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The New Enterprise...a Response...

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited June 2011 in Klingon Discussion
Well...

One of the main threads drawing attention in another forum is what the characteristics of the new Enterprise should be.

Wow. Everything from introducing it as the first Tier 6, to increasing the base power management levels, to having the Commander slot on the ship being Universal....

Maybe even making it a Battleship -- sort of a unique Federation-only concept I think.

In any case, since the Feds are all in a lather and entertaining some pretty high fantasy in regards to a supership...I thought, why not develop our own thread, just for fun?

Here is an idea -- rennovate the Vo'Qov carrier -- something like this:

1. Increase the turn rate to that of a Neghvar.
2. Make it so that the hangar bays can be replaced with weapons, essentially turning the vessel into a very powerful, large cruiser -- for instance, you could have one hangar and seven weapons, etc.
3. Create a new class of "heavy weapons" that can only be mounted on Carriers -- heavy beam weapons, heavy torpedos - that no other class of ship can mount because they are too big. These heavy weapons have increased range and damage.
4. Increase the base power allocation by 50% (from 200 base to 300).
5. increase the fighter cap back to 12 fighters per bay (cap of 24).

I know it is fantasy...but hey -- we can have our fun too, right?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    As far as I know, isn't the Enterprise F an unique ship that will not be playable?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    red_shirt_ wrote: »
    As far as I know, isn't the Enterprise F an unique ship that will not be playable?

    Uhm...nope....playable,with saucer separation and a shuttle..... and it's going to be a mission reward.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    red_shirt_ wrote: »
    As far as I know, isn't the Enterprise F an unique ship that will not be playable?

    The Ent-F itself will not be playable. But the CLASS will be.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I doubt it well stand up to a bird of prey like any other fed cruiser they still go boom in the end. Then maybe we can get a true battleship for the klingons then ,
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I think the "Enterprise-F" ship will end up being that much wanted the Federation counter to the Vo'Quv.

    Not saying it's going to be a Fed Carrier, but it's sure likely to give Klingons headaches as carriers do for Feds.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    ZTempest wrote:

    Here is an idea -- rennovate the Vo'Qov carrier -- something like this:

    1. Increase the turn rate to that of a Neghvar.
    2. Make it so that the hangar bays can be replaced with weapons, essentially turning the vessel into a very powerful, large cruiser -- for instance, you could have one hangar and seven weapons, etc.
    3. Create a new class of "heavy weapons" that can only be mounted on Carriers -- heavy beam weapons, heavy torpedos - that no other class of ship can mount because they are too big. These heavy weapons have increased range and damage.
    4. Increase the base power allocation by 50% (from 200 base to 300).
    5. increase the fighter cap back to 12 fighters per bay (cap of 24).

    I know it is fantasy...but hey -- we can have our fun too, right?

    Two words, brother - cup holders.

    Can't be spilling the blood wine.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Why not an updated Neg'Var? more weapons, hull, turn rate, speed, and that Ion Cannon from Armada 2.

    Or a "Design the next IKS Sword of Kahless Contest" since if I remember right that was the name of the KDF Flagship under Martok.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Or a "Design the next IKS Sword of Kahless Contest" since if I remember right that was the name of the KDF Flagship under Martok.

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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Why not an updated Neg'Var? more weapons, hull, turn rate, speed, and that Ion Cannon from Armada 2.

    Or a "Design the next IKS Sword of Kahless Contest" since if I remember right that was the name of the KDF Flagship under Martok.

    Oh no, please not.
    I'd rather see them to make actual Klingon ships like the K'Vort or a t5 K'tinga then just ANOTHER ugly Fan-design.
    Even the usual Klingon-fan designs turn out to look much more awfull then the (mostly already prety ugly) Federation ones, and seeing that what won the Fed-contest instead of the at least bearable designs... nonono. No Klingon contest like that......
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Oh no, please not.
    I'd rather see them to make actual Klingon ships like the K'Vort or a t5 K'tinga then just ANOTHER ugly Fan-design.
    Even the usual Klingon-fan designs turn out to look much more awfull then the (mostly already prety ugly) Federation ones, and seeing that what won the Fed-contest instead of the at least bearable designs... nonono. No Klingon contest like that......

    I'm all for a KDF ship that is fan designed and is the KDF equivalent of the Enterprise F.

