are they enough klingons playing? i really would like to help bolster the numbers by playing one but i just feel they are so dull and tedious to level that it deters me
are they enough klingons playing? i really would like to help bolster the numbers by playing one but i just feel they are so dull and tedious to level that it deters me
Depends on what you consider enough. Last time there was any discussion, Dstahl mentioned that 18% of the playerbase has played a Klingon. Take that for what you will.
I've seen a lot of new Klingons lately. I've seen some of the older Klingons leave. In general, the Klingon community is welcoming of anyone that wants to try the faction out. Most Klingon players would like to see more.
That said, if you are finding the levelling aspect to tedious and dull, don't torture yourself. Only play in a way that you find fun. It is a game after all.
interesting... I do have a 51 science klink but last time i played it (right have VA patch came out) there was no other high level klinks to do anything with in the late game.
I notice lots say they want to try a Klingon, but after they have to repeat the same missions over and over most either go play Fed (if the are really a Trek fan) or go play something else entirely.
But, it's probably not worth it to make more Klingon content because there's only (insert low percentage) of players who want to play Klingon....:(
See how that works...? It's like they just don't want Klingon players....
Depends on what you consider enough. Last time there was any discussion, Dstahl mentioned that 18% of the playerbase has played a Klingon. Take that for what you will.
Personally, I kind of find that number (as well as the previous '12% #) a little off. 18% have played is not the same as 'are currently playing as main characters.' I have to have 2 of my nearest dearest friends in the game switch from their Fed toons to get a Ground PvP (FvK, Lt Gen/VA) to pop any given day of the week-or else it just doesn't happen.
I've seen a lot of new Klingons lately. I've seen some of the older Klingons leave. In general, the Klingon community is welcoming of anyone that wants to try the faction out. Most Klingon players would like to see more.
I've seen a lot of new Klinks too-all lower levels. I've seen a LOT of KDF-as-mains-players leave. I myself had to take a 6month hiatus, when I came back, my fleet had left the game there's significantly fewer Lt Gen's than there were 6 months ago. Most? EVERY KDF player would LOVE to see more Klinks. Join the party! we has Orion wemenz
I have 4 Fed Va's and 2 KDF LG's. I will most likely level one for KDF to LG as a sci to have one of each profession. Majority of our fleet has toons on both factions all LG's to play with. Flavor of the day to run Fed or KDF. We were beating Cure on KDF side like no joke. Then the game crashed and we had to restart the ground. Went even faster this time until right at armek the game was taken down for 2 hours for emergency work. WE may not be a KDF all the time fleet but we have atleast 20 active players who can play either side at any time.
The actual lack of KDf content and the devs abuse of the faction itself as well as the statement s from some Devs indicate that they don't want KDF players. They had more then a year to add content, but added only sparingly. Cryptic has shown that they have created a Starfleet Online and never intended to keep up to marketing and promises that there will be a full fledged out 2nd faction.
I notice lots say they want to try a Klingon, but after they have to repeat the same missions over and over most either go play Fed (if the are really a Trek fan) or go play something else entirely.
But, it's probably not worth it to make more Klingon content because there's only (insert low percentage) of players who want to play Klingon....:(
See how that works...? It's like they just don't want Klingon players....
Maybe if they rewarded the few Klingon missions and war zones that are possible.
It is sad that Kllingons get no reward if there are no Feds to kill, even though we are there, we finish the objectives and we do everything that a Fed gets rewarded for but we get no reward.
I can see why Klingons are not played very much or people don't stay on the Klingon side.
KDF content is completely non existant. Its really infuriating. When I was leveling my fed side toons I really didn't understand how bad it really was for the poor, bored, lonely Klingon warriors.
Now I'm about half way up done a kdf toon, but its far worse than I imagined.
Its incredibly boring, slow, and the pvp qeues are so long I forget I'm in them!
