T-3 Daka (Mover) Class VI Assault ship
T-5 Mas to Gal (Throne Seeker) Class VII Assault Ship
T-12 Na Raden (Carrier of Doom) Class IX Assault Ship
Battleships
L-13 Kel Rianda (Dangerous Fat Man) Class IX XI Battleship
L-24 Komo Val (Ever Victorious) Class XIII Battleship
D-6 Dupat class battlecruiser
D-6 Raxor class battlecruiser
D-7 Klolode class battlecruiser
D-8 Ktinga class battlecruiser
Transports & Auxillary
Troop Transport Pods
N-6 Morast class transport
Monitors
K-30 Knel (Luckless) Class IV Monitor
K-32 Valkon (Strong Victor) Class IV Monitor
Cruisers
G-2 police cruiser
G-4 police cruiser
D-5 Hakhyl class war cruiser
D-8C Batleth class Command Cruiser
D-9 zGal (Seeker) Class VII Cruiser
D-10 Riskadh Class VIII - X Heavy cruiser
D-20 Hegh vo' quv (Death Rite) Class VII Cruiser
D-23 zGavva (Stronger Bird) Class VII Cruiser
Destroyers
Q-4 Lecthu class destroyer
Ktorr class destroyer
D-2 vkar zadan (Stingtongue) Class VI Destroyer
D-9 Ktermeny class heavy destroyer
D-11 dath dlan (One Wing) Class VI VII Destroyer
D-14 (Stinger) Class VI Destroyer
D-18 Laraatan (Gull) Class VII IX Destroyer
Frigates
L-6 thlar (Defender) Class VIII IX Frigate
Escorts
K-23 Talat khexesta (Little Killer) Class VI VII Escort
Transports & Auxillary
Klingon N-7 Tormin class transport
G-3 Bake Re (Pregnant) Class VII VIII Cargo Freighter
G-5 Qexa (Tugboat) Class VIII Cargo Transport
W-2 Koreba Class II Warp Shuttle
K-24 Kom kades (Winner) Class VII Escort
K-27 Mortum Hesta (Grim reaper) Class VI Escort
Frigates
L-9 Sivista (Saber) Class X Frigate
L-42 zgavasta (Greater Bird) Class IX X Frigate
Gunboats
K-4 klxenova (Enforcer) Class II Gunboat
K-6 Larhal (Administrator) Class II IV Gunboat
Scouts
K-14 Tasesta (Pathmaker) Class IV Scout
K-15 Irexa (Unseen Creeper) Class IV V Scout
K-22 DGavama (Bird of Prey) Class V Scout
Transports & Auxillary
S-4 Knall (Mender) Class VI Repair Tender
S-5 Eakin Knall (Healer) Class IV Repair Tender
S-8 Hban Pav (Morph) Class VI Mobile Repair Facility
Z-4 Zha MortaS (Deathgame) Defense Outpost
T-8 Class VI Frontier Area Tropp Carrier
W-4 Kas Maal (Speedstar) Class III Warp Shuttle
G-3 Plen Zha (Traders Game) Class IV Freighter
G-6 Besz Rate (Catapult) Class VIII Cargo Transport
I'm sorry but the centuries don't make much sense.
The F-5 is an SFB ship and is a contemporary of the D-6/7 line from the 23rd century.
The D-7 is a 23rd century ship, not 21st.
Most of the ships listed from the 21st century, like the D-7 are from the 23rd century.
The reason for the odd date listings is the fact that the old "Space Flight Chonology" as well as the old FASA material used an entirely different stardate measuring system.
They used Stardate 0 as January 1st 2000.
So all later dates have to be adjusted accordingly.
For example the Constitution is given with an in service date of Stardate 1/8801, which would be 2188 according to the Spaceflight chronology calender (the "1" before the slash giving the century) while according to Roddenberry the 1701 Enterprise is from the 2240's.
The old "Final Frontier" novel by Diane Carey also uses the old "Space Flight Chronology" calender.
