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Orion/Gorn treaty against KDF

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edited June 2011 in Klingon Discussion
Hi there i've heard alot about a Gorn resistence against the KDF, I play an Orion Toon myself is there any chance we'll see a Orion/Gorn Alliance to brake out of the KDF to gain there freedem. I think that would add an intereseting spin to the KDF game play over all.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Looks like I need to break out the Painstik and Agony Booth again. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    *Aheghm*

    As Ambassador to the KDF on behalf of the Gorn/Orion Allegiance, I cordially invite you to attend one of our many Sexy Parties held regularly on Qonos. I assure you, Gorn/Orion relations are constantly at the forefront of my thoughts.

    Here are the minutes from a recent meeting.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdcYyKpruMg
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Hey, don't you guys own a human insurance company too?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Hi there i've heard alot about a Gorn resistence against the KDF, I play an Orion Toon myself is there any chance we'll see a Orion/Gorn Alliance to brake out of the KDF to gain there freedem. I think that would add an intereseting spin to the KDF game play over all.

    I could see this being an interesting plot line, but as for a permanent break leading to Orion/Gorn as a third faction, I wouldn't really expect that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    It they do, there will be enough boots, belts, and wallets for everyboy...
    Not to mension a free Green-freindly workforce to make it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Jermbot wrote: »
    I could see this being an interesting plot line, but as for a permanent break leading to Orion/Gorn as a third faction, I wouldn't really expect that.

    I think they could make that work. It'd be a C-Store purchasable Faction. You spend 2k Atari Tokens/Cryptic Points an you unlock your new Gorn/Orion faction.

    It then gives you pretty much the G-O version of the KDF faction pre-Day 45 patch.

    And then you need to purchase a Gorn or Orion ship from the C-Store as well.

    I see this working. And being the blueprint for future "new" factions. Like the Cardassians and the Maquis.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    would on the street is the gorn are about to have their own problems to deal with.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    superchum wrote: »
    I think they could make that work. It'd be a C-Store purchasable Faction. You spend 2k Atari Tokens/Cryptic Points an you unlock your new Gorn/Orion faction.

    It then gives you pretty much the G-O version of the KDF faction pre-Day 45 patch.

    And then you need to purchase a Gorn or Orion ship from the C-Store as well.

    I see this working. And being the blueprint for future "new" factions. Like the Cardassians and the Maquis.

    Not really enough population in the Klingon side of things to split it in two. I like the overall frame of your idea as a way to split into a third faction, but we should find a way to do it with the Federation side of the game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Jermbot wrote: »
    Not really enough population in the Klingon side of things to split it in two. I like the overall frame of your idea as a way to split into a third faction, but we should find a way to do it with the Federation side of the game.

    Maquis it is then!

    ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    superchum wrote: »
    I think they could make that work. It'd be a C-Store purchasable Faction. You spend 2k Atari Tokens/Cryptic Points an you unlock your new Gorn/Orion faction.

    It then gives you pretty much the G-O version of the KDF faction pre-Day 45 patch.

    And then you need to purchase a Gorn or Orion ship from the C-Store as well.

    I see this working. And being the blueprint for future "new" factions. Like the Cardassians and the Maquis.

    Ow. Thinking about that makes my wallet hurt. ;)


    Z
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    superchum wrote: »
    Maquis it is then!

    ;)

    Weren't the Maquis largely destroyed by the Dominion?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    zordar wrote: »
    Ow. Thinking about that makes my wallet hurt. ;)


    Z

    Heh. You are the second person to state that to me today. I'm on a roll!

    @Jermbot: Yeah, but the maquis are still around, in some form or another. The badlands mission with Tom Riker's kid hints as much.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Eh, I don't see this happening, and if it did then the federation would need their own civil war, which wont happen.

    Maybe if they ever add a third faction, you can RP as a member of the Orion or Gorn, and join that faction as a Alien, who happens to be an Orion or Gorn.