Well as for me I have an Eng, Tac, and a Sci LG1's on the klingon side and I'm currently helping 5 of my Fed fleet members work on leveling their KDF alts. The fleet I am in ( Project Navras ) also has a afleet on the KDF side House of Navras. We are currently working on getting most of our 100 + fed members to work on a KDf alt also. So we help that will increase the numbers.
I can only hope that lessons have been learned and that the next faction isn't given the same approach.
I hope that day will never come. If it comes before the KDF has at least decent content STO is dead for me forever. Since the Season 2 debacle I believe no word from the devs, my personal opinion of Mr Stahl is even worse by now.
With only a small portion of the player base playing the Klingon side the Klingon side might not get the content it needs. Sometimes they do that, keep putting the needs of the many before the few and the few just get fewer as a result. SWTOR in November.
That'll be one cold day in hell for me before I hurl myself in with that lot again. Ugh, star wars nerds, blah blah blah dark side this, the force that. I'm a evil sith lord. Ever since my old roomies 2 year all star wars repeat marathon I swore I'd never do anything with that setting again ;P
Thats not even a space game. So gross. Anyway. Cryptic should just sit down and make a bunch of KDF missions, patch 'em in, and fix the bugs we report. They could do it in a week if its anything like making something in the foundry. Just give me something more interesting than the two missions in Pi Canis.
Sad thing about "Klingon numbers" is that it won't go up until there's more content... and the speed at which content is added will be in relation to Klingon numbers...
It is insulting to see that he Devs add more and more Fed stuff and we stay out of again and again.
Well, it seems the Federation has always been the highlight of Star Trek. The other factions show up from time to time. But the Federation is the main focus of Star Trek, in my opinion. Plus from Massively.com it is said that only 18% of the Star Trek population plays KDF. I don't know how accurate that is since I did not read the entire article. But I understand why the Fed side is getting so many updates and the KDF is not getting as much.
I think once Cryptic gets over this content hump that they are dealing with due to the Featured Episodes and the DOFF system the KDF might see more updates coming their way. I saw that more stuff is planned for the KDF based on the engineering report so I am looking forward to it.
For now I will just take my time and enjoy my time leveling my KDF character, which I usually do in any MMO.
Star Trek Online and Champions Online have been called a casual type of game by Cryptic, I think that was when they were still being developed. Meaning that it is to be played at a casual pace instead of trying to blow through the content as fast as possible to get to endgame. I think this is one reason why I have never complained on here about a lack of content since I am taking my time and actually reading the quest dialog. I even repeat certain missions because I loved it so much.
Please note that I am not trying to bash anyone here that is not satisfied with the current state of the game and the lack of content that is being put out. Just saying my opinion and how I view the game.:)
Off Topic: People will do the same thing in Star Wars: The Old Republic as well and there will be complaining of a lack of content. Even Bioware has said not long ago that they do not and will not cater to those type of players. They have spent all this time, energy and money to create a story driven experience and people just blow right through it without taking their time and enjoying it to get to the end and complain that they can't go no further.
But, it's probably not worth it to make more Klingon content because there's only (insert low percentage) of players who want to play Klingon....:(
Thats the same wrong conclusion crytic draws out of this numbers.
For example: I am in a Fed Fleet with 20-30 active members. Lot of them have multible characters. But only 3-5 of them have Klingon alts, even less at LG.
But everytime the topic of Klingon alts comes up in TS the reaction is: "Well playing a Klingon would be nice, but why bother without almost any content", only 2 of them state "I dont care playing Klingon at all", and I guess even those would make a Klingon of the rest of the Fleet spends more time on KDF side.
I for myself play more Fed then KDF although I would rate my BoP over EVERY Fed ship, simply because playing alone and with that little content (including stuff like fitting uniforms) on KDF side is boring.
It is not the players fault = not the low numbers that cause the lack of content, its the lack of content that causes that numbers. And that is Cryptics fault alone.