Also the ships are mostly from two different universes, the ones from FASA and from SFB which both use totally different timelines and calenders.
For example the SFB universe does not actually state when their year 0 is compared to our calender, only that year 0 is the first contatct between the humans and the Vulcans.
However as a good point of reference we can use the Organia incident (TOS:"Errand of Mercy") which according to the "Prime Directive" RPG was in the year 156 of the SFB tiemline, or 2267 according to the current Star Trek calender.
From there service dates can be calculated with some measure of accuracy.
*EDIT:
Also the proper term for the Klingon military is and always has been "Klingon Defense Force" or "KDF", not "Klingon Imperial Navy", IKN or whatever /*
I'm sorry but the centuries don't make much sense.
The F-5 is an SFB ship and is a contemporary of the D-6/7 line from the 23rd century.
The D-7 is a 23rd century ship, not 21st.
Most of the ships listed from the 21st century, like the D-7 are from the 23rd century.
The reason for the odd date listings is the fact that the old "Space Flight Chonology" as well as the old FASA material used an entirely different stardate measuring system.
They used Stardate 0 as January 1st 2000.
So all later dates have to be adjusted accordingly.
For example the Constitution is given with an in service date of Stardate 1/8801, which would be 2188 according to the Spaceflight chronology calender (the "1" before the slash giving the century) while according to Roddenberry the 1701 Enterprise is from the 2240's.
The old "Final Frontier" novel by Diane Carey also uses the old "Space Flight Chronology" calender.
Also the ships are mostly from two different universes, the ones from FASA and from SFB which both use totally different timelines and calenders.
For example the SFB universe does not actually state when their year 0 is compared to our calender, only that year 0 is the first contatct between the humans and the Vulcans.
However as a good point of reference we can use the Organia incident (TOS:"Errand of Mercy") which according to the "Prime Directive" RPG was in the year 156 of the SFB tiemline, or 2267 according to the current Star Trek calender.
From there service dates can be calculated with some measure of accuracy.
*EDIT:
Also the proper term for the Klingon military is and always has been "Klingon Defense Force" or "KDF", not "Klingon Imperial Navy", IKN or whatever /*
I used the material from a variety of Mandel, FASA, Websites etc. I Agree the dates and timelines are seriously inconflict as are some of the classifications. I merely repoduced them as listed to answer WishBone's request for material.
Also the proper term for the Klingon military is and always has been "Klingon Defense Force" or "KDF", not "Klingon Imperial Navy", IKN or whatever /*
The Imperial Klingon Navy has ALWAYS existed. The Klingon Defense Force (tlhIngan Hubbeq), comprises the Imperial Navy (tlhIngan logh yo'), Klingon Security (tlhIngan Hung), Klingon Marines (tlhIngan mangghom), and the Klingon Intelligence (tlhIngan valna'beq)
I used the material from a variety of Mandel, FASA, Websites etc. I Agree the dates and timelines are seriously inconflict as are some of the classifications. I merely repoduced them as listed to answer WishBone's request for material. I won't make that mistake again.
The Imperial Klingon Navy has ALWAYS existed. The Klingon Defense Force (tlhIngan Hubbeq), comprises the Imperial Navy (tlhIngan logh yo'), Klingon Security (tlhIngan Hung), Klingon Marines (tlhIngan mangghom), and the Klingon Intelligence (tlhIngan valna'beq)
Umm, where outside FASA?
Kurn in TNG and Martok in DS9 called it "Klingon Defense Force", never anything else.
We've also seen more indication that Klingon military is a single unified force rather than several different ones like FASA indicates, where calling a marine an "Admiral" was for example considered an insult due to a rivalry between the different branches that don't seem to exist outside the old RPG materials.
Also the recent novels use the term "Imperial Intelligence", not "Klingon Intelligence".
These include "The Art fo the Impossible" covering the Betraka Nebula Incident or 2328-2346 as well as the Gorkon Novels which cover the time after Season 7 of DS9.
So am I.