    Showing the Empire integrate them in more completely would be a better idea, setting them up as near equal rights, and convert them into Lesser Houses of the Klingon Empire, as opposed to the great houses who have seats on the council, and Klingon houses full of history. There is precedence for other races being in Klingon houses at this point, Dax, and Quark were both in Klingon houses, and maybe, just maybe, you can count Jeremy Aster, but I don't count him, it was something Worf did to make the kid feel good. And members of the Empire don't need to be 100% Klingon, Worfs son is only 3/4 Klingon. For a long time, Klingons weren't even Klingon anymore, but genetically mutated to be partially human/Augment.

    So, more fully integrating in races, could be something they could add to the game, perhaps an optional quest line a non-klingon can take, to join a Klingon house designed for non-Klingons. It would involve honorable choices in the mission, and failure is possible but may have its own rewards that you wouldn't get if you became a member of the house. Repeatable, but not for the full reward, just for the fun of the mission.

    True Klingons get their own mission, with its own rewards, but not the same mission, possibly to further whatever house the Klingon is within. Similar reward structure.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Eh, I don't see this happening, and if it did then the federation would need their own civil war, which wont happen.

    Maybe if they ever add a third faction, you can RP as a member of the Orion or Gorn, and join that faction as a Alien, who happens to be an Orion or Gorn.

    Showing the Empire integrate them in more completely would be a better idea, setting them up as near equal rights, and convert them into Lesser Houses of the Klingon Empire, as opposed to the great houses who have seats on the council, and Klingon houses full of history. There is precedence for other races being in Klingon houses at this point, Dax, and Quark were both in Klingon houses, and maybe, just maybe, you can count Jeremy Aster, but I don't count him, it was something Worf did to make the kid feel good. And members of the Empire don't need to be 100% Klingon, Worfs son is only 3/4 Klingon. For a long time, Klingons weren't even Klingon anymore, but genetically mutated to be partially human/Augment.

    So, more fully integrating in races, could be something they could add to the game, perhaps an optional quest line a non-klingon can take, to join a Klingon house designed for non-Klingons. It would involve honorable choices in the mission, and failure is possible but may have its own rewards that you wouldn't get if you became a member of the house. Repeatable, but not for the full reward, just for the fun of the mission.

    True Klingons get their own mission, with its own rewards, but not the same mission, possibly to further whatever house the Klingon is within. Similar reward structure.

    Neat idea and I dig your crazy optimism. But what you're basically talking about is a second independent mission chain when the KDF doesn't yet have a first one.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I believe i have a possible solution, rather than make them a seperate faction, make them a sub-faction. the orions should have a separate home world, tutorial and even some specific missions. same with the nausicans. Even in the current political state orions and nausicans are not KDF, they are allies of the KDF and as such would have different training, missions and goals. also Species specific ships and gear should be available but only at the species home world and for a unique species currency(orion credits, nausican loot etc) letheans make to small of a portion of the KDF faction both in game and in Cannon to be worth putting in all these things. Aliens as much as i would like to give them full access to it should not gain it, but rather should be given a few new things to give them more leverage in gameplay such as items, new traits...

    the federation should not get this for one reason, the federation is a single entity, not an alliance. if you are vulcan, you are a fed and go to starfleet academy, same with all the federation species.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    I believe i have a possible solution, rather than make them a seperate faction, make them a sub-faction. the orions should have a separate home world, tutorial and even some specific missions. same with the nausicans. Even in the current political state orions and nausicans are not KDF, they are allies of the KDF and as such would have different training, missions and goals. also Species specific ships and gear should be available but only at the species home world and for a unique species currency(orion credits, nausican loot etc) letheans make to small of a portion of the KDF faction both in game and in Cannon to be worth putting in all these things. Aliens as much as i would like to give them full access to it should not gain it, but rather should be given a few new things to give them more leverage in gameplay such as items, new traits...

    the federation should not get this for one reason, the federation is a single entity, not an alliance. if you are vulcan, you are a fed and go to starfleet academy, same with all the federation species.