And still: There is a lot of stuff that could be made available for both to at least slow down the increasment of the gap. Stuff like; said it again and again: Mirrior Universe and Mercenary uniforms, of duty-wear (wich Klingon NPC already use), consoles like the one for the Orberth (just make in possible to purchase the console without the ship from C-Store) ect ect ect.
But also Missions with some slight text changes (especially the missions in Romulan and Cardassian areas) could be addet to KDF side.
And of course the most epic fail EVER stays the Hargh'peng, a fracking KLINGON TORPEDO exclusiely available for feds. Cryptics biggest "f**** you" for whats left of the Klingon playerbase yet.
I think at this point Cryptic would be better off to let the two factions group together for most content rather than keep them as humans and orcs, I mean Feds and KDF...
I have Klingons on my crew, and I wouldn't be opposed to working with one on a common goal. Same goes for Romulans and Ferengi, if either of those ever became a playable faction.
Thats the same wrong conclusion crytic draws out of this numbers.
Um, you took one sarcastic sentence I posted and turned it around.
I'm a devoted Klingon player and I posted that dripping in sarcasum because that seems to be Cryptic's attitude towards the Empire.
Read my entire post again...
But, I totaly agree with you.
If they make it, they will come...
just to be clear this was not supposed to be a "QQ THERE IS NO KLINGONS THREAD" i was just asking about their population as i have been away for a while.
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Depends on what you consider enough. Last time there was any discussion, Dstahl mentioned that 18% of the playerbase has played a Klingon. Take that for what you will.
I've seen a lot of new Klingons lately. I've seen some of the older Klingons leave. In general, the Klingon community is welcoming of anyone that wants to try the faction out. Most Klingon players would like to see more.
That said, if you are finding the levelling aspect to tedious and dull, don't torture yourself. Only play in a way that you find fun. It is a game after all.
Alpha strike
Enough... to party.
But, it's probably not worth it to make more Klingon content because there's only (insert low percentage) of players who want to play Klingon....:(
See how that works...? It's like they just don't want Klingon players....
Personally, I kind of find that number (as well as the previous '12% #) a little off. 18% have played is not the same as 'are currently playing as main characters.' I have to have 2 of my nearest dearest friends in the game switch from their Fed toons to get a Ground PvP (FvK, Lt Gen/VA) to pop any given day of the week-or else it just doesn't happen.
I've seen a lot of new Klinks too-all lower levels. I've seen a LOT of KDF-as-mains-players leave. I myself had to take a 6month hiatus, when I came back, my fleet had left the game there's significantly fewer Lt Gen's than there were 6 months ago. Most? EVERY KDF player would LOVE to see more Klinks. Join the party! we has Orion wemenz
SPOILER ALERT they're all dudes IRL :mad:
Maybe if they rewarded the few Klingon missions and war zones that are possible.
It is sad that Kllingons get no reward if there are no Feds to kill, even though we are there, we finish the objectives and we do everything that a Fed gets rewarded for but we get no reward.
I can see why Klingons are not played very much or people don't stay on the Klingon side.
I can only hope that lessons have been learned and that the next faction isn't given the same approach.
KDF content is completely non existant. Its really infuriating. When I was leveling my fed side toons I really didn't understand how bad it really was for the poor, bored, lonely Klingon warriors.
Now I'm about half way up done a kdf toon, but its far worse than I imagined.
Its incredibly boring, slow, and the pvp qeues are so long I forget I'm in them!
I hope that day will never come. If it comes before the KDF has at least decent content STO is dead for me forever. Since the Season 2 debacle I believe no word from the devs, my personal opinion of Mr Stahl is even worse by now.