Otherwise I'd probably not have this stuff in the back of my head.:p
*EDIT: I just mentally seperate stuff from the shows, stuff from FASA, stuff from ADB and the recent stuff from Pocket books because they are all tiny pockets of their own soft canon, something that made my head spin for a while when I started to read about all those conflicting timelones and histories.*
Umm, where outside FASA?
Kurn in TNG and Martok in DS9 called it "Klingon Defense Force", never anything else.
We've also seen more indication that Klingon military is a single unified force rather than several different ones like FASA indicates, where calling a marine an "Admiral" was for example considered an insult due to a rivalry between the different branches that don't seem to exist outside the old RPG materials.
Also the recent novels use the term "Imperial Intelligence", not "Klingon Intelligence".
These include "The Art fo the Impossible" covering the Betraka Nebula Incident or 2328-2346 as well as the Gorkon Novels which cover the time after Season 7 of DS9.
Again no offense intended.
On this I must agree with you - house loyalies also cause serious confusion with the ship classifications.
Klingon society was divided along four lines:
The Ha'Dlbah, the lowest rank of the social order were primarily those conquered by the Klingons as "servitor" races.
The vumwl', were the administrators, weapon-smiths, etc. need for the functioning of the state.
The Suvwl', were seen as those intended to walk the warriors path.
The last group of the social order, was the chuQun, the nobility and people regarded as the only true members of the House.
Whereas the Great Houses ("Tuq") were in control of much the Empire's wealth and military influence they were able to direct their own shipbuilding contracts and lend these to the Empire during times of war. The B-10 Karharmer is the only example which comes to mind. Similarly smaller houses squabbled amongst themselves looking for opportunities to expand their holdings.
Here we can once again see how terminology changes from one piece of soft-canon to another:
the lowest rank in Klingon society is called Jeghpu'wI' in the recent novels, which means "conquered people".
I am curious where the odd term for the B-10 comes from ("Karharmer").
Because even the official ADB material does not actually use it.
There the 4 B-10s are called "Invincible", Insatiable", "Inviolable" and "Invulnerable".
"Invincible" was the first and also the class name.
Did a fan translate it into tlhIngan Hol?
Here we can once again see how terminology changes from one piece of soft-canon to another:
the lowest rank in Klingon society is called Jeghpu'wI' in the recent novels, which means "conquered people".
I am curious where the odd term for the B-10 comes from ("Karharmer").
Because even the official ADB material does not actually use it.
There the 4 B-10s are called "Invincible", Insatiable", "Inviolable" and "Invulnerable".
"Invincible" was the first and also the class name.
Did a fan translate it into tlhIngan Hol?
It appears from Geoffery Mandel - Federation Spaceflight Chronology, The Klingon Empire.
Comments
Dreadnoughts
Kherr class C-series dreadnoughts (C-8/9)
Battleships
B-1 Julkar class battleship
B-10 battleship
Battlecruisers
D-6 Dupat class battlecruiser
D-6 Raxor class battlecruiser
D-7 Klolode class battlecruiser
D-8 Ktinga class battlecruiser
Transports & Auxillary
Troop Transport Pods
N-6 Morast class transport
Monitors
K-30 Knel (Luckless) Class IV Monitor
