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Hull Repair platforms are absolutely worthless.
Either
A. Get rid of this worthless ability so that Varanus captains don't need to lose a valuable engineering console for it.
or
B. Make it a universal console (eg. MVAM) so anyone with half a brain can elect not to use it.
or
C. Make the ability actually useful. Drastically higher repair rate and not sharing a cool-down with mine weapons would a good place to start.
Better yet, do B + C.
Intrepid is the best science ship in the game (best turn rate, best boff layout, easily the best ability in the game), and ablative still desperately needs a nerf (the previous "nerf" actually made it stronger!) yet on the Klingon side we have a poor man's DSSV -- 1 less engineering slot with absolutely nothing to show for it. At the very least just give us a non-gimped DSSV clone please!
Either
A. Get rid of this worthless ability so that Varanus captains don't need to lose a valuable engineering console for it.
or
B. Make it a universal console (eg. MVAM) so anyone with half a brain can elect not to use it.
or
C. Make the ability actually useful. Drastically higher repair rate and not sharing a cool-down with mine weapons would a good place to start.
Better yet, do B + C.
Intrepid is the best science ship in the game (best turn rate, best boff layout, easily the best ability in the game), and ablative still desperately needs a nerf (the previous "nerf" actually made it stronger!) yet on the Klingon side we have a poor man's DSSV -- 1 less engineering slot with absolutely nothing to show for it. At the very least just give us a non-gimped DSSV clone please!
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"But, Klingons have BoPs!"
News flash: MVAM is a better escort than the BoP. Intrepid is a better sci ship than the BoP. About the only advantage KDF has left are the carriers.... but those always tend to do better against pugs than they do organized teams (in fact, the fighter spam is probably too powerful and definitely too annoying used when against pugs, hence why a lot of players who aren't good PvPers are always complaining about it)
The biggest issue with special abilities is that there are only two that are worth losing a console over: MVAM mode (especially since you can chose which slot to lose), and Ablative. Of all the special abilities though, none are as completely worthless as hull repair drones.
Oh and Tachyon grid is even more worthless than Hull repair drones. hence i said, Make special abiltieis console, and give console slots to some ship instead, to make them more worthwhile.
Beside, im not arguing whats OP and whats not (i leave that to whiners). Im just saying klingons shouldnt get a full fledged science ship like intrepid and feds should not have BoP or carriers.
I was just saying, that the special ability to console conversion could be made for all ships. So basically I'm agreeing with you Jorf. I already said the same about the Noobula special ability months ago.
But besides those two points, yes, tachyon grid is another ability I would not want to lose a console slot to. One difference between it and the Varanus is that there is no other ship with the same specs as the Nebula but without the wasted console. With the Varanus there is, it's called the DSSV. At least with the nebula you still have a ton of HP and a Lt universal station that is unique to you. Another thing that makes the Varanus situation especially vexing is that although you can switch to an Intrepid, Klingon's do not have that luxury. We have one under-performing science ship that we're stuck with.
Let's not get hung up on the small things though, I'll agree with you that special ship abilities should all be console based like the MVAM, although I think the Varanus is the ship with the most urgent need for it.
While the repair drones have their (even questioned effect) in pve and all pvp regardless of captain career.
We can argue whats worse, but i would take the repair drones over the tachyon grid any day. But yes we can agree that all specials should be turned to consoles, and their ships compensated with extra console slot.
Oh and while we are at it, i will gladly swap my cloak on dreadnought for tactical console slot and cloak as tactical console
Yeah, but we got a sci ship anyways, least the devs could do is make it not suck
Ye thats probably true. I just dread giving klingons intrepid clone, because feds would want carrier. And i trully hate npcs in combat. Not because they are powerful or OP, but because they clutter screen, make it shake, are noisy and make me headaches.
And if you want to change the ability to be better, for starters, please stop it with all those damn pets.
Let us drop one healing platform, and anyone within a certain range of it gets some kind of buff. Maybe something like Dampening Field and maybe one Hazard Emitters to the most damaged target every minute or so. give the platform some shields and hull to make it last a while, and then we might be done.
as a whole faction the kdf rely on a bop through most tiers of the ships for a healer which is the only thing that dilutes what klingons are, who ever heard of a klingon ship being the healer, orions maybe, nausicans at a push, letheans possibly but gorn would defo roll up an throw the heals out yet its assumed that a klingon crew is gonna sit back and not go after the honor.
so what do we end up with, klingon attack ships with the main ship that is known as the wolf of the pack being a healer, a nausicaan siege engine which is top level and quite usless. an orion maurader which is by far one of the best ships in the game and a gorn sci ship that is lack luster at best when you roll it up against the vo'cho carrier which does have the target sub systems and then 2 hangers to utilise.
so ask for anything on the kdf aslong as it does not involve diversity within the fleet of ships, do not ask for a ship in the klingon fleet that you couldnt pin into the original series of startrek or deepspace nine because we all know that klingons one day racked up with this fleet of ships and never once made a technological jump or had some of there faction mates actually contribute technology to create new ships or that when worf came over he didnt divuldge a shed load of stuff on how fed ships worked and how that tech could be used. not to mention that the klingons themslevs have never been shy on stealing tech and that you know for a fact that if a house got hold of some tech they wouldnt jump at the chance to create a new type of ship that kicked the *** of starfleet.
KDF have the cahonas to get into BOP and DPS ships and do spike damage.
Sci ships can't
the reason why feds always lose is because they have a god complex, they are spoon fed on pve missions that make them feel stronger then they actualy are.
kdf are spawned in the fires of repetative dse's that you burn out as fast as you can and in pvp. kdf have no option but tobe hard as nails as most the time they level alone with no one to watch there backs.
it has nothing todo with the ships they use it has all todo with the mentality of the player by there faction.
Edit, ps just for your knowledge i pvp in a sci ship on the kdf side and in no way am i weak, i do the borg dse's with feds and get told all the time that i saved them or good fighter, do not underestimate the power of a sci ship, they are the only ships who can strip a ship of its power, disable its engines, knock shields out and never have to use a boff todo it. used right a sci ship is the biggest preditor in the stars.
Fed side is full of JTK, KDF follow mob mentality. I can't believe even til this day that a lot of fed players ignor team request or forgo them all together. The sad thing is it is starting to polute the Red side.
That could be cool.
Make it a console, so at least we don't have to use it in it's current form.
Sorry, but no
There's a reason 5 intrepid / sci captain setups are deadly in arena pvp.
I've been in a cap and hold the other day with nearly all sci vessels against a mixed kling pug. We killed them over and over and over. They had about 10 kills total while our kill numbers were in the hundreds.