That'll be one cold day in hell for me before I hurl myself in with that lot again. Ugh, star wars nerds, blah blah blah dark side this, the force that. I'm a evil sith lord. Ever since my old roomies 2 year all star wars repeat marathon I swore I'd never do anything with that setting again ;P
Thats not even a space game. So gross. Anyway. Cryptic should just sit down and make a bunch of KDF missions, patch 'em in, and fix the bugs we report. They could do it in a week if its anything like making something in the foundry. Just give me something more interesting than the two missions in Pi Canis.
More klingons = more reason to add stuff...
More stuff = more reasons to play klingon...
If there's anyone left to buy them....muhahahaha oh wait.
Well, it seems the Federation has always been the highlight of Star Trek. The other factions show up from time to time. But the Federation is the main focus of Star Trek, in my opinion. Plus from Massively.com it is said that only 18% of the Star Trek population plays KDF. I don't know how accurate that is since I did not read the entire article. But I understand why the Fed side is getting so many updates and the KDF is not getting as much.
I think once Cryptic gets over this content hump that they are dealing with due to the Featured Episodes and the DOFF system the KDF might see more updates coming their way. I saw that more stuff is planned for the KDF based on the engineering report so I am looking forward to it.
For now I will just take my time and enjoy my time leveling my KDF character, which I usually do in any MMO.
Star Trek Online and Champions Online have been called a casual type of game by Cryptic, I think that was when they were still being developed. Meaning that it is to be played at a casual pace instead of trying to blow through the content as fast as possible to get to endgame. I think this is one reason why I have never complained on here about a lack of content since I am taking my time and actually reading the quest dialog. I even repeat certain missions because I loved it so much.
Please note that I am not trying to bash anyone here that is not satisfied with the current state of the game and the lack of content that is being put out. Just saying my opinion and how I view the game.:)
Off Topic: People will do the same thing in Star Wars: The Old Republic as well and there will be complaining of a lack of content. Even Bioware has said not long ago that they do not and will not cater to those type of players. They have spent all this time, energy and money to create a story driven experience and people just blow right through it without taking their time and enjoying it to get to the end and complain that they can't go no further.
There was few we got finally.
Thats the same wrong conclusion crytic draws out of this numbers.
For example: I am in a Fed Fleet with 20-30 active members. Lot of them have multible characters. But only 3-5 of them have Klingon alts, even less at LG.
But everytime the topic of Klingon alts comes up in TS the reaction is: "Well playing a Klingon would be nice, but why bother without almost any content", only 2 of them state "I dont care playing Klingon at all", and I guess even those would make a Klingon of the rest of the Fleet spends more time on KDF side.
I for myself play more Fed then KDF although I would rate my BoP over EVERY Fed ship, simply because playing alone and with that little content (including stuff like fitting uniforms) on KDF side is boring.
It is not the players fault = not the low numbers that cause the lack of content, its the lack of content that causes that numbers. And that is Cryptics fault alone.
And still: There is a lot of stuff that could be made available for both to at least slow down the increasment of the gap. Stuff like; said it again and again: Mirrior Universe and Mercenary uniforms, of duty-wear (wich Klingon NPC already use), consoles like the one for the Orberth (just make in possible to purchase the console without the ship from C-Store) ect ect ect.
But also Missions with some slight text changes (especially the missions in Romulan and Cardassian areas) could be addet to KDF side.
And of course the most epic fail EVER stays the Hargh'peng, a fracking KLINGON TORPEDO exclusiely available for feds. Cryptics biggest "f**** you" for whats left of the Klingon playerbase yet.
Just slowly and and when i want a break from my Fed main though, as STO is all about the federation IMO:D
Which isn't a good thing. It shows the Dev team has missed the mark.
I have Klingons on my crew, and I wouldn't be opposed to working with one on a common goal. Same goes for Romulans and Ferengi, if either of those ever became a playable faction.
Um, you took one sarcastic sentence I posted and turned it around.
I'm a devoted Klingon player and I posted that dripping in sarcasum because that seems to be Cryptic's attitude towards the Empire.
Read my entire post again...
But, I totaly agree with you.
If they make it, they will come...