K-32 Valkon (Strong Victor) Class IV Monitor
Cruisers
G-2 police cruiser
G-4 police cruiser
D-5 Hakhyl class war cruiser
D-8C Batleth class Command Cruiser
D-9 zGal (Seeker) Class VII Cruiser
D-10 Riskadh Class VIII - X Heavy cruiser
D-20 Hegh vo' quv (Death Rite) Class VII Cruiser
D-23 zGavva (Stronger Bird) Class VII Cruiser
Destroyers
Q-4 Lecthu class destroyer
Ktorr class destroyer
D-2 vkar zadan (Stingtongue) Class VI Destroyer
D-9 Ktermeny class heavy destroyer
D-11 dath dlan (One Wing) Class VI VII Destroyer
D-14 (Stinger) Class VI Destroyer
D-18 Laraatan (Gull) Class VII IX Destroyer
Frigates
L-6 thlar (Defender) Class VIII IX Frigate
Escorts
K-23 Talat khexesta (Little Killer) Class VI VII Escort
Transports & Auxillary
Klingon N-7 Tormin class transport
G-3 Bake Re (Pregnant) Class VII VIII Cargo Freighter
G-5 Qexa (Tugboat) Class VIII Cargo Transport
W-2 Koreba Class II Warp Shuttle
Scouts
C-4 Shotar class scout
Bird of Prey
Brel class Bird of Prey
D-12 Kvort class
Gunboats
K-3 Kalath Class II Gunboat
Fighters
Z-series (Zoran) fighters
Battleships
L-20 Keth Ke Se Fast Battleship
Dreadnought
NeghVar
Monitors
K-32 Valkon (Stronger Victor) Class IV Monior
Destroyers
D-16 klsarza (Swidtwind) Class VI Destroyer
Escorts
K-24 Kom kades (Winner) Class VII Escort
K-27 Mortum Hesta (Grim reaper) Class VI Escort
Frigates
L-9 Sivista (Saber) Class X Frigate
L-42 zgavasta (Greater Bird) Class IX X Frigate
Gunboats
K-4 klxenova (Enforcer) Class II Gunboat
K-6 Larhal (Administrator) Class II IV Gunboat
Scouts
K-14 Tasesta (Pathmaker) Class IV Scout
K-15 Irexa (Unseen Creeper) Class IV V Scout
K-22 DGavama (Bird of Prey) Class V Scout
Transports & Auxillary
S-4 Knall (Mender) Class VI Repair Tender
S-5 Eakin Knall (Healer) Class IV Repair Tender
S-8 Hban Pav (Morph) Class VI Mobile Repair Facility
Z-4 Zha MortaS (Deathgame) Defense Outpost
T-8 Class VI Frontier Area Tropp Carrier
W-4 Kas Maal (Speedstar) Class III Warp Shuttle
G-3 Plen Zha (Traders Game) Class IV Freighter
G-6 Besz Rate (Catapult) Class VIII Cargo Transport
Battleships
KDF-2 KMirra (Allliance) class Battleship
NeghVar class Battleship
GeljoQ class Battleship
Voodieh class Battleship
Geltar class Battleship
Battlecruisers
VorCha Class XIV XV Battlecruiser
Denat-class Battlecruiser
KTinga-class Battlecruiser
Heavy Cruisers
VodleQ-class Heavy Cruiser
Cruisers
Goralis-class Incursion Cruiser
Jenthar-class Assault Cruiser
Pachag-class Assault Cruiser
Destroyers
Sompek-class Heavy Destroyer
TroQa-class Destroyer
Frigates
BaHreth-class Frigate
Kelvar-class Heavy Frigate
Qacheng-class Strike Frigate
Escorts
Qljtagh-class Heavy Escort
Fast Attack Ship
Brakt-class Fast Attack Ship
Heavy Warships
Kmpec-class Heavy Warship
Torath-class Heavy Warship
Vorcha-class Heavy Warship
Warships
Felgra-class Warship
KVort-class Warship
Light Warships
Brel-class Light Warship
Surveyor
Kleg-Ta Class Surveyor
Scouts
Kelirax-class Scout
Fighters
SuvtIS-class Fighter
System Patrol Craft
Chutduj-class System Patrol Ship
Transports & Auxillary
Dennlar-class Armoured Transport
Neglorn-class Armoured Courier
Toron-class Warp Shuttle
Hucta-class Merchant Vessel
The F-5 is an SFB ship and is a contemporary of the D-6/7 line from the 23rd century.
The D-7 is a 23rd century ship, not 21st.
Most of the ships listed from the 21st century, like the D-7 are from the 23rd century.
The reason for the odd date listings is the fact that the old "Space Flight Chonology" as well as the old FASA material used an entirely different stardate measuring system.
