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Arms race

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited August 2011 in Klingon Discussion
Hey guys,
Seems like that the KDF aren’t in the arms race yet. Are the kdf ever going to get any uber consoles that compare to the ones feds have been getting on their c-store ships? What gives?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    The KDF don't need the so called uber-consoles... They are about brute force...

    Example: Even their most elaborate game, is banging heads together.... and thats not even battle.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    I don't know for sure, but I feel I've read somewhere that in the next batch of ships being released (many of which are planned to have console special abilities), the KDF actually has a larger proportion. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    So the KDF may actually win this next phase of the 'arms race' :P

    Also, all consoles will be available to both factions eventually (Duty officer system, anyone?)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Dan_Trainor wrote:
    I don't know for sure, but I feel I've read somewhere that in the next batch of ships being released (many of which are planned to have console special abilities), the KDF actually has a larger proportion. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    So the KDF may actually win this next phase of the 'arms race' :P

    Also, all consoles will be available to both factions eventually (Duty officer system, anyone?)

    :eek:
    I would very much like to see a link for the post where you read this...it would make me happy.
    I've seen a post about some new skins for existing ships, but nothing about new ships, nor KDF getting any special consoles, nor that all consoles will be available for both sides.
    Please show me where you read a Dev stating that.
    Player-made rumor threads are just not beliveable.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    anazonda wrote: »
    The KDF don't need the so called uber-consoles... They are about brute force...

    Example: Even their most elaborate game, is banging heads together.... and thats not even battle.

    Yeah ... but aren't those Feds sporting a specialized torpedo that we in the KDF developed?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    anazonda wrote: »
    The KDF don't need the so called uber-consoles... They are about brute force...

    Example: Even their most elaborate game, is banging heads together.... and thats not even battle.

    Ok thanks for that useless input.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Dan_Trainor wrote:
    I don't know for sure, but I feel I've read somewhere that in the next batch of ships being released (many of which are planned to have console special abilities), the KDF actually has a larger proportion. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    So the KDF may actually win this next phase of the 'arms race' :P

    Also, all consoles will be available to both factions eventually (Duty officer system, anyone?)

    Where did you see that all the consoles will be available to both factions? I highly doubt that. If they did do this it's a lazy fix, why not create different ones for kdf? Maybe that makes too much sense.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    KBFLordKrueg wrote: »
    :eek:
    I would very much like to see a link for the post where you read this...it would make me happy.
    I've seen a post about some new skins for existing ships, but nothing about new ships, nor KDF getting any special consoles, nor that all consoles will be available for both sides.
    Please show me where you read a Dev stating that.
    Player-made rumor threads are just not beliveable.

    thegoog wrote:
    Where did you see that all the consoles will be available to both factions? I highly doubt that. If they did do this it's a lazy fix, why not create different ones for kdf? Maybe that makes too much sense.

    After much memory bank trawling.... Enjoy the rhode island feedback thread on the tribble forums section:

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=3684801&postcount=17

    and

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=3684844&postcount=26
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    CaptLogan talked actually about ship skins the KDF should get sometime in the future. They never said when we will get them in the near future of IF they will be free at all. From previous experience I expect them that the ships will be delayed by the powers that rule again and in favour for more Federation only stuff. If we get them earlier I expect them that we will have to pay in C-Store for them an exorbitant fee.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    thegoog wrote:
    Ok thanks for that useless input.

    Anytime...

    So maybe some sort of enhanced armor?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Dan_Trainor wrote:
    After much memory bank trawling.... Enjoy the rhode island feedback thread on the tribble forums section:

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=3684801&postcount=17

    and

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=3684844&postcount=26

    Well, well...how interesting...
    Now, to see if those quotes will be added the "The History of the Klingon Empire according to Cryptic" or if they will become reality anytime soon. :D
    It would sure be nice...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Maybe a new historical KDF thread should be created.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    The posts in the links imply that the new KDF ships will be also C-Store onlys :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Hawks wrote: »
    The posts in the links imply that the new KDF ships will be also C-Store onlys :(
    We are also planning on introducing mechanisms to acquire these items via in game means.

    No guarantee, I know, given the track record. But it does look like at least initially they will all be c-store only.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Dan_Trainor wrote:
    I don't know for sure, but I feel I've read somewhere that in the next batch of ships being released (many of which are planned to have console special abilities), the KDF actually has a larger proportion. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    So the KDF may actually win this next phase of the 'arms race' :P

    Also, all consoles will be available to both factions eventually (Duty officer system, anyone?)

    Thanks Dan! it's refreshing to know that they are making some. So used to not having any shiny new toys for my ship. Hopefully these new consoles don't de-cloak my b'rel :confused:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Yes, most consoles on both sides will eventually be acquireable by the opposite faction. The exact mechanics of this are still being worked out. Similarly, we are working on a mechanic to make it possible to acquire these consoles in game.

    The current plan includes about fifteen or so KDF consoles and ships in this batch, although the timing of when these come out may be staggered, and everything about this is subject to change based on a lot of factors. This is, in fact, somewhat more than the number of Federation consoles and ships currently planned for this set.

    The KDF consoles are in the process of being built and artified (what, that's not a word?) They are still undergoing a lot of iteration, and we may very well pull some, add some, modify some, shift some around depending on a lot of different factors.