    And really, after they made the Kar'Fi, I think we're well past the stage of worrying about what it will look like.

    ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    i have quite a few cool ideas for carriers that is fair.

    a big ship that looks like the Chariot. It has 3 fighter slots but they can only have 2 out (instead of 3) and can use the fighters from the tac carrier and the voquv.
    Also the recharge should be 2x longer so the max ships will be out at the same time, but this ship gets 3 out right away instead of 2.

    But the feds do need another enterprise so forget it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Oh no, please not.
    I'd rather see them to make actual Klingon ships like the K'Vort or a t5 K'tinga then just ANOTHER ugly Fan-design.

    Well with the K'Vort, I'm surprised they havn't added it in yet. Outside of the D4 and D5, there isn't much more cannonical ships left for the Klingons, except the Voodeigh Negh'var Varient.
    Even the usual Klingon-fan designs turn out to look much more awfull then the (mostly already prety ugly) Federation ones, and seeing that what won the Fed-contest instead of the at least bearable designs... nonono. No Klingon contest like that......

    Okay, then tell me what you think about this fanmade Klingon warship.

    (PS. The front has been redone, and has yet to be posted).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Staran wrote: »
    i have quite a few cool ideas for carriers that is fair.

    a big ship that looks like the Chariot. It has 3 fighter slots but they can only have 2 out (instead of 3) and can use the fighters from the tac carrier and the voquv.
    Also the recharge should be 2x longer so the max ships will be out at the same time, but this ship gets 3 out right away instead of 2.

    But the feds do need another enterprise so forget it.

    Feds get more ships cuz we keep blowing them up.:D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    I hope the Enterprise F isn't the first Tier 6 ship. If it is, I hope Cryptic is prepared to release Tier 6 vessels of every class at about the same time. Given what we have heard about raising the level cap and their schedule and plans for releasing new ships, I don't think we'll be seeing Tier 6 any time soon. At least, I hope they aren't foolish enough to release one Tier 6 ship for just one faction.

    I expect the new Enterprise Class vessels will be about as powerful as the Sovereign and Galaxy Refits.

    That said, I'd love to see another alternative for Klingons for the BOP, Raptor, and Carrier class. Whatever the new BOP would be, I hope it would have a more useful skill than the firing torpedoes while cloaked.

    Speaking of cloak, I really wish they'd fix the bug, that isn't 100% a bug.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    MinosOne wrote:
    At least, I hope they aren't foolish enough to release one Tier 6 ship for just one faction.

    My experience with the game's development and overall big picture evolution leads me to believe that they are indeed capable of doing such a thing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    As much as I'd like to see more Klingon ships. I kinda think them making any improvment to the Carrier is unlikely. The Feds already complain about carriers "spamming" fighters...like what else to carriers do but put as many aircraft up as they can? I see it in the Fed chat when I log onto my smooth-head constantly, always the same, complaining about Klingons using carriers in PvP, especially 2 or more. If they would give them the ability to launch even more the protest would light the forums.
    After a year and a half of virtually no ship customization, I'd almost be willing to settle for that.
    It would be great to get some comparable to the "advanced" versions of the Feds, a couple additional upper-end ships would be great, too.
    Hey...I can dream....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    superchum wrote: »
    My experience with the game's development and overall big picture evolution leads me to believe that they are indeed capable of doing such a thing.

    Yes, especially if they promise not to.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    As much as I'd like to see more Klingon ships. I kinda think them making any improvment to the Carrier is unlikely. The Feds already complain about carriers "spamming" fighters...like what else to carriers do but put as many aircraft up as they can? I see it in the Fed chat when I log onto my smooth-head constantly, always the same, complaining about Klingons using carriers in PvP, especially 2 or more. If they would give them the ability to launch even more the protest would light the forums.
    After a year and a half of virtually no ship customization, I'd almost be willing to settle for that.
    It would be great to get some comparable to the "advanced" versions of the Feds, a couple additional upper-end ships would be great, too.
    Hey...I can dream....

    I can promise you one thing. The moment the Feds get their carrier ever single one of these "naysayers" will be the first to grab one.

    Without exception, they will be the same ones screaming to the devs about how carriers have ruined PvP, and are only responsible for spam.

    But, then with an about turn they will defend the need for a Federation carrier. Absolutely no logic, for vulcan sympathizers!
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