They used Stardate 0 as January 1st 2000.
So all later dates have to be adjusted accordingly.
For example the Constitution is given with an in service date of Stardate 1/8801, which would be 2188 according to the Spaceflight chronology calender (the "1" before the slash giving the century) while according to Roddenberry the 1701 Enterprise is from the 2240's.
The old "Final Frontier" novel by Diane Carey also uses the old "Space Flight Chronology" calender.
Also the ships are mostly from two different universes, the ones from FASA and from SFB which both use totally different timelines and calenders.
For example the SFB universe does not actually state when their year 0 is compared to our calender, only that year 0 is the first contatct between the humans and the Vulcans.
However as a good point of reference we can use the Organia incident (TOS:"Errand of Mercy") which according to the "Prime Directive" RPG was in the year 156 of the SFB tiemline, or 2267 according to the current Star Trek calender.
From there service dates can be calculated with some measure of accuracy.
*EDIT:
Also the proper term for the Klingon military is and always has been "Klingon Defense Force" or "KDF", not "Klingon Imperial Navy", IKN or whatever /*
Yes, I could have but I wanted to create content that was local.
I used the material from a variety of Mandel, FASA, Websites etc. I Agree the dates and timelines are seriously inconflict as are some of the classifications. I merely repoduced them as listed to answer WishBone's request for material.
The Imperial Klingon Navy has ALWAYS existed. The Klingon Defense Force (tlhIngan Hubbeq), comprises the Imperial Navy (tlhIngan logh yo'), Klingon Security (tlhIngan Hung), Klingon Marines (tlhIngan mangghom), and the Klingon Intelligence (tlhIngan valna'beq)
No offense was intended my friend.
Sorry - :0 can't you see I'm a trekkie geek!
Umm, where outside FASA?
Kurn in TNG and Martok in DS9 called it "Klingon Defense Force", never anything else.
We've also seen more indication that Klingon military is a single unified force rather than several different ones like FASA indicates, where calling a marine an "Admiral" was for example considered an insult due to a rivalry between the different branches that don't seem to exist outside the old RPG materials.
Also the recent novels use the term "Imperial Intelligence", not "Klingon Intelligence".
These include "The Art fo the Impossible" covering the Betraka Nebula Incident or 2328-2346 as well as the Gorkon Novels which cover the time after Season 7 of DS9.
Again no offense intended.
So am I.
Otherwise I'd probably not have this stuff in the back of my head.:p
*EDIT: I just mentally seperate stuff from the shows, stuff from FASA, stuff from ADB and the recent stuff from Pocket books because they are all tiny pockets of their own soft canon, something that made my head spin for a while when I started to read about all those conflicting timelones and histories.*
On this I must agree with you - house loyalies also cause serious confusion with the ship classifications.
Klingon society was divided along four lines:
The Ha'Dlbah, the lowest rank of the social order were primarily those conquered by the Klingons as "servitor" races.
The vumwl', were the administrators, weapon-smiths, etc. need for the functioning of the state.
The Suvwl', were seen as those intended to walk the warriors path.
The last group of the social order, was the chuQun, the nobility and people regarded as the only true members of the House.
Whereas the Great Houses ("Tuq") were in control of much the Empire's wealth and military influence they were able to direct their own shipbuilding contracts and lend these to the Empire during times of war. The B-10 Karharmer is the only example which comes to mind. Similarly smaller houses squabbled amongst themselves looking for opportunities to expand their holdings.
the lowest rank in Klingon society is called Jeghpu'wI' in the recent novels, which means "conquered people".
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Jeghpu%27wI%27
I am curious where the odd term for the B-10 comes from ("Karharmer").
Because even the official ADB material does not actually use it.
There the 4 B-10s are called "Invincible", Insatiable", "Inviolable" and "Invulnerable".
"Invincible" was the first and also the class name.
Did a fan translate it into tlhIngan Hol?
It appears from Geoffery Mandel - Federation Spaceflight Chronology, The Klingon Empire.