    Some of the ones currently in the pipeline for the KDF include:
    • Aceton Assimilator
    • Vandal Siphon Probe
    • Barrier Field
    • Graviton Flux Wave
    • Isometric Charge
    • Vent Theta Radiation
    • Raiding Party Boarding Shuttles

    All of this is subject to change, but all of the above are at some level of completion and testing internally. The above is definitely not the complete list, but we're still working on names for some of them (such as a sort of supertorpedo).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    A super torpedo in a console slot? Shouldn't weapons be kept in weapon slots?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Ummm "Vent Theta Radiation" does not sound remotely Klingon.
    In fact that sounds more like the Malon and their Theta Radiation garbage haulers.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Alexraptor wrote: »
    Ummm "Vent Theta Radiation" does not sound remotely Klingon.
    In fact that sounds more like the Malon and their Theta Radiation garbage haulers.

    Maybe Cryptic are setting up the appearance of a Malon faction in the game? After all, when we last saw them they were still looking for "new places to dump their garbage". What better place, than the Alpha Quadrant, and on the pesky Federation's doorstep? :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Remember that the KDF is not just Klingons. Some of these are intended to be acquired on Gorn, Nausicaan and Orion ships.

    As for consoles, a better term would be item - some of these may actually be devices or weapons.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Any word on honor cloaks and fingerless gloves?... I want the wacky hair look of ST:5 :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Heretic wrote:
    Remember that the KDF is not just Klingons. Some of these are intended to be acquired on Gorn, Nausicaan and Orion ships.

    As for consoles, a better term would be item - some of these may actually be devices or weapons.

    Consoles have never meant actual consoles. Ablative Hull Armor doesn't sound like some type of computer.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    According to Aug Ask Cryptic KDF gets pengs :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    According to the latest hotfix, your wish has been granted...

    "•Klingon players may now craft the Rare Hargh'Peng Torpedo launchers at odd marks. Fed players must still play the Doomsday machine episode to "obtain" the Hargh'Peng."

    And the race begins...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Heretic wrote:
    Remember that the KDF is not just Klingons. Some of these are intended to be acquired on Gorn, Nausicaan and Orion ships.

    As for consoles, a better term would be item - some of these may actually be devices or weapons.

    Waiiiittt..... does this mean we'll be getting new non-Klingon player ships?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Ok, that definitly sounds like we will have to pay for the new ships with consoles in C-Store or grind emblems :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Can I also suggest "siege cannon" for the Negh'var and/or Vor'cha? We've both seen them unload some serious firepower in one shot like in Way of the Warrior and Redemption.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Hawks wrote: »
    Ok, that definitly sounds like we will have to pay for the new ships with consoles in C-Store or grind emblems :(

    I would be very surprised if the new ships/skins are anything but in the C-store. Cryptics does this for the money, not for fun. Klingons are frothing at the mouth for new ships and no matter how many may complain about it, many more will spend the money for those new ships when they come.
    It's just a game to us, but, it's how they feed their families....
    I may not care for it, but that's the reality of it. Accept it. I have.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    The get heck of enough money out of this game, giving the KDF a bit of goodwill would show their commitment to the faction putting anything new KDF in C-Store is a great negativ sign.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    Heretic wrote:
    Yes, most consoles on both sides will eventually be acquireable by the opposite faction. The exact mechanics of this are still being worked out. Similarly, we are working on a mechanic to make it possible to acquire these consoles in game.

    The current plan includes about fifteen or so KDF consoles and ships in this batch, although the timing of when these come out may be staggered, and everything about this is subject to change based on a lot of factors. This is, in fact, somewhat more than the number of Federation consoles and ships currently planned for this set.

    The KDF consoles are in the process of being built and artified (what, that's not a word?) They are still undergoing a lot of iteration, and we may very well pull some, add some, modify some, shift some around depending on a lot of different factors.

    Some of the ones currently in the pipeline for the KDF include:
    • Aceton Assimilator
    • Vandal Siphon Probe
    • Barrier Field
    • Graviton Flux Wave
    • Isometric Charge
    • Vent Theta Radiation
    • Raiding Party Boarding Shuttles

    All of this is subject to change, but all of the above are at some level of completion and testing internally. The above is definitely not the complete list, but we're still working on names for some of them (such as a sort of supertorpedo).

    So the KDF not only get better ships, but more consoles as well? beautiful. how about balanced factions for a change?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2011
    KBFLordKrueg wrote: »
    I would be very surprised if the new ships/skins are anything but in the C-store. Cryptics does this for the money, not for fun. Klingons are frothing at the mouth for new ships and no matter how many may complain about it, many more will spend the money for those new ships when they come.
    It's just a game to us, but, it's how they feed their families....
    I may not care for it, but that's the reality of it. Accept it. I have.

    I would imagine that the new ships would follow in the footsteps of the Rhode Island, in that initially it will be c-store only. 'Eventually' they will be available through in-game means. [STOKED Interview]

    In my view, the in game method should be finalised before c-store release in order not to **** off paying subscribers... ...

    With any luck, once the RI gets released withing a short space of time the in game method will be ready to go and the ammount of time that the rest of the ships spend as exclusively c-store will be shorter (really though... not gonna happen)
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