    My feeling is that this is a nice idea, but would take forever to implement. It would in the idea of Fed players seriously cause them to be the lesser side, and they will of course have none of that....yup....none of that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    My feeling is that this is a nice idea, but would take forever to implement. It would in the idea of Fed players seriously cause them to be the lesser side, and they will of course have none of that....yup....none of that.

    unfortunately you are right, while it would make the KDF a super awesome faction almost on par with the federation in the amount of content, the feds would not be able to wait 6-9 months for without getting some random TOS episode nonsense so the devs could make 10 maps, 8 missions and 10 items for the KDF

    2 homeworlds(like the current Quo'nos)
    2 space orbits for the home worlds
    5 missions for naucicans and 5 for orions
    10 or so unique items

    Hek if the feds cant wait 6-9 months while the KDF gets fully flushed out i think that it might be a problem, flushing out the KDF benefits them too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    unfortunately you are right, while it would make the KDF a super awesome faction almost on par with the federation in the amount of content, the feds would not be able to wait 6-9 months for without getting some random TOS episode nonsense so the devs could make 10 maps, 8 missions and 10 items for the KDF

    2 homeworlds(like the current Quo'nos)
    2 space orbits for the home worlds
    5 missions for naucicans and 5 for orions
    10 or so unique items

    Hek if the feds cant wait 6-9 months while the KDF gets fully flushed out i think that it might be a problem, flushing out the KDF benefits them too.

    Aye, this is not the reason I am against it though...it just does not seem like it would be something that at the present would be in the KDF's best interest...easing of tensions...sure..a little...not all-out combat?...maybe... let's call it detente...lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    superchum wrote: »
    I think they could make that work. It'd be a C-Store purchasable Faction. You spend 2k Atari Tokens/Cryptic Points an you unlock your new Gorn/Orion faction.

    It then gives you pretty much the G-O version of the KDF faction pre-Day 45 patch.

    And then you need to purchase a Gorn or Orion ship from the C-Store as well.

    I see this working. And being the blueprint for future "new" factions. Like the Cardassians and the Maquis.

    Yeah. Great Idea. Hilarious. Lets take our underdeveloped contentless faction was almost no players and spilt them into 2 half factions with even less Content and less players.
    Why not giving every player an own faction?

    And just a note: The Marquis was extinguished with Dominion-efficiency. So if Cryptic doesnt turn that into a Horror MMO and creates a Zombie-faction there wont be any Marquis in this game.
    Eh, I don't see this happening, and if it did then the federation would need their own civil war, which wont happen.

    Well that wouldnt feel like "trek" I think but at last it would be intresting and new.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    would on the street is the gorn are about to have their own problems to deal with.

    To what are you referring? This is the first I've heard of this, and it interests me very much. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    To what are you referring? This is the first I've heard of this, and it interests me very much. :)

    Well DStahl mentionet somewhere that the Gorn homeworld MIGHT get assimilatet....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2011
    Oh, HELL NO. If it comes to that, I hope we can fight to keep that from happening, rather than, "In other news, the Borg assimilated the Gorn homeworld. Noe we're going to take a quick commercial break, but after these messages, we'll be back with a cute story about a three-legged sehlat that saved a baby."

    Time will tell...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited June 2011
    Oh, HELL NO. If it comes to that, I hope we can fight to keep that from happening, rather than, "In other news, the Borg assimilated the Gorn homeworld. Noe we're going to take a quick commercial break, but after these messages, we'll be back with a cute story about a three-legged sehlat that saved a baby."

    Time will tell...

    A three-legged Sehlat?...I think I remember that news story...The sehlat's name was Lucky if I am not mistaken... For it's trouble, I see it was "put to sleep" by the Klingon Defense Force...hahahahahaha.
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