, and allows you two switch and keep your arm...

    not surprisingly they are bulky now, if they replaced an arm they were simpler and directly installed then, now they need an interface and to stick out more like a conventional gun.

    Would like access to more Borg hardware...

    Borg Prosthetics implies that we are replacing a limb with Borg technology. The problem is the name of the weapons not the weapon itself. Also, this thread needs to be destroyed with plasma.


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