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Our new Variants

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited September 2011 in Klingon Discussion
Captain Logan started to post some pictures of our new variants on twitter, Vor'cha for now:

http://twitpic.com/6b2z0g
http://twitpic.com/6bk0pc

My comment on this variant:

Love the mission pod, will definitely use that part on mine.
Like the neck, wish i could have that independent from the rest.
So la la on the head, not a fan of the downward block part. Maybe make the hammerhead more swept wing style and drop the underbelly block thingy. Makes for a more aggressive look i think.
Nacelle pylons, don't like, doesn't fits the more flat design of the Vor'Cha.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I like the mission pod as well; not sure about the forward section, but that's point of options....you can change them :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    i like it but im not going to say much until its finished, but its shaping up well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    My question which is probally stupid but when you are talking about variants in these pictures and in the engineering reports and ask cryptic. Are any of these new variants going to be higher rank in the T5 category going to be new ships or just variants of the skins themselves. Never can get a straight answer about that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Cryptic hasn't said yet.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Looks pretty cool, I just want the tier 5 D7 refits already, love that ship
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I'd guess that Vor'cha is going to be a new skin and the K'tinga... excelsior-like refit?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    This looks AMAZING! woot!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Hmm... I'm just trying to picture the new Vor'cha variant kitbashed with some Tor'Kaht parts.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Looks pretty epic so far:

    http://twitter.com/#!/CapnLogan/status/108395051087970304/photo/1/large

    Just the pylons for the nacelles are sorta ugly and not really fitting i think.
    The nacelles could be more pointy, sharper. they curves go somewhat against the rest of the ships design.
    Maybe a little shorter and the attachment point moved further to the back of the nacelles, would look more aggressive.

    And please no bridge, it the ships lines are so nice right now i fear a bridge would ruin the flow.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I never liked the hammer-head design for the head...I sure hope there is an option to take and change that with another head.... Yeah, the rest looks nice, but to tell you the truth I don't like the head of the ship...can't really call it a saucer....heheheheheh... that'd be all sorts of wrong. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Is it just me or does the head of the ship look like the head of a praying mantis?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Dracosblood wrote: »
    Is it just me or does the head of the ship look like the head of a praying mantis?

    It just looks wrong...but now that you mention it, yeah it looks a bit buggy...heheheheheh :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    LittleTerribleRomulan wrote:
    I never liked the hammer-head design for the head...I sure hope there is an option to take and change that with another head.... Yeah, the rest looks nice, but to tell you the truth I don't like the head of the ship...can't really call it a saucer....heheheheheh... that'd be all sorts of wrong. :D

    I'm sure that if this is for the Vor"cha model it will have interchangeable parts with that & the newer Tor'kaht variant.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I like it. It may look a bit too sleek compared to other Klingon designs, but in principle I like both the forward section as well as the main body.

    That said, I still wouldn't agree about prioritizing the continuous invention of new variant after variant when there's so many NPC Gorn/Orion/Nausicaan designs already in the game that could be reworked into player ships just as well.

    Imho, the Klingons aren't like Starfleet that they churn out an entirely new class of ship every single year - we've seen the BoP- and the D7 shapes in use for over a hundred years in the timeline; canonically, the KDF has but half a dozen different ships (with various sub-classes that are not optically different from each other). This characteristic could have been preserved, whilst still giving the KDF faction new ships in the form of vessels from the other species that are part of this alliance.

    Just something to think about, maybe. I don't want to appear ungrateful for this kind of attention, and I'm sure there are lots of players who will use this variant.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Idali wrote:
    http://twitter.com/#!/CapnLogan/status/108395051087970304/photo/1/large

    Looking good. But as for the "hammerhead" bow, what if if the side bits were curved/pointed forwards so they would look like horns... :D

    Edit: Oh found this: http://p.twimg.com/AYJA-mJCEAAsGyH.jpg:large - Nice :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I really like the design, except for the Hammerhead. Everytime I see it, I think TOR Republic Cruiser than a Klingon Cruiser. But in a way it's a nice omage of the Fek'lhr cruiser coupled with the Birok.

    Also, I can't help but notice that the body has a nice resemblance to my Qoj'Chu, which makes me happy that something of mine made it into STO.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I think it looked better, sleeker without the bridge module. Who puts a bridge anyway up where everyone can shot right it?
    That is fed design idiocity :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Idali wrote:
    I think it looked better, sleeker without the bridge module. Who puts a bridge anyway up where everyone can shot right it?
    That is fed design idiocity :)

    Exactly...and for that reason it ought to be located in the core of the ship...lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Zeuxidemus wrote:
    My question which is probally stupid but when you are talking about variants in these pictures and in the engineering reports and ask cryptic. Are any of these new variants going to be higher rank in the T5 category going to be new ships or just variants of the skins themselves. Never can get a straight answer about that.
    Idali wrote:
    Cryptic hasn't said yet.

    I'm pretty sure CapnLogan has stated that he wasn't makin ANY variants for t5.
    CapnLogan wrote:
    doh! yeah I won't be doing any variants for current T5 ships.

    Which really bums me out personally.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Idali wrote:
    I think it looked better, sleeker without the bridge module. Who puts a bridge anyway up where everyone can shot right it?
    That is fed design idiocity :)

    Has anyone said, it's a bridge? To me that lioks almist like a support ship docked.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Timelord_Victorious wrote:
    Has anyone said, it's a bridge? To me that lioks almist like a support ship docked.

    Well it is logical from those two pics:

    http://twitter.com/#!/CapnLogan/status/108395051087970304/photo/1/large

    http://twitter.com/#!/CapnLogan/status/108720785140617216/photo/1/large
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Idali wrote:
    Well it is logical from those two pics:

    http://twitter.com/#!/CapnLogan/status/108395051087970304/photo/1/large

    http://twitter.com/#!/CapnLogan/status/108720785140617216/photo/1/large

    Hmm....not bad at all, thanks for posting :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Sivar wrote: »
    Hmm....not bad at all, thanks for posting :)

    Yeah, I have seen these pictures before but I want to see them skinned when they get them done ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    LittleTerribleRomulan wrote:
    Yeah, I have seen these pictures before but I want to see them skinned when they get them done ;)

    The second one has a skin.....sorta.......more like a rough draft of one :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Idali wrote:
    I think it looked better, sleeker without the bridge module. Who puts a bridge anyway up where everyone can shot right it?
    That is fed design idiocity :)
    To be fair, bridges like that have been on Klingon cruisers since the very first D7, and the Vor'cha after it. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Love the new ship model. Something new.

    Can't wait to see more from Captain L. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited September 2011
    Timelord_Victorious wrote:
    Has anyone said, it's a bridge? To me that lioks almist like a support ship docked.
    Valias wrote:
    To be fair, bridges like that have been on Klingon cruisers since the very first D7, and the Vor'cha after it. :D

    As Valias says, it fits previous Klingon ships for that to be a bridge, and it also fits the ideology of a Klingon that the Bridge be very visible and near the front of the ship. It isn't very honourable for the Captain to be cowering in the bowls of the ship.

    As for it looking like a support ship - on the original Negh'Var plans, the triangular "mission pod" at the top-rear of the ship is said to be detachable scout ship, so its a fair assumption that the similar object on both the Vor'Cha and now this new variant are also detachable scout ships.
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